College football

[Lateralus]

It's been a good weekend, but could have been better. Mizzou kicked the living shit out of Nebraska, but Kansas somehow managed to avoid losing to Iowa State. I guess you can't have it all.

[Jeffster]

RAIDER
POWER

[Lateralus]

I heard someone say Tech's offense is better than Mizzou's. I laughed.

[Jeffster]

I heard someone say Tech's offense is better than Mizzou's. I laughed.

Gary Pinkel's deal with the devil must be set to expire pretty soon, right?

[Lateralus]

Gary Pinkel's deal with the devil must be set to expire pretty soon, right?

MU embarrasses TTU

Tech is glad Mizzou isn't on their schedule this season.

[Jeffster]

Tech is glad Mizzou isn't on their schedule this season.

Well, DUH. In other news, water is wet.

The only redeeming thing about that game was the humor of the aggie fans around me at WildWings telling me "Tech sucks!" exactly one week after that Tech team had beaten the aggies 35-7.

[Lateralus]

Well, DUH. In other news, water is wet.

The only redeeming thing about that game was the humor of the aggie fans around me at WildWings telling me "Tech sucks!" exactly one week after that Tech team had beaten the aggies 35-7.
Aggie fans have never been noted for their intelligence.

[Lateralus]

How about those Red Raiders, Jeffster? They pulled out an OT victory, at home, over Nebraska. This is the same Nebraska team that Mizzou absolutely fucking humiliated in Lincoln last weekend (52-17).

I'm so glad that Sooner fans will STFU...well, at least for a week.

[Jeffster]

I sure am glad I remembered to take my blood pressure medication. :happy2:

[Neo Genesis]

How about those Red Raiders, Jeffster? They pulled out an OT victory, at home, over Nebraska. This is the same Nebraska team that Mizzou absolutely fucking humiliated in Lincoln last weekend (52-17).

NOT a good game. At least we won, though. Phew.

I'm so glad that Sooner fans will STFU...well, at least for a week.

I'd rather the UT fans shut up, not that they ever will anyway.:dry:

[kelric]

I'd rather the UT fans shut up, not that they ever will anyway.:dry:

:hi:

45-35!

It *was* a very good game, but I admit I'd not be so happy about that had OU won... but... they didn't :).

[Lateralus]

I'd rather the UT fans shut up, not that they ever will anyway.:dry:
They'll be shutting up next week.

Mizzou @ Texas

[Jeffster]

NOT a good game. At least we won, though. Phew.


Actually, I can look back and say that if I was a neutral fan, I'd think it was a very good game. It was quite exciting. Of course, as a Tech fan, it was an excruciating excitement that had me kicking the chairs at the table I was sitting at, and very close to picking up my cup and throwing it. Thankfully I didn't, and I'm therefore still welcome to dine and watch football at that establishment. ;)

Oh well, at least next week is a bye week.

Errrrrrrrrr I mean we play the aggies. :D

[Jeffster]

They'll be shutting up next week.

Mizzou @ Texas

Mizzou's gotta get past the mighty OSU Cowboys first. Remember, their coach is a man. He's (over) forty. He's not a kid. ;)

[kelric]

They'll be shutting up next week.

Mizzou @ Texas

Ha Ha. That wouldn't be *completely* tragic - I'd rather Mizzou beat them than OU. I'm a Texas fan first, but I like seeing Mizzou win too (I've lived in St. Louis for 15 years or so, so some of it's rubbed off). But still, I'd prefer a UT#1, Mizzou#2 end to the year :D.

I would like to see Chase Daniel win the Heisman, though.

[Lateralus]

Mizzou's gotta get past the mighty OSU Cowboys first. Remember, their coach is a man. He's (over) forty. He's not a kid. ;)
Yeah...I'm not worried.

[ygolo]

It's just three points. Don't tell me, you're not sweating.

Edit: Make that -4 points.

[Jeffster]

Yeah, I wonder if Lat has started worrying yet. :whistling:

[ygolo]

Especially with that interception.

[Lateralus]

Pathetic. That's all I have to say about that game.

The Titans play the Chiefs next week. So at least I'll get to see one of my teams humiliate someone.

[Jeffster]

And I wouldn't be surprised at all if Missouri goes into Austin next week and beats the Horns. This is what I love about college football, and the Big 12. It's exciting, you don't know what's gonna happen. :D

[ygolo]

Yes. I begrudgingly admit the Big 12 is a very strong conference this year.

[Jeffster]

Elsewhere, Georgia Tech beat Gardner Webb (who?) 10-7.

Just another crazy day in college football. :D

[Neo Genesis]

:hi:

45-35!

It *was* a very good game, but I admit I'd not be so happy about that had OU won... but... they didn't :).

Let me rephrase that. Its not so much the fans that irritate me, but rather all the local radio stations and the Austin American Statesman that really make me cringe. I mean, c'mon, UT is not always the best team in the country. Its just absurd how much they consistently overrate UT in the Austin area. Its just so arrogant. /rant.

To be honest, I liked UT before I moved to Austin. Since then, perhaps one of my least favorite Big 12 teams.

@Jeffster: Exactly my reaction as well.

[pure_mercury]

Wow, what a day. What are we looking at with the next polls? Does Alabama go to #1, even though they didn't play? Or Texas? Penn St. up to #3?

[Neo Genesis]

Wow, what a day. What are we looking at with the next polls? Does Alabama go to #1, even though they didn't play? Or Texas? Penn St. up to #3?

I imagine it'd be somewhat similar to this:

1) Alabama
2) Texas
3) Penn State
4) Oklahoma
5) USC
6) Texas Tech
7) Florida
8) BYU
9) Oklahoma St.
10) Missouri (Maybe LSU)

Shit this is tough. Its hard trying to guess how they're going to vote, Texas and Alabama may switch. I don't think Oklahoma will fall too far, but may fall farther than I put. And as much as I hate to say it, Tech may actually move backwards in the polls. USC had 5 turnovers, but still won 28-0, which in my opinion actually helps them. BYU may move up more.

[Lateralus]

And I wouldn't be surprised at all if Missouri goes into Austin next week and beats the Horns. This is what I love about college football, and the Big 12. It's exciting, you don't know what's gonna happen. :D
If they play anything like they did last night...beating themselves...they've got no chance.

[kelric]

Let me rephrase that. Its not so much the fans that irritate me, but rather all the local radio stations and the Austin American Statesman that really make me cringe. I mean, c'mon, UT is not always the best team in the country. Its just absurd how much they consistently overrate UT in the Austin area. Its just so arrogant. /rant.


Yeah, I could believe that. UT is consistently good, and *among* the best teams in the country, but for most of recent (15-20 years, anyway) history, there have been other teams that have been *better* - both in an individual year (except 2005) and over time. Teams like Florida, Oklahoma, USC, Nebraska, etc.

I don't live in Austin, so I don't see all of that stuff. My fan-hood comes from when I did live there (until I was 9), when both of my parents went to school there.

I imagine it'd be somewhat similar to this:

1) Alabama
2) Texas
3) Penn State
4) Oklahoma
5) USC
6) Texas Tech
7) Florida
8) BYU
9) Oklahoma St.
10) Missouri (Maybe LSU)

Shit this is tough. Its hard trying to guess how they're going to vote, Texas and Alabama may switch. I don't think Oklahoma will fall too far, but may fall farther than I put. And as much as I hate to say it, Tech may actually move backwards in the polls. USC had 5 turnovers, but still won 28-0, which in my opinion actually helps them. BYU may move up more.

That seems pretty reasonable to me - Oklahoma State clearly should be above Mizzou now (much as I hate to say it). Tech could easily slip beneath Florida, at least. Florida made a very good LSU team look bad, and Tech barely hung on to beat a pretty mediocre Nebraska team. I wouldn't be surprised to see your list pretty much as-is, except with Tech in between Oklahoma State and Mizzou. As much as I hate to say it, after watching Florida (sort of:D) last night, I can't say I'd put anyone as a favorite to beat them on the field. I'd love to see them play Alabama, Texas, Penn State, USC, or Oklahoma, though.

[MacGuffin]

This week's AP Top 25:

1. Texas (39) 6-0 1,599
2. Alabama (26) 6-0 1,582
3. Penn State 7-0 1,492
4. Oklahoma 5-1 1,306
5. Florida 5-1 1,284
6. USC 4-1 1,247
7. Texas Tech 6-0 1,210
8. Oklahoma State 6-0 1,184
9. Brigham Young 6-0 1,131
10. Georgia 5-1 1,081
11. Missouri 5-1 984
12. Ohio State 6-1 908
13. LSU 4-1 893
14. Utah 7-0 834
15. Boise State 5-0 714
16. Kansas 5-1 620
17. Virginia Tech 5-1 540
18. North Carolina 5-1 416
19. South Florida 5-1 397
20. Michigan State 6-1 371
21. Wake Forest 4-1 330
22. Vanderbilt 5-1 258
23. Pittsburgh 4-1 182
24. Ball State 7-0 166
25. California 4-1 115

[Lateralus]

I'm still pissed about that game. Daniel overthrew 3 or 4 receivers that game, something he almost never does. And Danario Alexander...fuck...that ball that bounced out of his hands, into the hands of OSU, that was a game changer.

[pure_mercury]

If Penn State runs the table, they almost certainly will be in the BCS Championship Game. That is pretty cool. I am a mild Penn State fan (I like to see my home state do well, and I have several friends there), but I am not a JoePa worshiper. I'd like to see him go out with a championship this year and retire, or announce that 2009 will be his last season.

[MacGuffin]

I'm still pissed about that game. Daniel overthrew 3 or 4 receivers that game, something he almost never does. And Danario Alexander...fuck...that ball that bounced out of his hands, into the hands of OSU, that was a game changer.

The O line got whupped. Mizzou got away from the run too much, but it seemed they were getting killed in the backfield whenever they tried (other than Daniel running).

P.S. that last INT wasn't an INT:

http://www.tigerboard.com/uimages/user15874_1.jpg

[Lateralus]

Seeing that image just pisses me off. They were going to score on that drive.

[Jeffster]

RED RAIDERS 8-0 BABY! BRING ON THE HORNS!! :nice:

Lat, I didn't see any of the video from Columbia, did Colorado's bus break down and they didn't make it to the stadium?

[MacGuffin]

Colorado sux and Mizzou was pissed.

[Lateralus]

Mizzou is going to blow out every other team they face...until the Big 12 Championship game, where their shitty defense will be exposed again.

[Jeffster]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

(I'm having a bit of a hard time coming down. I thought maybe mbtic would help me fall asleep.) ;)

[EffEmDoubleyou]

GREAT game tonight. That poor Texas DB that dropped the interception is going to have to live with that forever. I think Texas Tech will probably move up to #3, although I think they would probably get beat by USC and maybe Oklahoma. We'll find out about Oklahoma in a couple of weeks.

[Lateralus]

I was impressed by Tech, but there's no way they beat Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

[kelric]

I was impressed by Tech, but there's no way they beat Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

I'm tempted to agree. That was a very hard game to watch (as a Texas fan). Tech played really well, especially in the first half, but Texas played really poorly until partway through the third quarter (some of which was due to how well Tech was playing, no doubt). Still, I saw a couple of easy plays that Texas blew, each of which would likely have won the game for them - dropped passes, and especially the should-have-been-intercepted Harrell pass at the end of the game. I agree with FMW... that poor guy's got to feel bad. He catches that pass, and it's very likely Texas plays for the national title. Now? Pretty much no chance of that - and it's altogether likely that they won't make a BCS bowl game at all, even if they win out.

But, as they say, if you let a game hinge on one bad play, you can't be surprised when things don't go your way. Tech played well (and the crowd was *really* into it - looked like a fun place to be if you're a Tech fan), and it'll be interesting to see how things play out in the next few weeks. I'd give Tech a fair-to-good chance of beating Oklahoma State in Lubbock, but going to Norman to play OU is going to be tough for anyone to come out with a win. Of course, I'm hoping they lose both, so that Texas can still win the division anyway :D. No offense Jeff, I know you'd be hoping for the same if the situation was reversed :D.

[Neo Genesis]

Tech played well (and the crowd was *really* into it - looked like a fun place to be if you're a Tech fan)

It was insane. I had to keep reminding everyone around me that there still was another half to play. Both offenses didn't play as well as they should have, though. Tech could not move the ball in the red zone at all while Texas only moved the ball late in the game. Tech outplayed Texas, end of story. But that's the problem with trading field goals for touchdowns. Honestly, I'd be so pissed if Texas won, because we should have put the game away much earlier.

Also, Texas' punter kicks like a damn girl. THAT was irritating as hell.

[Jeffster]

10-0 BABY. :D

Gonna be a long two weeks waiting for that OU game.

[Fiver]

No SEC love in this thread?

[EffEmDoubleyou]

No SEC love in this thread?

But everyone not from an SEC school hates the SEC.

[ygolo]

I think Alabama is overrated and Texas Tech is the real deal this year.

The Red Raiders still have one tough game to go, while the Crimson Tide has a couple of patsies.

It will be hilarious to see the two in the BCS championship, if it happens.

[kelric]

I think Alabama is overrated and Texas Tech is the real deal this year.

The Red Raiders still have one tough game to go, while the Crimson Tide has a couple of patsies.

It will be hilarious to see the two in the BCS championship, if it happens.

I actually expect both of them to lose, tell you the truth. If both of them do win out, and they play each other in the championship game, I'd have to favor Tech. Tech is a great team... but I don't think they go into Norman and win, the way Oklahoma's been crushing everyone right and left lately (granted, not teams as good as Tech, but I wouldn't pick *anyone* to go to Norman and win now). If the game were in Lubbock I'd call it a toss-up (Tech was very impressive beating Oklahoma State). But not in Norman. Alabama is a very good team... a very good team that I think will lose to Florida in the SEC championship. I think the championship game will be:

Texas Tech/Oklahoma/Texas (whoever comes out on top, tiebreaker-wise, obviously Tech is on top if they beat Oklahoma)

vs.

Florida

I've got no clue who to pick as the winner of that game. Sentimentally, I'd pick Texas, but not confidently. USC's the only other team I'd give a good chance to beat any of those 4 on the field, but they won't get that chance - at least not in the championship game.

[Lateralus]

I know Mizzou hasn't lived up to expectations, but should they play Tech in the Big 12 Championship, don't just assume the Raiders are going to win. Mizzou has OWNED Texas Tech the last few times they've played. Mizzou just seems to be a bad matchup for Tech.

[kelric]

I know Mizzou hasn't lived up to expectations, but should they play Tech in the Big 12 Championship, don't just assume the Raiders are going to win. Mizzou has OWNED Texas Tech the last few times they've played. Mizzou just seems to be a bad matchup for Tech.

Hmm, that's true - they have done well against Tech lately. Given that matchup, I'd *like* to see Mizzou win, too. Mizzou has another advantage... the conference championship is in KC this year, and although I'm sure a lot of Tech/Texas/Oklahoma fans would come, KC's just a couple of hours from Columbia - not quite but almost a home game.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

Texas Tech/Oklahoma/Texas (whoever comes out on top, tiebreaker-wise, obviously Tech is on top if they beat Oklahoma)

vs.

Florida

I've got no clue who to pick as the winner of that game. Sentimentally, I'd pick Texas, but not confidently. USC's the only other team I'd give a good chance to beat any of those 4 on the field, but they won't get that chance - at least not in the championship game.

I agree with your analysis. And I think USC would beat Tech, Oklahoma, and Texas. They're just KILLING people. Florida is red hot, maybe not them.

[Willfrey]

Watching all the big-confrence action really makes me pissed off that my hometown team (BSU) is in the WAC. Jesus the WAC sucks. The only moment of glory we had was when we took it to Oregon's house. Now we have to sit, wait out the last couple of absurdly easy matchups we got and cross our fingers for a generous BCS Bowl matchup. :steam:

[kelric]

Watching all the big-confrence action really makes me pissed off that my hometown team (BSU) is in the WAC. Jesus the WAC sucks. The only moment of glory we had was when we took it to Oregon's house. Now we have to sit, wait out the last couple of absurdly easy matchups we got and cross our fingers for a generous BCS Bowl matchup. :steam:

Heh - I grew up in Boise (I actually remember the installation of the smurf-turf). BSU has really been enormously fortunate to be in the position they're in these days - they've only even been in division 1-A for what... 10 years or so? I know that when I was in college they were 1-AA (as was Idaho, where I went to college). Back in those days Idaho was running up a 10-year winning streak on BSU. Times have changed. And for the "moment of glory" - all you have to do is go back a few years to the BSU/Oklahoma Fiesta bowl. One of the all-time great games in college football history - can't get too greedy :).

[EffEmDoubleyou]

Watching all the big-confrence action really makes me pissed off that my hometown team (BSU) is in the WAC. Jesus the WAC sucks. The only moment of glory we had was when we took it to Oregon's house. Now we have to sit, wait out the last couple of absurdly easy matchups we got and cross our fingers for a generous BCS Bowl matchup. :steam:

I feel for Ball State, but if they want to be in the mix, it's incumbent on their AD to be very aggressive when putting together their nonconference schedule. Scheduling big time teams and beating them will help immeasurably. To draw a parallel with basketball, that's why Temple consistently makes the NCAA tournament despite playing in a mediocre conference and rarely winning 20 games a season...they always play a murderous nonconference schedule.

[kelric]

I feel for Ball State, but if they want to be in the mix, it's incumbent on their AD to be very aggressive when putting together their nonconference schedule. Scheduling big time teams and beating them will help immeasurably. To draw a parallel with basketball, that's why Temple consistently makes the NCAA tournament despite playing in a mediocre conference and rarely winning 20 games a season...they always play a murderous nonconference schedule.

He's talking about Boise State (the other BSU) :D - but it applies even more to Ball State, now that you mention it.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

He's talking about Boise State (the other BSU) :D - but it applies even more to Ball State, now that you mention it.

:doh:

[Lateralus]

I'm embarrassed for Texas Tech. This is really, really ugly...but to be honest, not completely unexpected. They're down 64-14 as I type this message. When Oklahoma is executing like this, there's nobody in college that can beat them. I'd like to see them play the Rams or Lions. It might be a good game.

Oklahoma was my preseason pick to win the national title.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

I'm curious as to how people reconcile this with their vote. Everyone's talking about how you can't have Texas behind Oklahoma because they beat 'em straight up. But Tech beat Texas, Texas beat Oklahoma, and Oklahoma beat Tech. No way you can choose between those three based simply on head to head. Whoever you rank highest will have been beaten by one of the other two. To me, that means you ignore head to head and rank Oklahoma highest.

That said, I think all three of them, plus Florida and USC, beat Alabama.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

Also, somebody better run over to Jeffster's house and make sure his head isn't in the oven.

[kelric]

I'm embarrassed for Texas Tech. This is really, really ugly...but to be honest, not completely unexpected.

Yeah - you have to feel bad for them... those TT defensive guys are just exhausted, you can tell. I didn't think it would be *this* bad, but pretty much nobody goes into Norman and wins - especially with how well Oklahoma's been playing lately. That part of it's no surprise.

Oh my... that was ugly... the TT kickoff return guy almost couldn't find the ball in the end zone... I think I'm going to go to bed... I was hoping Oklahoma would win a close game (I'm a Texas fan), but this is just brutal.

Sorry Jeff and Neo - looks like Tech's chance at a championship are over :(. (Although they can still win the Big 12 - it looks unlikely)

[Lateralus]

I'd like to see Oklahoma play Florida in the title game. I'm not sure if USC has the offense to hang with either of those two. Then again, they might not need to hang, they might pitch a shut out. Their D is sick.

I'm so glad Penn State lost. The title game should actually be worth watching.

Edit: What's the worst beating a top 5 team has ever taken? This has to be up there.

[kelric]

I'm curious as to how people reconcile this with their vote. Everyone's talking about how you can't have Texas behind Oklahoma because they beat 'em straight up. But Tech beat Texas, Texas beat Oklahoma, and Oklahoma beat Tech. No way you can choose between those three based simply on head to head. Whoever you rank highest will have been beaten by one of the other two. To me, that means you ignore head to head and rank Oklahoma highest.

That said, I think all three of them, plus Florida and USC, beat Alabama.

Yeah... as much as I hate to say it, your logic makes sense. The only thing Texas really has going for them is that of the three teams, they won their game on a neutral field, and *almost* won in Lubbock. Both Oklahoma's and Tech's wins came at home in front of loud, noisy, partisan crowds. Another note however, is that Oklahoma's played tougher non-conference teams than either Texas or Tech.

Although I agree... I think Oklahoma, Texas, and Florida all beat Alabama on a neutral field (and Florida will get the chance)... I don't see USC much, but they're likely in the same category... if Tech played the way they had until this game, I'd say the same for them. If I *had* to pick a #1 vs. #2, I'd say Florida vs. Oklahoma right now - with Texas a very close and worthy 2.5. Anyway, bedtime for me. G'night.

[kelric]

Edit: What's the worst beating a top 5 team has ever taken? This has to be up there.

There have been a few pretty ugly pastings like this in bowl games... USC v. Oklahoma a few years back, and I'm recalling a very ugly Nebraska-Florida game a few years before that too... and whatever bowl sells out and brings in Notre Dame to play sacrificial lamb to a better team... again :D. Okay, bedtime... really this time. Gnight.

Actually, ESPN had a graphic up on a story today that listed the worst losses by top-2 ranked teams today:
Margin Teams Date
48 No. 1 Army 48, No. 2 Notre Dame 0 11/10/45
44 No. 5 Oklahoma 65, No. 2 Texas Tech 21 11/22/08
43 Holy Cross 55, No. 1 Boston College 12 11/28/42
38 No. 1 Nebraska 62, No. 2 Florida 24 1/2/96 (Fiesta Bowl)
36 No. 1 USC 55, No. 2 Oklahoma 19 1/4/05 (Orange Bowl)

I remembered better than I'd thought on the USC/Oklahoma and Nebraska/Florida blowouts - but this one last night was worse.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

Although I agree... I think Oklahoma, Texas, and Florida all beat Alabama on a neutral field (and Florida will get the chance)... I don't see USC much, but they're likely in the same category... if Tech played the way they had until this game, I'd say the same for them. If I *had* to pick a #1 vs. #2, I'd say Florida vs. Oklahoma right now - with Texas a very close and worthy 2.5. Anyway, bedtime for me. G'night.

I'm not a fan, but I see USC all the time because of where I live, and they are definitely in that class. Like Lateralus said, the offense isn't QUITE the caliber of these other teams, but they do have three legit tailbacks and the defense pitched three shutouts in a row. I agree with both of you, if I had to pick a national championship game right now, I'd pit Oklahoma and Florida. Alabama's ranking is just a reflection of the fact that nobody will ever drop a team from #1 unless they lose. Which is ridiculous.

I love how Oklahoma put in the backup QB so they can throw without looking like they're running it up, hah. I'm off to watch my tape of Syracuse beating some Irish ass. I can't believe I wasn't home for that. :doh:

[Jeffster]

Also, somebody better run over to Jeffster's house and make sure his head isn't in the oven.

:laugh: Nah, life goes on, man. Tomorrow I'm gonna have fun at the Renaissance Festival with my family, and Monday I get to taunt my co-worker for being too chicken to bet on Oklahoma when he had the chance. This game sucked, but life is good.

[Neo Genesis]

I though OU was going to win, but I didn't think it'd be THAT bad. We got steamrolled.

I'm curious as to how people reconcile this with their vote. Everyone's talking about how you can't have Texas behind Oklahoma because they beat 'em straight up. But Tech beat Texas, Texas beat Oklahoma, and Oklahoma beat Tech. No way you can choose between those three based simply on head to head. Whoever you rank highest will have been beaten by one of the other two. To me, that means you ignore head to head and rank Oklahoma highest.

That said, I think all three of them, plus Florida and USC, beat Alabama.

I think it'd be a toss-up between Tech and Alabama, and USC is rather sporadic from week-to-week, so its difficult to determine how they'll play, but I don't think they deserve to be considered for the National Championship. And I say that as a lifelong 'SC fan (part of my bias against UT, Kelric). From what I've seen, USC reminds me very much of the Cowboys, in that they have alot of position-specific talent, yet don't seem to mesh well with each other. They seem soft on offense (too many horizontal runs/long passes), and on defense they appear to always go for the knock-out hit (don't get me wrong, I like it, it's just not a team mentality). OU/UT and Florida will make a great championship game.

I'd have liked for Tech to go, but after this game, there's no way I can even try to say they deserve it.

[Rajah]

http://www.deusterco.com/floridalogo.jpg

[ygolo]

I was wrong about Texas Tech, and hopefully they can pick up their morale against Baylor.

There is still the Oklahoma vs. Oklahoma State, and the Big 12 Championship game too.

I still say Alabama is overrated. I haven't been watching Florida, but I guess we'll find out how they fair against each other.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

That Gator looks awfully apprehensive. He's looking down at his feet like he's afraid a mouse is going to trip him up.

[Rajah]

That Gator looks awfully apprehensive. He's looking down at his feet like he's afraid a mouse is going to trip him up.*scowl*

He's just trying to make you feel comfortable so he can lure you in for the kill.

[Lateralus]

Actually, ESPN had a graphic up on a story today that listed the worst losses by top-2 ranked teams today:
Margin Teams Date
48 No. 1 Army 48, No. 2 Notre Dame 0 11/10/45
44 No. 5 Oklahoma 65, No. 2 Texas Tech 21 11/22/08
43 Holy Cross 55, No. 1 Boston College 12 11/28/42
38 No. 1 Nebraska 62, No. 2 Florida 24 1/2/96 (Fiesta Bowl)
36 No. 1 USC 55, No. 2 Oklahoma 19 1/4/05 (Orange Bowl)

I remembered better than I'd thought on the USC/Oklahoma and Nebraska/Florida blowouts - but this one last night was worse.
So before Tech scored that last TD, they were in line for the worst defeat by a #2 team, ever. I thought OU was going to make it 72-14, too.

[pure_mercury]

Man, don't Penn State look like assholes now?