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Old 10-08-2008, 12:41 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Yes but I am also what I am to myself, and that ends at death, thus I become only what I am to you and others who remember me, so although that partially happens when I leave your side physically it is only partial but it is complete once I'm dead.
Complete only in the sense that there will be no more chapters from the original hand. The memories still "live".
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Also even if you don't believe in judgment but just an afterlife still it effects people, remember the conversation in the lord of the rings between Gandalf and Pippin in Minas Tirith? About what happens when you die and Pippin concludes "that doesn't sounds so bad"? IT meant they behaved differently, instead of running like mad to find someway out they were able to face the challenge ahead of them. Being J may help with all that though...
I wasn't going to tackle that but seeing as it's a recurring thought train... this afterlife malarky. Even if you never age, never know anything but your ideal of everything then it's either
A- A drug haven where none interact as each person's view of perfect would then impact on other's and hence bring the whole thing down.
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B- Going to get very, very, very boring at some point.

It's kinda odd but even given the choice between oblivion and such nirivana I'm still not so sure I'd jump away from oblivion quite as fast as I'm supposed to.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:30 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I wasn't going to tackle that but seeing as it's a recurring thought train... this afterlife malarky. Even if you never age, never know anything but your ideal of everything then it's either
A- A drug haven where none interact as each person's view of perfect would then impact on other's and hence bring the whole thing down.
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B- Going to get very, very, very boring at some point.

It's kinda odd but even given the choice between oblivion and such nirivana I'm still not so sure I'd jump away from oblivion quite as fast as I'm supposed to.
Ah but now you are changing the question, from "is there an afterlife?" to "what must/should that after life be like?"

AS for a choice between certain oblivion and uncertain eternity, I'm sorry I think I'd pick eternity. I'd think about it some though!
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Ah but now you are changing the question, from "is there an afterlife?" to "what must/should that after life be like?"
More like questioning the philosophy behind the theories that created the idea of an afterlife.
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AS for a choice between certain oblivion and uncertain eternity, I'm sorry I think I'd pick eternity. I'd think about it some though!
I think I would too but I'm not so sure I could find enough to fill an eternity. Just imagining the whole learning process and then waiting for people to catch up so you can see the whole thing in completion would be a pain... assuming the whole looking down from a cloud works.. of course if you can just go create whatever you like then that would be different.
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