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Totally Twinkly
Join Date: Apr 2007
Type: INtP
Location: ! Coffeetopia !
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I love 'em (especially the gal ESTJs -- they are like hell on wheels, you just have to get out of their way).
I have butted heads with different ones in my times, but I very much respect their thinking process, their practicality, their ability to accomplish tasks, and their realism. And you don't need to mince words with most of them either; they're very much up-front with their views/opinions.
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The 8 formerly known as 5
Join Date: May 2007
Type: INTJ
Location: TEXAS! the state formerly known as a country
Posts: 2,457
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Besides having a lot of similarities with ENTJs, the one I know is ok.
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thinking of you...
Join Date: Oct 2007
Type: entp
Location: wherever
Posts: 6,834
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My best friend is an ESTJ so I obviously find them at least somewhat cool! We used to be roommates years ago- she tended to keep things rather organized, but thankfully wasn't critical of my somewhat disorganized manners and tendency to keep odd sleep hours
I always thought it was cool that she would make lists and check things off, which meant that she generally got more done in a day than I did- she was also pretty good about putting down her foot about when we should cut off with the drinking and head home after a party or an evening at the bars. I'm quite sure that she'll get a lot more done in her life than I will in mine! If other ESTJs are anything like this I love them all!!! Plus- she got my sense of humor |
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My termites win
Join Date: Aug 2007
Type: INTP
Location: North of somewhere (so not the south pole)
Posts: 2,629
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I have this image of "pillar of the community".
Which could be good or bad depending on the commumity.
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The string is so far...
Join Date: Jun 2007
Type: INFP
Location: Alberta
Posts: 4,038
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There is a couple at my church who run the young adults group; the husband, I suspect, is ESTJ. I would have to say he's one of the most balanced people I've met and at 26 he is already a church elder (EDIT: in a congregation that has no shortage of grey hairs).
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2007
Type: INTx
Location: Champaign, Ill
Posts: 1,379
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My dad seems to fit ESTJ well. We get along o.k.
In general, though, the bad sides of an ESTJ tend to be more immediately obvious with direct effects on people than for most other types. The stereotypical bad side of an ESTJ is bossy, over involved in other people's business, hard to get rid of, hard to convince, and a general pain in the ass to people near them. Compare to a stereotypical bad ENTP, who might be annoyingly talky but can be avoided more easily, or a stereotypical bad INxP, who will procrastinate and not finish stuff, but won't be injecting themselves into other people's business, and are easier to keep away. |
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entrenched detachment
Join Date: Apr 2007
Type: infx
Location: desert forest
Posts: 1,843
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I may have wrong impressions, but would like to hear more about it.
There have been female ESTJs (people i have guessed to be this type anyway) who have been very forceful and competitive with me based on personality. I didn't appreciate those experiences. If those women were pointed in the right direction, they could do really important, useful things. They had no capacity to see who i am or acknowledge my skill because i didn't force it on them the way they forced their personalities on me (and lack of skill in these particular cases).
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Type: ESTJ
Posts: 232
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In my opinion, ESTJ women are the least competitive of all women, they're usually team players. ESTJ men are sometimes the exact opposite. |
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