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Old 10-12-2008, 01:18 PM   #131 (permalink)
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afterall, the goal of an IQ test isn't to measure intelligence but how well you do at school. no kidding.
If that's true, then why not just look at someone's school grades? Those serve the same purpose: they measure how well you do in school, but not how "intelligent" you are. From your statement, it sounds like having both (IQ and school grades) is basically unnecessary.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:42 AM   #132 (permalink)
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If that's true, then why not just look at someone's school grades? Those serve the same purpose: they measure how well you do in school, but not how "intelligent" you are. From your statement, it sounds like having both (IQ and school grades) is basically unnecessary.
hey i didn't make this shit up. the reason they made the IQ test was to see who would go into the streamed classes.wikipedia it or something.
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Doing well in school requires work, doing well on an IQ test much less so.
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In 1905 the French psychologist Alfred Binet published the first modern intelligence test called the Binet-Simon intelligence scale. His principal goal was to identify students who needed special help in coping with the school curriculum
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Doing well in school requires work, doing well on an IQ test much less so.
True, to some degree, but IQ is rooted in the Stanford-Binet test, which is very much aligned with school testing. Course, you get into circular concepts here. It was meant to test for school, so it used school-liked questions, so doing well is... well... redundant.

Not useless, it is predictive enough to be worthwhile, but... not exactly as meaningful as people make it out to be.

edit: Or what the link above shows. Beat to the punch, meh.

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School aptitude tests are similar to IQ tests. Doing well in school, as in getting good grades, is not. I know this from experience, always scoring 98-99th percentile on tests, yet receiving more Cs than anything else, because I didn't care.
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In 1905 the French psychologist Alfred Binet published the first modern intelligence test called the Binet-Simon intelligence scale. His principal goal was to identify students who needed special help in coping with the school curriculum
Oh, well that's not quite what I thought you meant. And Jack makes a good point.
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Oh, well that's not quite what I thought you meant. And Jack makes a good point.
there's something missing in jack's point though, since what IQ tests measure is still your potential to learn, which is different from intelligence in general. your ability to take in information is not that same as your ability to think for yourself. there's also stuff such as creativity but i guess that's arguable.
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there's something missing in jack's point though, since what IQ tests measure is still your potential to learn, which is different from intelligence in general. your ability to take in information is not that same as your ability to think for yourself. there's also stuff such as creativity but i guess that's arguable.
I disagree. IQ tests do test knowledge, and often culturally specific knowledge. Not as much as a History test, but you need to know things to score well.
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im pretty sure that INTJs statistically do better, but hey, why not an intuitive feeler. just because they are a feeler doesn't mean they can't be logical. i personally tend to be a very logical person if i need to do so.

oh ya and IQ is irrelevant (im not saying that because mine is low, because mine is actually quite high), its EQ that makes the most difference
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