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Old 07-31-2007, 07:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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And when you get INFJ vs. ENFJ....holy shit. And they use weapons too. Especially soft drinks.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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And when you get INFJ vs. ENFJ....holy shit. And they use weapons too. Especially soft drinks.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Underdeveloped SJs are either dogmatic about religious beliefs or trust what the media tells them.
Yes, and SFJs become clingy.
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That would require watching The Sopranos. Ugh.
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Fs as a whole when gone bad, in the temper sense, tend to undermine people and become vicious not in attacking people's strengths but their weaknesses. I think the pattern goes that a T tries to undermine your strengths and an F will aim more for your weak spots (due to being able to see them easier and in more clarity) and will bring down the whole house of cards.

Ns try desperately to piece together patterns which support their fritzing N, which often makes links which no one in their right mind would (most call these "assumptions" but that's over simplifying a little) make.

I've found NFs to show strong ST qualities when underdeveloped or enraged. They are here and now and see no consequences. They become more and more blind to what effect they have on others (a quality most often associated with STs) and have, to me at least, appeared to be completely without vision and diplomacy.

Of course the other facet is the "I'm going to do this and you can go f yourself if you don't agree" but that's more NFJ, I think.
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Based on living with one for 7 years I'd say ISTJs wont see reason when they're enraged. They think you're attacking them when you argue a point. They can also go on and on and on, thinking if they can just explain it to you someother way you'll understand them and agree with them... Oh, and if you want to see an ISTJ get upset you tell them "You're doing it wrong"

I (INTJ) keep things inside until it all comes out. Sometimes I know I'm close to overreacting and it's like I'm watching myself go through with it; I think "oh no, this is going to be ugly, whatever you do, don't say x or y or z". or "I wonder what he'd do if I took this glass and threw it at him". I tend to stay very quiet and very rigid because I know if I don't, I might do something Really Bad. I used to scream and stomp and throw things, now I just make myself leave. "Get out and get away and calm down".
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Based on living with one for 7 years I'd say ISTJs wont see reason when they're enraged. They think you're attacking them when you argue a point. They can also go on and on and on, thinking if they can just explain it to you someother way you'll understand them and agree with them... Oh, and if you want to see an ISTJ get upset you tell them "You're doing it wrong"

I (INTJ) keep things inside until it all comes out. Sometimes I know I'm close to overreacting and it's like I'm watching myself go through with it; I think "oh no, this is going to be ugly, whatever you do, don't say x or y or z". or "I wonder what he'd do if I took this glass and threw it at him". I tend to stay very quiet and very rigid because I know if I don't, I might do something Really Bad. I used to scream and stomp and throw things, now I just make myself leave. "Get out and get away and calm down".
...so much for my theory that you, as an INTJ married to an ISTJ, must have the patience of a saint.
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No, ironically, he's much more patient that I am. I, however, make allowances for him I make for nobody else. No one.

The 'used to scream and stomp and throw things" was when I was a teenager, btw, reacting to my parents. And while I think about the throwing of things and the nasty biting comments, I don't say them.
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Please don't let me get angry; the mean guy with the toys comes out and does terrible things.
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Please don't let me get angry; the mean guy with the toys comes out and does terrible things
Hmmm what kinds of toys & what kinds of "terrible things" ?
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