Robin Hood morality test

[sciski]

This created an interesting discussion on INFPgc:
Talisman: Robin Hood Morality Test (http://www.talisman.org/quizzes/robin-hood-morality.shtml)

Not sure about the author's interpretations of your specific choices, but it is an interesting exercise in prioritising your values.

Edit: I encourage people to post their reasoning for the order they chose... I'd like to see if there are any correlations with type.

[Anja]

Very interesting sciski. shall I spill my guts?

"You are faily broadminded, romantic and reasonably contented. You value kindess greatly and try to live by your ideals. You do not conceal from yourself, or from others, your strong need for security, which may be either emotional or material.

Women: Your experiences of men have not all been happy, perhaps because you hope for a little too much?"

What do you think? Were they all this complimentary? I'd say it describes me.

[sciski]

I think that's a good description of you. :)

They were definitely not all complimentary! Here be the answers: The Robin Hood Morality Test (http://www.talisman.org/cgi-bin/robin-hood-morality?all=true)

My answer was : Little John, Maid Marion, Sheriff, Robin Hood (I ended up swapping the final two from my original answer).


You are the slightly romantic realist. You respect truth, and are broadminded and flexible. Whether you are a man or a woman you are probably a happy person. You like people and they can readily make friends with you. You are not very adventurous, but this does not bother you.

My reasoning was that Little John did nothing wrong and actually rescued Marion when she needed help.
Marion probably could have tried another plan to escape, but she sacrificed herself and was honest to Robin.
The Sheriff was just being his ratty self, and was consistent in letting them free after Marion held up her end of the bargain.
Robin, I feel sympathy for because he was extremely hurt, but yeah, that response sucked.

[kelric]

Hmm.

You are the slightly romantic realist. You respect truth, and are broadminded and flexible. Whether you are a man or a woman you are probably a happy person. You like people and they can readily make friends with you. You are not very adventurous, but this does not bother you.

Not sure about the italicized part, but the rest of it, maybe.

[Anja]

Oh, man! Yeah. I really struggled with who was the most rotten between Robin and the Sherriff. I like your reasoning. Why would you expect any more from the Sherriff than what he did. I guess my choice is why it said I have been discouraged in some of my relationships with men.

That has been true. I expect more emotional closeness than I've found. But with time I have come to accept that my expectations are often too high and I can alter them with a little effort.

A girlfriend told me this in my twenties and I blew her off! Live and learn.

But, you know, considering that sub called you "mister," that statement in your answer that goes, "Whether you are a man or a woman" gives me pause for thought, Girlfriend. Hee.

[Anja]

Yeah. I expected Robin to be a little more generous of spirit. . .

I wonder why the test indicates that you two are not so adventurous. How do you think they arrived at that through your answers?

I do see you as being more pragmatic than I, sciski.

[Athenian200]

We would expect you to be a happy, well-balanced person who likes people and is liked by others. You question whether many conventional views on morality are valid under all circumstances.

Seems a little optimistic, but I think some people like me, and I like some of them... so why not?

[kyuuei]

We would expect you to be a happy, well-balanced person who likes people and is liked by others. You question whether many conventional views on morality are valid under all circumstances.

Women: You will expect high standards from the men to whom you give your love.

Hm. I also struggled with these.. Little John was definitely high on my list, and so was Maid Marion. Robin and the Sheriff, even though they both have their flaws.. the fact that Robin Hood worked TOWARD his, instead of the Sheriff denying his because of his career.. it made Robin the slight push over.

[sciski]

Hehe, well I'm known for being the most 'manly' of women in my circle of friends. To which I say, I WILL ARM-WRESTLE YOU TO PROVE YOU WRONG!! (argh, going off-topic in my own thread!)

[kyuuei]

Hehe, well I'm known for being the most 'manly' of women in my circle of friends. To which I say, I WILL ARM-WRESTLE YOU TO PROVE YOU WRONG!! (argh, going off-topic in my own thread!)

If I'm not the most manly of my circle of friends, I damn sure make it a point to get there.

[Anja]

Geez, you guys are cute!

I just read all the answers. Do you think there would be anyone willing to offer some of them here? Not! Whew. Thought I recognized a few people I know in RL.

[sciski]

I wonder why the test indicates that you two are not so adventurous. How do you think they arrived at that through your answers?

I do see you as being more pragmatic than I, sciski.

I'm a jaded cynic at heart. ;)

I think if we paired up, you would be the nice friendly sunny one, and I'd be the grouchytastic one making a dark cloud in the corner.

And yes, analysing the test results themselves was interesting!

For some reason, putting Robin ahead of the Sheriff is indicative of adventurousness. Perhaps because Robin truthfully acted outside of his character, whereas the Sheriff deceitfully played within the boundaries of his? Which could be indicative of my own values - that I do not mind 'deceit within bounds' as long as it's honest to someone's character, but do mind 'honesty outside bounds' because it goes against someone's character.... I think I just broke my brain.

kyuuei, I challenge thee to an arm wrestle! *rolls up sleeves, revealing Pop-eye-like guns*

[Mondo]

You are fairly broadminded romantic and reasonably contented. You value kindness greatly and try to live by your ideals. You do not conceal from yourself, or from others, your strong need for security, which may be either emotional or material.

Men: Perhaps you tend to idealize women and credit them with virtues they don't possess.

I agree with this. I put way too many women on pedestals.. :wubbie:
That was how my first and only relationship ended..

Oh yea, my order was Little John, Maid Marion, Robin Hood, Sheriff

[wolfy]

I think that's a good description of you. :)

They were definitely not all complimentary! Here be the answers: The Robin Hood Morality Test (http://www.talisman.org/cgi-bin/robin-hood-morality?all=true)

My answer was : Little John, Maid Marion, Sheriff, Robin Hood (I ended up swapping the final two from my original answer).


You are the slightly romantic realist. You respect truth, and are broadminded and flexible. Whether you are a man or a woman you are probably a happy person. You like people and they can readily make friends with you. You are not very adventurous, but this does not bother you.

My reasoning was that Little John did nothing wrong and actually rescued Marion when she needed help.
Marion probably could have tried another plan to escape, but she sacrificed herself and was honest to Robin.
The Sheriff was just being his ratty self, and was consistent in letting them free after Marion held up her end of the bargain.
Robin, I feel sympathy for because he was extremely hurt, but yeah, that response sucked.

I chose the same way for the same reasons. :hi:

[Antisocial one]

If you are not living a happy life, the cause is within yourself. You are a rebel with a trace of spoilt child about you. You value truth above morality, but you are reasonably tolerant of those who disagree with you.

Men: Any problems you have are not likely to be centered in sex.


Believe me I was more shocked then you are.
I mean, does this even sound like me?:D

[sciski]

I chose the same way for the same reasons. :hi:

wolfy, we are absolute proof that great minds think alike. :yes:

[Trinity]

Nothing too different here;

You are the slightly romantic realist. You respect truth, and are broadminded and flexible. Whether you are a man or a woman you are probably a happy person. You like people and they can readily make friends with you.

Little John: Well he didn’t do much but he appears to disregard any previous behaviour of the not-so-fair maid.

Maid Marion: She made her choice, wanted Robin’s freedom and was prepared to go to some extreme lengths to do so but without deceit.

The Sheriff: He had something the maid wanted, he bargained, she accepted.

Robin Hood: Abuse is never justified in my mind. He can be disgusted and hurt by what she did but that never excuses calling her a slut.


Now had I been the Maid it would have turned out a little differently... I woulda ditched Robin at the first opportunity, trapped the sheriff in a compromising position and than used the blackmail money to start a new life elsewhere with the nice guy, ‘lil John :)

[Trinity]

Hehe, I like this one;

The Sheriff, Little John, Robin Hood, Maid Marion

Women: You have a pretty poor opinion of yourself, haven't you?

:laugh:

[niffer]

Got the slightly romantic realist one. At first was going to put Maid Marion in front of Little John which would have gotten this result lol:


You are essentially a contented person, even if you consider yourself a little superior. You are moral by your own standards, for you believe that morality is what best suits the occasion.

Men: You are sexually uninhibited, more romantic than you may appear, and more dependent on the approval of others than you care to admit.

Women: You like being a woman, you understand what love is, and frankly enjoy sex.



But then figured Little John didn't do anything that could be interpreted as wrong out of the four of them.

My thoughts:

Little John: did nothing wrong in the story, defended someone being abused and gave them happiness (+2)

Maid Marion: went through a lot of trouble to help people out, but i suppose she could be seen as being "dirty" or whatever (+1)

Sheriff: he was just doing his frigging job, though he later decides to take advantage of a chick (lol, but she was willing! xD) (-1 still)

Robin Hood: what an asshole, someone goes through all this trouble to bail him out and he abuses them. plus, calling someone a slut in this context shows that he has more of a messed up sexual mind than the Sheriff imo....only cares about what he puts his penis into =.= (-1000)

[Kora]

You claim to be a realist or even a cynic, but you are more emotional, romantic, and truthful.

Women: You have been hurt in the past by men, or one man in particular, and will probably let it happen again.

Nah. And no, it won't happen again.

EDIT: Uh, in order...

Sheriff: He told Maid Marion that he would free the others, and so he did.
Maid Marion: She sacrificed herself for the others.
Little John: Well, he was nice at least.
Robin Hood: ... Ew. How ungrateful.

It's not that I agree with what the Sheriff or Maid Marion did. Is just that, in morality terms, they stayed true to their word.

[Falcarius]

Robin Hood, Little John, Maid Marion, the Sheriff.

You are a moralist with conventional ideas, which some people would call old-fashioned.

Men: You probably consider yourself a fair-minded man in a world which falls badly below your standards. Your inhibitions and sense of guilt are in the way of your happiness.

[Kyrielle]

You are the slightly romantic realist. You respect truth, and are broadminded and flexible. Whether you are a man or a woman you are probably a happy person. You like people and they can readily make friends with you. You are not very adventurous, but this does not bother you.


Little John: He seemed to do the least damage to others, though I do think he made a mistake in taking Maid Marion off with him. But knowing his character, he probably really would give her the devotion he promised.
Maid Marion: I really had to think about this one. I wanted to put her at the bottom for "selling out", but then she didn't disguise it and was honest about it, which overrode the other two.
The Sheriff: He's here because he had the gaul to put a woman in such a position where he knew she would have little choice other than to satisfy his desires. Just...weasely...and I don't like that.
Robin Hood: His reaction, while understandable, seemed a little too much. While he was not dishonest, he did abuse her (I assume that meant he hit her pretty damn hard) and that is worse than being manipulative.

[whatever]

You too, believe that morality is another word for commonsense and suitability, and not something which is universally valid or a religious truth. Your feeling for security is strong, and you would rate reliability as one of your virtues.

Women: You are more permissive about the morals of others than you are about your own.

ummm... not really true, but it was an interesting test!

my order:
LJ- because he had a sense of mercy
The Sheriff- he was honest
MM- though her motives were good, she DID make a choice
RH- what an asshole, I suppose he never heard not to look a gift horse in the mouth

[Anja]

Gift horse! Gift horse! Did you just call MM a horse, whatever? Hee.

[Mondo]

We would have to see what Robin Hood is like outside the current situation.
If he regularly verbally abuses women, I would put him in the bottom but it could have been that he was so shocked that was simply a visceral irrational reaction and not what he really thought.

Nevertheless, I don't think much of either Robin Hood or the Sheriff in this story.

[LucrativeSid]

You are the slightly romantic realist. You respect truth, and are broadminded and flexible. Whether you are a man or a woman you are probably a happy person. You like people and they can readily make friends with you. You are not very adventurous, but this does not bother you.

LJ, Maid, Sheriff, Robin

[InaF3157]

Maid Marion
Little John
The Sheriff
Robin Hood

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Interpretation

You are essentially a contented person, even if you consider yourself a little superior. You are moral by your own standards, for you believe that morality is what best suits the occasion.

Women: You like being a woman, you understand what love is, and frankly enjoy sex.
Where does enjoyment of sex come from here? Did Marion do it for enjoyment? :dont:

[ByMySword]

You are a moralist with conventional ideas, which some people would call old-fashioned.

Men: You probably consider yourself a fair-minded man in a world which falls badly below your standards. Your inhibitions and sense of guilt are in the way of your happiness.

Robin got the most moral because he didn't do anything wrong, really. Out of all of this, he was the victim.

Little John got the next moral because he didn't do anything wrong either. But he did defend Maid Marion, and I wouldn't have. It actually was really hard deciding between Robin and John, but since Robin came out of this situation the definite victim, I sympathized with him more.

Maid Marion got the the second to least moral because she forfeited her honor. That is something I cannot tolerate. But she did tell the truth to Robin, so thats good.

And the Sheriff got the least moral because he arrested them with no apparent justification, then blackmailed them so he could sleep with Robin's bitch. Thats fucked up. You don't mow another guy's lawn. ;)

The results weren't wrong, necessarily. I did read some others that would have fit me as well.

I'm pretty morally inclined, but at the same time my morals are different than those people usually associate with morality. I would like to think of myself as more ethical. But I would say my morals concerning infidelity and honesty are old fashioned. But fornication and violence are A-OKAY!!!! Nothing wrong with that!!! :nice:

[Colors]

Maid Marion
Little John
Robin Hood
The Sheriff

I think I'm the first person here to choose this. I find the assumptions that this is supposed to make about my moral reasoning to be rather offensive, however.

We would expect you to be a happy, well-balanced person who likes people and is liked by others. You question whether many conventional views on morality are valid under all circumstances.

Women: You will expect high standards from the men to whom you give your love.

I think this test really does hinge on your expectations of the characters, despite the test's instruction to judge outside of the normal Robin Hood story.

I mean, just because you expect the Sheriff to be nasty doesn't make it less morally less nasty for him to imprison individuals for no given reason. Although he is honest in his expectations, he is still last on the scale for me.

Maid Marion got the the second to least moral because she forfeited her honor. That is something I cannot tolerate. But she did tell the truth to Robin, so thats good.

Maid Marion is first. She did the best considering her extremely limited circumstances. It's not like she was going around offering sex to the Sheriff. She made a choice between two unsavory options. What she did was bourne out of love. What happened to romantic ideals. She made the hardest choice of all. To sacrifice her personal ideals (if she didn't want to remain loyal, the Sheriff wouldn't have needed wait until this particular situation to force her hand) for the safety of her loved ones? That's certainly admirable.

Little John is second. We don't know how honest he is being with Marion (again, you're not supposed to be using your preconceived notions). Certainly, he's good for consoling her and understanding the meaning of her sacrifice. However, if his intentions with Marion are that good, he can certainly wait longer than three seconds to swoop in with his suggestions after her intense breakup. It seems predatory in real life and it seems predatory here. It isn't necessarily. But he could do better.

Robin Hood: Is clearly lacking in viewing the big picture and is a poor fellow for being so ungrateful for Marion's devotion and honesty. About as equally honest as the Sheriff.

[InaF3157]

Robin got the most moral because he didn't do anything wrong, really. Out of all of this, he was the victim.
You don't think that Robin's abuse of Marion after her sacrifice is anything wrong?
And why does being a victim confer greater morality on Robin? Little John affirmatively did something "right" and Robin did nothing besides cuss Marion out for her efforts after sitting like a pussy in prison freeing neither self nor Marion.

[Bella]

I would never go off with Little John. I would pine after Robin good and hard, for a while, then realize he's a complete idiot and move along swiftly.

[InaF3157]

Her agreeing to go with John is a symptom of how broken she was by little pissant Robin's behavior. She'd eventually wake up and dump him, I wager.

[ByMySword]

Maid Marion is first. She did the best considering her extremely limited circumstances. It's not like she was going around offering sex to the Sheriff. She made a choice between two unsavory options. What she did was bourne out of love. What happened to romantic ideals. She made the hardest choice of all. To sacrifice her personal ideals (if she didn't want to remain loyal, the Sheriff wouldn't have needed wait until this particular situation to force her hand) for the safety of her loved ones? That's certainly admirable.

Understandable. But she didn't take it up with Robin before she did it. Thats where she messed up.

And she didn't sacrifice her ideals for the SAFETY of her loved ones. At no time were any of them in any danger, they were just locked up in prison.

[Ilah]

I choose Maid Marion, Little John, The Sherrif, Robin

My results

Interpretation
You are essentially a contented person, even if you consider yourself a little superior. You are moral by your own standards, for you believe that morality is what best suits the occasion.

Women: You like being a woman, you understand what love is, and frankly enjoy sex.

Can I go with a "no comment" for accuracy?

For Maid Marion: I view the sex as a sacrafice she made for Robin and Little John. It was a selfless act to help others. It wasn't that she didn't value her "virtue" but that love for Robin and a desire to help Robin and Little John were seen as more important. It is about being true to what you value the most.

Next Little John: I put him next because he defended Maid Marion and showed compassion and forgiveness.

Third is the Sherrif: He did at least show he had some honesty because he kept his word and released the prisoners. I have heard (fictional) stories where the jailer sleeps with the women but backs out of the deal and than brags to the prisoners about how good the sex was.

Last is Robin: Men who abuse women are scum, the dregs of humanity. Robin was also an ungreatful :censored: for treating Maid Marrion that way after her selfless act to save him.

Ilah

[Negative_]

Ms Marion, Lil' Jon, Sheriff, Robin

You are essentially a contented person, even if you consider yourself a little superior. You are moral by your own standards, for you believe that morality is what best suits the occasion.

Men: You are sexually uninhibited, more romantic than you may appear, and more dependent on the approval of others than you care to admit.

[cascademn]

msjr

Morale and Honest
(Best)
Maid Marion
The Sheriff
Little John
Robin Hood

(Worst)
Immoral and Dishonest
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Interpretation

Such an emphatic rejection of ready-made values is probably partly camouflage. You hate to be thought weak or insecure. You value honesty, and abhor hypocrisy.

Women: You are tolerant about men and their failings - but we mean men, for you have no time for boys on men's errands.

[Dwigie]

It says I'm boring with no imagination basically...oh well.