enfp & entp

[BlueWing]

Originally Posted by targo

they are so similar in so many ways yet so different in so many other ways. Seriously though just how does one make this work?

Have both cultivate their introverted judgment. That is the essence of our personality. When you're both clear on who you are, relating should be easier.

Otherwise introverted judgment will be used by both of you to appease your Intuitive whims. Thus the personalities of both will be portrayed in the negative light as they are subservient to hollow and transient aims of Extroverted Intuition.

Because of closer affinity with Introverted Judgment, INTP/INFP tend to do better in intimate relationships than ENTP/ENFP.

[substitute]

No, I don't mean an INTP/ENFP pairing, I mean that the fact that... meh, just re-read what I already wrote lol Sorry, I don't think you got it!

(no offence)

[targo]

oh I see
enfp is NeFi
entp is NeTi

isn't an
intp NiTe?

I honestly think that the dual Ne function can be a bit much. But it could work......

[substitute]

Yeah that's what I meant - I think the thing I read about ENFP and INTP being each other's counterparts meant that they play the same part as each other, in different 'worlds' - perhaps this means that the role ENFP's play amongst people is the same as the INTP plays in the intellectual world... the questioner, improver, clarifier, perhaps?

Now, what I was getting at, is that if that's the relationship between INTP and ENFP, it might shed some light on why ENFP/ENTP miscommunicate at times... my experience of us both trying to do the same thing and saying the same thing, but speaking in different 'languages' so that neither of us notices that's what's going on, and both thinks the other is arguing/disagreeing/attacking. Only later after much thought, have I realised every time this was what happened between my brother and I.

[BlueWing]

Originally Posted by targo

oh I see
enfp is NeFi
entp is NeTi

isn't an
intp NiTe?

I honestly think that the dual Ne function can be a bit much. But it could work......

No, you're thinking of INTJ.

INTP is TiNe.

[Blackwater]

Two ENPs in a relationship = an all-out Dionysian love fest!

[cafe]

Going with BW's theory, I think it's possible, Tara, that you have had to subvert your Fi because life as a wife and mother has required that you use Fe and maybe Si a great deal at the expense of the functions you would normally be developing for your age and type.

Also, with a husband whom I assume has a strong, possibly larger than life personality, it doesn't leave you much of a platform for shining except as his sidekick. You have probably bent over backwards to accommodate his dreams and passions, but you might both need some practice doing the same for you. It sounds as though he is willing. Take him up on it.

I think your taking time to get fit is a big step in the right direction and I applaud you for it. Keep trying to find ways to do things you love and expect your husband to accommodate them (just like you would for him-- you are equals and you deserve it). You will feel better about your life and yourself and that will give you a better perspective for seeing where you want to go from there.

Going from what Substitute has said here and elsewhere, I think your husband needs a certain amount of pushing back, if that makes sense. If there is no resistance, nothing solid, it gives him nothing to bounce off of. He probably wants to play racquetball, not golf, relationally speaking, whether or not he knows it.

Anyway, that might just all be crap, but that's what my gut is saying. Whatever, however, I'm pullin for ya.

[targo]

I am not sure if I have mentioned this but it's common for an enfp to mask so that people will like them. I was not sheltered from this and masked as an esfj for a while just so I could fit into my family, I was possibly more I than E even.

Another thing I think we need to take into account is birthing placement. My entp hubby was the baby of the family for 9yrs before the twins came along and he took advantage of that situation, as he grew up he was taught that he has something to prove, actually more that he needed to prove something.

Yes he's willing, yes he's trying, it's not easy though and we struggle and I would rather submit than fight, would rather fall then be picked up

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by targo

they are so similar in so many ways yet so different in so many other ways. Seriously though just how does one make this work?

They look at the world through the same lens.


ENFP sees it in hyper vivid colors.

ENTP sees it in black and white.


Therefore making ENFP hypersensitive and ENTP jaded.

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by targo

Seriously though just how does one make this work?

The same way you make any of relationship work.

It should actually be even easier... because they intuitively understand where each other is coming.


It could get a little crazy though. But I have a feeling they both like it better that way.