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Old 09-15-2007, 11:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is true for me, and I've heard it mentioned multiple times. But I've never seen any good reasoning as to why they are sometimes perceived this way. I'm not shy at all and can be quite energetic and even loud around friends. I just really like alone time.

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Old 09-15-2007, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It depends on the subject matter.
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Many INTJs are very confident. Some people view all introverts as just shy. Some people might confuse that confidence with extroversion?
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When we are around our close friends, we may as well be extraverts. Otherwise, we are just good at faking it (assuming you have put any effort at all into it).
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I think, sometimes, confidence can be misconstrued as extroversion. INTJs probably the most confident INs (speaking in broad generalities).

I think the "Chart-the-Course" introverts (INTJ, INFJ, ISTP, ISTJ) are generally seen as more confident (because they're more directive) than the "Behind-the-Scenes" introverts (INTP, INFP, ISFP, ISFJ).

Again, basing this of my "book-based" intuition FWIW.
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INFJ's are sometimes confused for extraverts too.

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It says here that it is a product of the Feeling function, but I think more specifically it has to do with how Ni interacts with Fe (or in the case of INTJ's how Ni interacts with Te). When an INTJ has a goal in mind I believe that it can really energize them to the point that it makes them appear to be extraverts. INFJ's are a bit different in that I think their "extraversion" shows whenever they are in a social situation where they feel comfortable. There may be some crossover between the two types as well since they are so similar.
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I think the reason for INTJs often being perceived as extroverts is that what the world around them gets to see is plain old Te. The aggressiveness and the cynical sense of humor which can go along with it, may seem like extroversion to those more reserved. In addition to that, some INTJs have been known to have a certain tendency to give orders to the folks around them...

The Ni part mostly happens in solitude, so people do not notice much about it.
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It says here that it is a product of the Feeling function, but I think more specifically it has to do with how Ni interacts with Fe (or in the case of INTJ's how Ni interacts with Te). When an INTJ has a goal in mind I believe that it can really energize them to the point that it makes them appear to be extraverts. INFJ's are a bit different in that I think their "extraversion" shows whenever they are in a social situation where they feel comfortable. There may be some crossover between the two types as well since they are so similar.
That's a good point. I do that a lot. And I'm not shy in recruiting help, either.
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This is true for me, and I've heard it mentioned multiple times. But I've never seen any good reasoning as to why they are sometimes perceived this way. I'm not shy at all and can be quite energetic and even loud around friends. I just really like alone time.

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I think it's a fallacy to equate energy and, particularly, loudness with extraversion.
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I agree, but it isn't entirely bad to use it to measure the appearance of extraversion.
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