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ThatGirl
10-09-2008, 05:20 PM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

INTJMom
10-09-2008, 05:22 PM
I have a teacher's heart.

ajblaise
10-09-2008, 05:22 PM
Very likely... I'll go for as long as someone will let me. I'm very patient when it comes to sharing information and teaching, but not patient when it comes to most else.

Aimahn
10-09-2008, 05:47 PM
Yeah, Im too "generous". I'm not one to put myself out there and speak but if i'm interested in a subject and have someone willing to discuss and/or listen I could go on for an extraordinary amount of time. I have to be on tangent alert though because I have a lot of interests and an ability to tie and shift the conversation to one of those interests. I'm definitely not one of those people that seeks knowledge just so I can hoard it and hold it above someones head like I'm privileged. If I withhold it it's more likely because I think it is more nerdy and somewhat alienating.

Jack Flak
10-09-2008, 06:13 PM
You really have to ask?

Bufo
10-09-2008, 07:26 PM
How likely are you to sit down and explain or teach?

I must be asked unless we are not close enough.

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you guard from others?

Depends on their intention and wisdom.

ThatGirl
10-09-2008, 10:29 PM
See a lot of NTs are stingy with their knowledge.I wonder what the motivation is?

As an NT is it that you want to be seen as smart so you don't dish in fear of looking dumb?

Or if you are confident do you hold back in order to remain more knowledgeable than the rest?

Or is it that by sharing knowledge you don't have time for your own intelectual persuits?

Or simply that you don't care to share?

I wonder how much NTs know that never manifests itself.

Jack Flak
10-09-2008, 10:32 PM
Most INTPs, I believe, want the knowledge in the minds of those they're in contact with to be sound. Immature INTPs, like myself as a kid/teenager, aren't subtle about it and excel at irritating others. These days I try to make knowledge inviting, like cake, and you can take a bite if you like.

Haight
10-09-2008, 10:44 PM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

- Not very.
- Yes.

Anja
10-09-2008, 10:51 PM
I love free exchange of ideas and I am more than willing to teach people anything I can do if they are interested.

I can't see any reason to withhold my knowledge from anyone who asks for it.

01011010
10-09-2008, 11:03 PM
Most INTPs, I believe, want the knowledge in the minds of those they're in contact with to be sound.

Exactly. I feel it's almost a duty. I don't want the people I know to walk around with incorrect information or understanding, if I have the answers.

Haight
10-09-2008, 11:11 PM
Exactly. I feel it's almost a duty. I don't want the people I know to walk around with incorrect information or understanding, if I have the answers.Unless the person is representing me is some way, shape, or form . . . I can't relate to that at all.

Aimahn
10-09-2008, 11:20 PM
Most INTPs, I believe, want the knowledge in the minds of those they're in contact with to be sound. Immature INTPs, like myself as a kid/teenager, aren't subtle about it and excel at irritating others. These days I try to make knowledge inviting, like cake, and you can take a bite if you like.

I used to drop it like a bomb and only utilize it as an escape route, especially If one of my values had been trodden on or if someone challenged me for acting or doing something "bad or wrong".

Presenting it an inviting way is a challenge I'm still in the process of developing. I think there is a good corollary between how inviting it is presented and verbal skill.

Subtlety is a very hard skill to hone IMO and one that is key in presenting knowledge fluently and desirably.

01011010
10-09-2008, 11:29 PM
Unless the person is representing me is some way, shape, or form . . . I can't relate to that at all.

I understand where your coming from.

Yet, I prefer people I'm acquainted with to know empirically proven facts exactly as they are.

Haight
10-09-2008, 11:40 PM
Yet, I prefer people I'm acquainted with to know empirically proven facts exactly as they are.How often do you correct your friends? And what are "proven facts"? Are we talking about red is red and green is green?

01011010
10-09-2008, 11:58 PM
How often do you correct your friends? And what are "proven facts"? Are we talking about red is red and green is green?

When they ask me, or if they are way off base. Anything subjective doesn't count.

Haight
10-10-2008, 12:08 AM
When they ask me, or if they are way off base. Anything subjective doesn't count.Eh, you changed your position.

However, now I can agree with you, reluctantly.

Uberfuhrer
10-10-2008, 12:11 AM
In theory, I don't have problems explaining things to others, but I refuse to slow down. If someone is a n00b, they shouldn't come to me.

Aimahn
10-10-2008, 12:25 AM
I think that could just be a factor of excitement. I know when I'm personally first learning something I'm intensely focused and curious so I forget and am not aware of how plodding the process is. That oversight is probably the main factor in my impatience in explaining something to a n00b.

substitute
10-10-2008, 12:46 AM
I love to share and teach, but bitter experience has taught me that simply doing this often results in certain people (is it bitterness? jealousy? who can say?) throwing into my face that I'm arrogant, know-it-all, showing off, bragging about how clever I am, etc etc.

So... unless someone asks me a direct question, I tend not really, in RL, to share that much. I think I took to heart something somebody said to me when I complained of this years ago: "the way to tell the difference between helping and interfearing is to ask whether the help is solicited; likewise, the way to tell whether it's sharing knowledge or boasting know-it-all-ness, is whether your knowledge has been solicited". So, like I say... unless people ask me, I don't tell. But even if they ask me, I try to make it look as much as possible like they actually said most of the clever stuff. And I pretend to not know stuff as well as I do. Like I'll be sorta "Oh, you know, what's the word? I read about it once or someone said something... uh... what was it now? Begins with a G I think... " and fumble around the syllables until the other person guesses the word and I'll be like "Ah that's it! Glad one of us has a memory!" when in fact I knew the damn word all along.

Also, a lot of knowledge I have is, itself, very controversial - the means whereby I gained it even more so. So sharing it can result in ostracization.

But I do play down my knowledge a lot in RL, or else find more sorta 'everyman' ways to present it so it doesn't look like 'cleverness' but just 'common sense'. Reactions to this are far more positive, in general.

Maybe it's bad that I do this and maybe I should say 'fuck them' more often. But really, I just had an absolute fucking bellyfull of having the "arrogant show-off" thing thrown in my face all the damn time when all I was doing was trying to help someone. I spend so much of my time meditating and thinking hard and praying and stuff to purge those particular traits and I question myself and doubt myself so much... it fucking hurts to have someone not notice all of that and be happy to call me something so damned untrue just because I happened to accidentally make them feel stupid by saying something they thought they ought to have known.

Occasionally there are people who take me for who I am; maybe they're more educated than I am and so they know I can't be trying to impress them or show off or anything, cos they know I know they can out-do me. Or maybe we're just equals. But whatever - they just accept that I'm not like that. So with these people I take great pleasure in sharing ideas and knowledge freely and openly.

Anja
10-10-2008, 01:42 AM
I think that idea of seeking equal relationships with others is a good one, substitute. Perhaps that would be where the majority of people feel comfortable in sharing knowledge. There is a deal of sensitivity about oneupmanship in our society.

substitute
10-10-2008, 01:57 AM
Yeah. I'm pig sick of being accused of it when it was the furthest thing from my mind. Yeah I do it, but when I do it I know I'm doing it and it's with a smile and tongue in cheek, I'm not being an asshole - making fun of myself more like, when I do it. Really hate it when I get accused of it when I'm just trying to be useful.

bluemonday
10-10-2008, 02:02 AM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

I don't mind when folk keep up but I hate having to repeat myself or describe the same thing in 5 different ways.

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

The profitable parts. Other people's ignorance is how I make a living.

Thursday
10-10-2008, 02:04 AM
i will only share what i know with those who can do something constructive with it.
once that happens-yeah

but if its something like calculus or how to disappear completely.....i'm your huckleberry
although the ninja banish is more of a watch and learn tactic than a 101

ThatGirl
10-10-2008, 03:00 AM
Who does knowledge belong to that we should decide who gets it and who doesn't?

Is knowledge personal?

If you express your knowledge have you somehow shown someone your soul? Like a tracking device of where you have been or where you are going?

Why hide knowledge?

How did you gain yours?

Magic Poriferan
10-10-2008, 03:12 AM
My generousity with knowledge creates a level of output that apparently exceeds demand.

IlyaK1986
10-10-2008, 03:38 AM
If someone asks for my help in explaining something, I'll very much oblige in most cases--because if you can teach it, you also better understand it yourself.

Trinity
10-10-2008, 03:39 AM
I'll share knowledge willingly with anyone who actually wants to listen, learn or take-on-board a new perspective than do something with it.

I will not waste my time trying to help or teach those who are not interested in helping themselves.

Mercurial
10-10-2008, 03:57 AM
See a lot of NTs are stingy with their knowledge.I wonder what the motivation is?

I don't learn much when my mouth is open and enough people take "being generous with knowledge" as being a 'know-it-all' to quell wanting to share.

ThatGirl
10-10-2008, 04:15 AM
I find it interesting that most of the responses classified the sharing of knowledge as "helping" someone.

Firelie
10-10-2008, 07:06 AM
If someone honestly is interested in knowing something I know well, I'm more than happy to tell them all about it, in as much detail as they can handle.

Kyrielle
10-10-2008, 07:13 AM
I find it interesting that most of the responses classified the sharing of knowledge as "helping" someone.

A friend of mine once put it to me this way: "When you are made aware of a problem, it is much easier to solve the problem than when you aren't aware or fail to acknowledge that there even is a problem."

I think that might be what the intent is for NTs.

That sharing knowledge assists in others becoming more aware of themselves. Or perhaps that sharing knowledge gives others more tools to solve problems.

What do you all think?

entropie
10-10-2008, 07:30 AM
I am the most generous person, when it comes to my knowlegde... guess why :D

Jon
10-10-2008, 08:02 AM
if someone is genuinely interested then i'll spend all day sharing knowledge. all day. knowledge transfer makes me happy.

Jack Flak
10-10-2008, 08:05 AM
What do you all think?
I think ThatGirl has something to prove, to whom I have no idea.

Kaizer
10-10-2008, 08:05 AM
See a lot of NTs are stingy with their knowledge.I wonder what the motivation is?

As an NT is it that you want to be seen as smart so you don't dish in fear of looking dumb?

Or if you are confident do you hold back in order to remain more knowledgeable than the rest?

Or is it that by sharing knowledge you don't have time for your own intelectual persuits?

Or simply that you don't care to share?


Never stingy with sharing insight etc. in fact to the contrary.. when sharing insight makes a difference it is immensely rewarding... adds to the human 'feeling'. Ego.. meh.. don't see any point in deriving anything from withholding knowledge etc

Give/share info/insight whenever compelled to by reasons based in principles. Learn/teach whenever I can (there are no bad students only bad teachers!). Feeling inadequate in terms of knowledge has only one negative side to it which surfaces when I fail to find ppl I can refer to... the web has been a great help.

I wonder how much NTs know that never manifests itself.
'Discovered' my stash of plans and notes related to designs & models but they weren't not shared.

entropie
10-10-2008, 08:16 AM
I think ThatGirl has something to prove, to whom I have no idea.

with E's its always to themselves.

Tallulah
10-10-2008, 08:44 AM
I find it interesting that most of the responses classified the sharing of knowledge as "helping" someone.

I think that's what a lot of NTs feel like they have to offer. We're not going to bake you a casserole or write you a fuzzy letter. But if we know how to do something or know a lot about a subject, we like to share that knowledge as a way of connecting and helping others. It does feel like a form of service.

Owl
10-10-2008, 09:02 AM
Who does knowledge belong to that we should decide who gets it and who doesn't?

All things belong to God, and men are stewards who are to dispose of all things in a manner which brings glory to God.

Is knowledge personal?

Is it possible for something that's not a person to know something?

If you express your knowledge have you somehow shown someone your soul? Like a tracking device of where you have been or where you are going?

What a being does necessarily reveals what that being is. Rational souls make themselves known by expressing concepts, judgements, and arguments. If one were to display knowledge, then it would necessarily reveal something about his soul, but a display of ignorace is also revelatory.

Why hide knowledge?

Some people don't want to know, and the attempt to force them to learn will only harden their resolve to remain ignorant.

How did you gain yours?

How do you know that I know anything?

BlackOp
10-10-2008, 09:30 AM
All things belong to God, and men are stewards who are to dispose of all things in a manner which brings glory to God.



Is it possible for something that's not a person to know something?



What a being does necessarily reveals what that being is. Rational souls make themselves known by expressing concepts, judgements, and arguments. If one were to display knowledge, then it would necessarily reveal something about his soul, but a display of ignorace is also revelatory.



Some people don't want to know, and the attempt to force them to learn will only harden their resolve to remain ignorant.



How do you know that I know anything?

Man, not one thing in that entire post made sense to me. Can I find "the glory of god" in newborn twins conjoined at the skull?...is it the gleam in their eyes? Ignorant people are dangerous...and I'm not obligated spirtually to supply matches. If God wanted them to be intelligent...should have given them smarter parents. Doesnt "he" control the universe.....how hard can it be?

ygolo
10-10-2008, 09:46 AM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

I am rather likely to explain or teach. I want to be a science teacher as a second career once I retire as an engineer.

In high-school and college, I vastly preferred explaining homework solutions to other people than doing my own homework.

The knowledge I guard from others is the knowledge I am (or will be) obligated to protect by contract.

Who does knowledge belong to that we should decide who gets it and who doesn't?

Is knowledge personal?

If you express your knowledge have you somehow shown someone your soul? Like a tracking device of where you have been or where you are going?

Why hide knowledge?

How did you gain yours?

There is a concept of Intellectual Property rights. Legally IP belongs to who ever owns the rights on it.

Knowledge belongs to the person who knows. This is simply tautology.

I don't know if sharing knowledge is showing someone my soul. But perhaps the enthusiasm with some knowledge is shared is.

I would hide knowledge if I were required to by IP laws.

I gained knowledge in various ways, including: experience, thought, guided experiment, practice, insight, reading, observing, clarifying, and yes by teaching also.

Owl
10-10-2008, 09:54 AM
Man, not one thing in that entire post made sense to me. Can I find "the glory of god" in newborn twins conjoined at the skull?...is it the gleam in their eyes? Ignorant people are dangerous...and I'm not obligated spirtually to supply matches. If God wanted them to be intelligent...should have given them smarter parents. Doesnt "he" control the universe.....how hard can it be?

The glory of God's mercy is revealed in natural evil as a call back that restrains and removes moral evil from the hearts of men.

Ignorant people are dangerous, but you disarm them by winning them over to your side through education.

Why do you think God wants everyone to be intelligent?

Terian
10-10-2008, 10:59 AM
I'm very generous. I love to share ideas and inform people of any and all fascinating concepts. I am considering teaching Medical Biology at the graduate level when I'm finished with school, etc.

The_Liquid_Laser
10-10-2008, 12:44 PM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

I usually focus on trying to get to know a person first, and if they ask my opinion on something then I usually explain my thought process. After a while people who like that sort of thing realize I am knowledgable about a lot of things and start asking my opinion about more things. Basically I try to start off slow and let the process snowball.

Haight
10-10-2008, 01:12 PM
If someone asks for my help in explaining something, I'll very much oblige in most cases--because if you can teach it, you also better understand it yourself.Word to your mother.

Ilah
10-10-2008, 04:56 PM
Philosophically, I am very much in favor of the idea of sharing knowledge. In practice though I am not so good at getting my thoughts accross to other people. I have been working on the and I think I am getting better at it, but it still takes quite a bit of effort.

I would not deliberately withhold knowledge from someone unless they were particularly nasty to me. However, since it does take time and effort for me to give an explaination I would like to know that it would at least be something the person is interested in knowing. Most people aren't interested in knowing the process of how I made something. Most people are not interested in the types of books I read. If I start to share this information in the course of normal conversation people often look a little board.

I also identify with the problem of being accused of arogant for sharing information. Also it can be concidered rude to correct someone, especially if it is some stranger we overhear giving wrong information.

I also have some problems with the knowledge v. sympathy thing. I had an experience from a co-worker who was always coming to me telling about how stressed she was. I shared my knowledge with her of different relaxation techniques, but she always left seeming annoyed. I was very puzzled until someone explained that she didn't want advice, she wanted sympathy. Not only was my advice unwanted, I am looked down on for giving advice instead of sympathy.

So I am a little cautious sometimes in giving out information, unless it is wanted.

Ilah

ThatGirl
10-10-2008, 06:47 PM
I think ThatGirl has something to prove, to whom I have no idea.

I was thinking about the phrase The Persuit of Knowledge and it got me to thinking.

Why is knowledge a persuit? I personally don't like to share my knowledge for the fact that I believe I may somehow create a bias in someones interpretation. I like to observe how people interperate because it shows me the depths of who they are. Likewise I think that people knowing how I think can lead to misinterpretations as to who I am so I keep my knowledge on lock down to avoid sharing too much about my real views.

Then I got to thinking about how knowledge is earned not just given. To expand my own I really have to pry sometimes. Knowledge is not easilly attainable. Look at colleges and how much they charge for education. Even on the forum here it seems that you only get imput if someone is trying to help or sway you, but little knowledge is given for the sake of being given.

Why is knowledge that so many people posess a comodity. Would not the world do betting in having all resouces given.

It truely is a persuit that many have to work hard to attain. That really hinders what we are capable of.

But then I wonder if ignorance is bliss and how people who are not spiritual alter their actions for the sake of knowledge as much as people alter their actions for the sake of god, giving knowledge the same sacred respect that people give to spiritual icons. I wonder the value of the two.


Just thinking

Anja
10-10-2008, 06:56 PM
I find it interesting that most of the responses classified the sharing of knowledge as "helping" someone.

So. Would you say something more about this?

BlackOp
10-10-2008, 06:57 PM
The glory of God's mercy is revealed in natural evil as a call back that restrains and removes moral evil from the hearts of men.

Ignorant people are dangerous, but you disarm them by winning them over to your side through education.

Why do you think God wants everyone to be intelligent?

There is NO evil in nature. We just project our moral fantasies on it.

Winning someone over is a form of manipulation. I'm not so sure my "truth" is the truth...I possibly could be instilling a more complex set of lies. Ignorant people tend to be the happiest. Lighting things on fire/smashing things to bits can be quite cathartic. Why would I want them to be more miserable? Half the people in this country are on meds to make them "stupider"....my selfishness is saving the others money. This is my inadvertent contribution to our species.

I was joking about "god" wanting anything.......people want things. If God exists, it already has everything.

Aimahn
10-10-2008, 07:16 PM
I think the bias aspect is what Jack Flak was hinting at and I understand that aspect fully. I think though that there needs to be sort of a mutual understanding that there is equal footing so to speak(no dismisal based purely on jealousy or perceived stupidity), that is easier said than done and it is hard to find people like that.

I think though when you are in a situation such as this, the willingness to share some of what you think may be "biased" knowledge is much greater because you value and don't necessarily forcefully try and change someones interpretation. You also trust that there will be more a mutual exchange of knowledge and insight and have a sense of striving towards something higher like actually "understanding" something instead of making arbitrary judgments/conclusions.

In terms of why it seems that a lot of this knowledge is guarded I would have to say that is more a case of an "open mindedness" barrier. I maybe should have sort of prefaced this by saying I am talking more on a 1 v 1 basis rather than a more collective or group/community oriented way. I think generally though I sort of understand where you are coming from, I think just observing and seeing someones thought processes for what it is and benefiting from that without having an intention of altering it is a pleasure we should all have the opportunity to have. Many of us however have seen how many barriers there are IRL that sort of deter us from being as open.

Metamorphosis
10-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Unless I think it would harm me in some way, or give them an edge over me...very generous.

ThatGirl
10-11-2008, 12:33 AM
Thanks guys for the insightful responses,


This forum rocks.

YourLocalJesus
10-11-2008, 12:46 AM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

I'm very likely to do so in real life. I'm actually studying to become a teacher in english and history, at what we call "gymnasial level" here in Sweden. Students attending the "gymnasium" are between 16 and 19-20. I might continue my studies in pedagogy and go for a PhD if i'm good enough. As it is, i'm the top student in my class of 40, though.

And yes, there is knowledge that I don't speak of. Mostly about mysticism, ancient religions and other stuff I find interesting, but not really worth wasting anyones time with. And quite frankly, I don't have anyone to talk about a lot of that stuff with. People who have read as much as I have about celtic mythology and the like are mostly weirdos who actually believe in that shit. There is probably lots of hidden pockets in various subjects that I never get to discuss. It's mostly because I never talk to someone who's enthusiastic about such things.

ygolo
10-11-2008, 06:33 AM
I find it interesting that most of the responses classified the sharing of knowledge as "helping" someone.

So. Would you say something more about this?

I am guessing she is implying that we may actually be hindering someone by not letting them figure things out on their own.

There is some truth to that.

Jane Goodall and all.

FDG
10-11-2008, 06:40 AM
I would say that I am fairly generous, unless I have something pressing to do.

In high-school and college, I vastly preferred explaining homework solutions to other people than doing my own homework.

LOL. Same here.

whatever
10-11-2008, 07:08 AM
I enjoy telling people about things about which I'm enthusiastic- which means that I occasionally wonder if I've managed to bore customers by telling them ALL about wines, or boring my poor family and friends half to death by enthusiastically sharing any new bit of information I've learned. I've been told that the fact that I present this knowlege with the enthusiasm of a 5 year old though makes the compulsive dispensation of information signifigantly more tolerable :D

I just like talking about things I find interesting :blush:

Owl
10-11-2008, 08:18 AM
There is NO evil in nature. We just project our moral fantasies on it.

Winning someone over is a form of manipulation. I'm not so sure my "truth" is the truth...I possibly could be instilling a more complex set of lies. Ignorant people tend to be the happiest. Lighting things on fire/smashing things to bits can be quite cathartic. Why would I want them to be more miserable? Half the people in this country are on meds to make them "stupider"....my selfishness is saving the others money. This is my inadvertent contribution to our species.

I was joking about "god" wanting anything.......people want things. If God exists, it already has everything.

Happiness is the effect of believing you possess that which is good. Thus, an ignorant person may believe he possesses the good and be made happy by this belief without knowing his possessions are not good. But a distinction can be made between happiness and lasting happiness, and the ignoramus will soon discover that his possessions fail to satisfy, and his happiness will fade.

BlackOp
10-11-2008, 08:46 AM
Happiness is the effect of believing you possess that which is good. Thus, an ignorant person may believe he possesses the good and be made happy by this belief without knowing his possessions are not good. But a distinction can be made between happiness and lasting happiness, and the ignoramus will soon discover that his possessions fail to satisfy, and his happiness will fade.

Who determines anothers requirement for happiness? The fact you have to 'believe" you possess happiness makes one think it is a manufactured emotion. To me, happiness is forgetting everything I have experienced/learned and just BE. It doesnt happen very often. You will never see bliss like playing with a three year old...and he doesnt give a rats ass about Jesus. He's never heard of him....and doesnt require a stringent set of guidelines. He doesnt care about sustaining it either....nor do I. Its just a moment, stamped in time. There is something beautiful in that......We just get greedy and expect it every waking moment. We then look to manufacture the feeling and every moment thats not perfect lends itself to pretending its present....

niffer
10-11-2008, 09:27 AM
I don't randomly spout out info everywhere I go, only if someone is actually curious or needs help. And unless they've recently pissed me off, I'd be willing to give them as much knowledge or help or explaining as they'd like, unless I was at a life-or-death level of busyness.

burkeus
10-11-2008, 11:39 AM
In terms of why it seems that a lot of this knowledge is guarded I would have to say that is more a case of an "open mindedness" barrier. I maybe should have sort of prefaced this by saying I am talking more on a 1 v 1 basis rather than a more collective or group/community oriented way.

To me, the second sentence here (above) is precisely the reason that the first sentence is problematic. In other words, the open-mindedness barrier is the direct result of being unable to discern between the 1 to 1 basis and the group. If I know the context that I'm dealing with, I can be much more open-minded in my interaction with others. I guess I've always had this problem, though now I'm just aware of it in a completely different context than before. Being unable to discern has been and continues to be the core issue with which I struggle, regardless of context.

Jeximo
10-11-2008, 04:38 PM
I'll only divulge information when the information when I believe the other person could follow. In general, I would say most can't follow. However; the inability to follow is potentially related to my inability to explain more clearly. Doubt it, but it's possible haha. I can usually identify one's type pretty quickly. Found me an INTP the other night at a party, oh em gee. We broke out into deep conversation almost immediately, it was awesome.

LostInNerSpace
10-12-2008, 07:41 PM
Found me an INTP the other night at a party, oh em gee. We broke out into deep conversation almost immediately, it was awesome.

I went to Germany in February to visit a software company. It just happened that there were two other INTPs there at that time. I rarely have conversations that long with anybody. Yep, it was awesome.

Sinister Scribe
10-12-2008, 08:08 PM
I tend not to indulge information in others unless it's of an unpersonal nature. However, if someone asks me about something I'm interested in, I will talk at them until they tell me to shut up... and even then I may not stop. However, if someone wants to get information out of me that I'd rather not give out... well, good luck trying to get me to talk.

blanclait
10-12-2008, 09:13 PM
Well.. depending of how i see a potential in that person i may give out knowledge.
most cases its nothing special, i tend to not give out "the little important things" easily.

SonnyCheeba
10-12-2008, 10:58 PM
I rarely enjoy much more in life than sharing my knowledge. It is a large part of my social interaction I would say. However, that doesnt prevent me from regretting it being used in a way that is not to my liking or makes me feel it has been cheapened.

sandwich
10-13-2008, 07:59 AM
I jealously guard my knowledge from the unwashed masses. It is often necessary for me to feign ignorance in order to avoid such "teaching" moments.

Synarch
10-14-2008, 08:51 AM
So generous that I have a tendency to talk way too much about something while in the back of my head I know they don't care. Compelled. To. Explain.

gomi
10-16-2008, 08:13 PM
Most INTPs, I believe, want the knowledge in the minds of those they're in contact with to be sound. Immature INTPs, like myself as a kid/teenager, aren't subtle about it and excel at irritating others. These days I try to make knowledge inviting, like cake, and you can take a bite if you like.

Mmm...golden, spongey, knowledge-cake...

NoahFence
10-16-2008, 08:23 PM
I guard my knowledge from others because I am of the impression that they don't want to hear it and will have no clue how to stop me once I get going, so they will stand there until I realize they wish they could extricate themselves from the situation, which of course just makes me upset. "Well why'd you f***ing ask, then, jerk??"

This is why it's dangerous to get me started. A lot of pressure can build up over time. Just let sleeping dragons lie, people.

ZiL
10-16-2008, 09:51 PM
I love to explain/teach things. But my experience is that most aren't as interested in what I have to say as I am, so I only share if I think the other person cares to hear it or asks about something.

LeonardoLestat
11-09-2008, 08:57 AM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?

I don't teach. I don't lecture.
I don't like to do it.

A natural habit for me, though, is sitting down and cooperating in designing "the plan":yes:

GargoylesLegacy
11-09-2008, 06:33 PM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?
If I see that a Person really has the WILL and the PATIENCE to learn Something, I will teach them. But I ask from them to be very focused and not making me run after them (you know like "So, are we gonna continue today?"). Also the Person *should* be a bit closer that just some random Person from the Street. The closer a Person is to me, the more "Patience" and "Passion" I will have.

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?
Yes. Just simply because I don't want to tell all of my "Tricks". I still need to be somewhat mysterious and interesting, don't I? :tongue:

G-Virus
11-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Knowledge is not meant to be secret or horded . . . Ask and you shall recieve, hell if its interesting, you might still recieve even if you are ignoring me :devil:

lane777
11-09-2008, 10:25 PM
Willing to school if others question. Unless asked, me no share; through my observations, people tend to buck invaluable suggestions/information when the information was offered without request, because they consider it to be a condescending action.

lane777
11-09-2008, 10:39 PM
So generous that I have a tendency to talk way too much about something while in the back of my head I know they don't care. Compelled. To. Explain.

haha

I like the yammering kind

:popc1:

Amargith
11-09-2008, 11:35 PM
I enjoy sharing knowledge as I myself am always on the look out to learn more. Therefore it is sometimes hard to understand that you are perceived as a 'know it all' when you enthusiastically share what you know. And although it may be true that you shouldn't give unsolicited advice, it is sometimes very hard to resist. One of the subjects I'm often consulted on is Cats and it is for me very hard to not give unsolicited advice on the topic, as the ignorance of people very often harms the animal who cannot speak for itself.

Darjur
11-10-2008, 01:11 AM
If I'm confronted with an [b]inteligent[b/] specific question, I won't hold back, I'll tell everything. If I'm asked stupid questions or if I have to repeat myself, clear up terms that I should expect you know. My patience will die out soon.

As a rule of thumb, if I have to repeat myself (not a clarification of certain circumstances) a third time to someone, he needs to gtfo out of my eyesight.



Yes and no. In a debate or an argument, no, I'll just say exactly that, which I believe to be needed to being told. If someone genuinely interests me in an academical point thought, I'll answer any questions whatsoever about any subject.

Willfrey
11-10-2008, 02:59 AM
It really depends on the subject. I'm very generous with my knowledge when it comes to things that interest me.

On the other hand at work more often than not I'm explaining things that I had to figure out for myself. I used to be a shipping clerk before I got promoted, and training my dullard replacement on the software, shipping techniques, and customs regulations was painfully monotonous. I get extremely agitated whenever he consults me on things I've already explained.

sleeptowin
11-11-2008, 02:14 PM
How likley are you to sit down and explain or teach?
If the other party is likely to benefit from this knowledge, or just find it interesting, I will teach... that is, if I feel like it.

Are there certain parts of your knowledge that you gaurd from others?
Of course, there's no point in letting everyone know what you know.