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Old 10-17-2007, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default What do you think of ESTJs?

I get the impression from some forums that people often have the wrong idea of what type of person an ESTJ is. What are y'alls views?
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I love 'em (especially the gal ESTJs -- they are like hell on wheels, you just have to get out of their way).

I have butted heads with different ones in my times, but I very much respect their thinking process, their practicality, their ability to accomplish tasks, and their realism. And you don't need to mince words with most of them either; they're very much up-front with their views/opinions.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I can't stand most of the ones I've met.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Besides having a lot of similarities with ENTJs, the one I know is ok.
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My best friend is an ESTJ so I obviously find them at least somewhat cool! We used to be roommates years ago- she tended to keep things rather organized, but thankfully wasn't critical of my somewhat disorganized manners and tendency to keep odd sleep hours I always thought it was cool that she would make lists and check things off, which meant that she generally got more done in a day than I did- she was also pretty good about putting down her foot about when we should cut off with the drinking and head home after a party or an evening at the bars. I'm quite sure that she'll get a lot more done in her life than I will in mine!
If other ESTJs are anything like this I love them all!!!
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have this image of "pillar of the community".

Which could be good or bad depending on the commumity.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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There is a couple at my church who run the young adults group; the husband, I suspect, is ESTJ. I would have to say he's one of the most balanced people I've met and at 26 he is already a church elder (EDIT: in a congregation that has no shortage of grey hairs).
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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My dad seems to fit ESTJ well. We get along o.k.

In general, though, the bad sides of an ESTJ tend to be more immediately obvious with direct effects on people than for most other types. The stereotypical bad side of an ESTJ is bossy, over involved in other people's business, hard to get rid of, hard to convince, and a general pain in the ass to people near them. Compare to a stereotypical bad ENTP, who might be annoyingly talky but can be avoided more easily, or a stereotypical bad INxP, who will procrastinate and not finish stuff, but won't be injecting themselves into other people's business, and are easier to keep away.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I may have wrong impressions, but would like to hear more about it.

There have been female ESTJs (people i have guessed to be this type anyway) who have been very forceful and competitive with me based on personality. I didn't appreciate those experiences. If those women were pointed in the right direction, they could do really important, useful things. They had no capacity to see who i am or acknowledge my skill because i didn't force it on them the way they forced their personalities on me (and lack of skill in these particular cases).
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I may have wrong impressions, but would like to hear more about it.

There have been female ESTJs (people i have guessed to be this type anyway) who have been very forceful and competitive with me based on personality. I didn't appreciate those experiences. If those women were pointed in the right direction, they could do really important, useful things. They had no capacity to see who i am or acknowledge my skill because i didn't force it on them the way they forced their personalities on me (and lack of skill in these particular cases).
Toonia, maybe you should be more specific. Were these ESTJs in positions of authority over you? You say they were competitive, did they attempt to upstage or demean your achievements? Did they apply a superficial criteria in an attempt to make you feel less worthy? Gotta be more specific, girl.

In my opinion, ESTJ women are the least competitive of all women, they're usually team players. ESTJ men are sometimes the exact opposite.
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