Go Back   Typology Central > The Commune > The SJ Guardhouse

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-12-2008, 05:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senor Member
 
Cimarron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Type: ISTJ
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 760
Cimarron is unique just like everyone else
Default Being given responsibility

A lot of times, I hear that SJs like being given responsibility (not necessarily authority). I can think of a lot of cases, though, where I did not want it, because I was afraid of letting others down.

So do you like being given responsibility? To know that others are depending on you? When yes, and when no?

This is probably a difficult question to answer, because choices like this seem to happen on the subconscious level (totally making this up, but who's keeping score?).
__________________
Self-note: Cimarron, remember your goals.
1. Make sure you have correctly identified your type
so that you can
2. Learn to communicate more effectively with other types.
Cimarron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
lol b4nned
 
Beat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Type: ISTJ
Location: NC
Posts: 3,424
Beat is unique just like everyone else
Default

Depends. If we feel confident we can handle the responsibility, sure, I even enjoy it but if not, it's just a weight on the shoulders and added stress. I think that speaks for most people though...? Well, I guess there are those that escape responsibility at all costs...

They don't call us the duty fulfillers for nothing, I don't think. It's a big part of how we "grade" ourselves, by taking on responsibilities and hopefully excelling at them.
Beat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 05:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senor Member
 
Cimarron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Type: ISTJ
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 760
Cimarron is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat View Post
Depends. If we feel confident we can handle the responsibility, sure, I even enjoy it but if not, it's just a weight on the shoulders and added stress. I think that speaks for most people though...? Well, I guess there are those that escape responsibility at all costs...
Yeah, to me it did kind of seem general enough to apply to anybody, which makes me wonder why they think it's worth mentioning in SJs more than others.
__________________
Self-note: Cimarron, remember your goals.
1. Make sure you have correctly identified your type
so that you can
2. Learn to communicate more effectively with other types.
Cimarron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 05:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
lol b4nned
 
Beat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Type: ISTJ
Location: NC
Posts: 3,424
Beat is unique just like everyone else
Default

Check my edit. There might be more to it but I think it kind of nails it. hah
Beat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senor Member
 
Cimarron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Type: ISTJ
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 760
Cimarron is unique just like everyone else
Default

Good call. There may be something to that.
__________________
Self-note: Cimarron, remember your goals.
1. Make sure you have correctly identified your type
so that you can
2. Learn to communicate more effectively with other types.
Cimarron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 05:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
abv 4.8%
 
substitute's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Type: ENTP
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,894
substitute is unique just like everyone else
Default

I find this interesting (if I may interject, not being an SJ )

I don't tend to assume responsibility voluntarily, being naturally inclined to self-doubt and fear that I'll fail. But if someone gives it to me, I take it as a compliment; a vote of confidence that helps override my own insecurity and do the job full justice to repay them for this much appreciated trust they've placed in me.
__________________
(Ne > Ti = Te > Fe > Ni > Se > Si > Fi) = (ENTP/J 7w8) = unholy hybrid

honore et sincerite factus sum

My Flickr ...... My NT Blog
substitute is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 05:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
Wreck 'em
 
Jeffster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Type: ISFP
Location: College Station, Texas
Posts: 2,653
Jeffster is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by substitute View Post
(if I may interject, not being an SJ )
No you may not.

__________________
"I think Jeffster deserves the MBTIc man of the year award " -- Angry Ayrab
"Jeffster brings a smile to almost any thread he posts in." -- MissMurder
"You MUST have only one quote in your signature for maximum impact." -- Jack Flak
Jeffster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 06:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Anja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Type: INFP
Location: Mankato, MN
Posts: 1,507
Anja has disabled reputation
Default

I see this pattern in my very ISTJ husband. Any group he belongs to he soon rises to an authoritarian position. He can be very clear about goals and needs. He is also exceedingly clear about his methods being the best possible choice. And he is frequently correct.

Little by little he assumes responsibility for nearly everything, becomes tired, then sometimes resentful that others aren't pulling their weight but he has already usurped their responsibility.

It looks like a trap, this pattern. In getting his needs for order met he also becomes thwarted in contributing to group harmony and cooperation.
__________________
"No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer
Anja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 06:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
bbites's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Type: ISTJ
Posts: 31
bbites is unique just like everyone else
Default

Hmm. I don't like being automatically given responsibility. If someone else can't handle it than I'll usually step in and take over but usually for selfish motives; like group work at school, I won't volunteer to be the leader but if the leader isn't "leading" than I'll step in and do whatever needs to be done to save my grade. But in general I get anxious about taking the reigns, so to speak. Too much pressure.
bbites is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 06:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Recoleta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Type: ISTJ
Posts: 383
Recoleta is unique just like everyone else
Default

First off, yes, I think there is a big distinction in wanting to have responsibility and wanting to have authority.

Authority I am not such a fan of...it is the one aspect of teaching that I likely find the hardest to deal with. I don't like making decisions that people will be unhappy with, but I also realize that things need to get done and I can't make everyone happy. I usually end up being too diplomatic and accommodating and people take advantage of that.

As for responsibility, it can go either way. I like it when people come to me and ask me to lead...kind of like what Substitute was saying...because those people have seen some sort of quality in me that they think would be right for the job. Also, that way, if things go badly, I can simply say, "Hey, I gave it a shot, but I didn't ask for this position so you should be unhappy with yourselves for putting me there." (This hasn't really happened though, I'm just speculating).

I'm also ok with taking over when the current leader is incompetent...if I find the other person to be incompetent it means that I know I can do the job better. Plus, I'm probably better with responsibility/authority in this position, because when I'm ticked off, I go into major productivity mode and I don't care what other people think and I tend to lose that whole diplomatic, soft side to myself...I just get stuff done.

Usually though, I never volunteer for responsibility or authority roles unless no one else wants to do it (teaching is different because I'm not leading peers or my elders). I prefer to be assigned something, and I'll get it done.
Recoleta is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fictional NFs Uberfuhrer The NF Idyllic 61 08-10-2008 05:24 PM
Me? cascademn What's my Type? 37 08-09-2008 06:20 AM
NT Responsibility, SP enjoyment and own example Santtu The NT Rationale 5 10-22-2007 07:48 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:28 PM.


Donate via Paypal
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Myers-Briggs Type Indicator™ and MBTI™ are trademarks of Consulting Psychologist Press. All rights reserved.