Don't ask these types to..

Santtu · 03-05-2008, 01:00 PM

..act serious for a while?
..relax for a while?
..calm down?
..open up a bit?
..reconsider their ideals?
..keep better record of their items?
..think before doing?
..find their inner peace?
..realize it's just money?
..shrug off a a public humiliation?

I find it freakishly annoying to hear different people in here asking me to be less serious. Then again, by some accounts, ENTP don't take anything seriously

So come up with your answers and find some originals, if you're on the mood

Santtu · 03-05-2008, 01:50 PM

Inspired by this old post btw .)

Quote:

Originally Posted by proteanmix

And for Chrissakes: DO NOT EVER TELL AN ENFJ TO CALM DOWN!!

So, is it true? What about the others?

BryNTP · 03-05-2008, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santtu

..act serious for a while?
..relax for a while?
..calm down?
..open up a bit?
..reconsider their ideals?
..keep better record of their items?
..think before doing?
..find their inner peace?
..realize it's just money?
..shrug off a a public humiliation?

Interesting thread. I am wondering if these relate to a trait that you know you have but constantly fight? Or if it is for a trait that you don't believe you have and hate in others? For myself (INTP), I would say that it would seriously bother me if someone asked me "to be more open-minded about a subject". I am guessing it has something to do with my self perception of myself of being able to view all sides of an argument. Anyone that would question that would make me doubt myself. For my wife (ISFJ), I know that it really bothers her if I criticize her in any way so if I have an opinion about something she is doing, I have to be extra careful to make sure she doesn't take it as a personal attack. So to put it in words for this thread, it would be me saying something like...."What were you thinking?".

Santtu · 03-05-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryNTP

Interesting thread. I am wondering if these relate to a trait that you know you have but constantly fight? Or if it is for a trait that you don't believe you have and hate in others?

Yeah, it's equally pointless to ask someone to become something he can't be, or something he already is

But in the other case, a change is assumed possible.. and even wished.

In the other, the trait is not recognized.

Jen · 03-05-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santtu

Inspired by this old post btw .)

So, is it true? What about the others?

lol I'm borderline and don't appreciate being told that. I don't usually tell people how to act. You are who you are. In fact I hate when people try and tell me how I should behave or feel about something. SJ's are great at that sort of thing that's why I try and avoid them.

millerm277 · 03-05-2008, 03:31 PM

Never ask an ISTP to open up a bit.

Santtu · 03-05-2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jen

lol I'm borderline and don't appreciate being told that. I don't usually tell people how to act. You are who you are. In fact I hate when people try and tell me how I should behave or feel about something. SJ's are great at that sort of thing that's why I try and avoid them.

Yeah, that's why the requests I cited in the OP can be as bad as they are .) I mean, someone might indeed do better by opening up, for example.. but, it's such loaded language!

I think the key issue in those statements (and why I think they may be grossly misused) is the assumption that comes with them. It's style over substance. The person's merits are dismissed, and the point is made on the style of their behavior.

But, there's others. I'll compile my list

Uberfuhrer · 03-05-2008, 03:35 PM

Never ask an INFJ to reconsider their ideals.

Santtu · 03-05-2008, 03:37 PM

Never ask this type to..

..relax for a while? ESTJ
..calm down? ENFJ, props PM

..open up a bit? ISTJ
..reconsider their ideals? INFJ
..keep better record of their items? INTP & ~~ENFP~~ENTP
..think before doing? (?)
..find their inner peace? (?)
..realize it's just money? ESTJ
..shrug off a a public humiliation? ISFJ

OctaviaCaesar · 03-05-2008, 04:04 PM

Never expect an ISFP to:
*give an opinion without being coaxed into doing so
*get into a loud argument
*run around at a frantic pace to get things done NOW
*not try to help someone who is hurting

Never ask an ISTJ to:
*let go of that to-do list
*stop expecting great things of self and others
*forget painful things that have happened

I would give a longer list for my own type if I only knew another INFJ.

03-05-2008, 01:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Santtu Survey Monkey Join Date: Sep 2007 Type: ENTJ Posts: 1,391	Don't ask these types to.. ..act serious for a while? ..relax for a while? ..calm down? ..open up a bit? ..reconsider their ideals? ..keep better record of their items? ..think before doing? ..find their inner peace? ..realize it's just money? ..shrug off a a public humiliation? I find it freakishly annoying to hear different people in here asking me to be less serious. Then again, by some accounts, ENTP don't take anything seriously So come up with your answers and find some originals, if you're on the mood __________________ Go give your opinion in the First Quarterly MBTICENTRAL Type Influence Survey of the 2008/Q4! Now with a FAQ. MBTI: ENTJ, Enneagram 8, Te> Ti=Ne=Ni > Se = Fi > Fe > Si, Oldham: Solitary, Global 5: sloan SCOEI; sloan+ s\|C\|oEx; primary Calm, OneIshy: Choleric Melancholy

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millerm277 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Type: ISTP Location: NJ Posts: 572	Never ask an ISTP to open up a bit. __________________ I-95%, S-84%, T-89%, P-84%

03-05-2008, 03:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Santtu Survey Monkey Join Date: Sep 2007 Type: ENTJ Posts: 1,391	Never ask this type to.. ..relax for a while? ESTJ ..calm down? ENFJ, props PM ..open up a bit? ISTJ ..reconsider their ideals? INFJ ..keep better record of their items? INTP & ~~ENFP~~ENTP ..think before doing? (?) ..find their inner peace? (?) ..realize it's just money? ESTJ ..shrug off a a public humiliation? ISFJ __________________ Go give your opinion in the First Quarterly MBTICENTRAL Type Influence Survey of the 2008/Q4! Now with a FAQ. MBTI: ENTJ, Enneagram 8, Te> Ti=Ne=Ni > Se = Fi > Fe > Si, Oldham: Solitary, Global 5: sloan SCOEI; sloan+ s\|C\|oEx; primary Calm, OneIshy: Choleric Melancholy

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03-05-2008, 04:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
OctaviaCaesar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Type: INFJ Location: Middle Tennessee State University Posts: 211	Never expect an ISFP to: give an opinion without being coaxed into doing so get into a loud argument run around at a frantic pace to get things done NOW not try to help someone who is hurting Never ask an ISTJ to: let go of that to-do list stop expecting great things of self and others *forget painful things that have happened I would give a longer list for my own type if I only knew another INFJ.