ISTJs: Cooler than we thought? [Archive]

ajblaise

10-03-2008, 10:31 AM

-Overrepresented among both male and female small business owners compared with national sample.
-One of two most overrepresented female types in a substance abuse program.
-More frequent among African Americans.
-Among the four highest in college GPA.

ISTJ - Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging - Ransdell Associates (http://www.ransdellassociates.com/ISTJ.htm)

These things kind of surprised me when I read them.

Cimarron

10-03-2008, 12:10 PM

I don't see where you're going with this. Something like this? :

-Owning/operating a small business is cool.
-Admitting you have a drug problem, and trying to fix it, is cool. (Or that doing drugs in the first place is cool.)
-African Americans are cool.
-Having a high college GPA is cool.

You make an interesting collection of points. I didn't go to the link, though. That might have explained it. :D

Chris_in_Orbit

10-03-2008, 07:05 PM

who thought ISTJs were lame?

DigitalMethod

10-03-2008, 07:55 PM

I know a ISTJ in real life. He is pretty cool.

runvardh

10-03-2008, 08:15 PM

My ISTJ friend is excelent for conspiring with for halloween tricks. Making a group of young drunks panic in a barely lit park is priceless. :D

Lateralus

10-03-2008, 08:17 PM

GPA is a much better measure of your ability to follow instructions than your ability to think. So it makes sense that ISTJs would excel in that respect.

MacGuffin

10-03-2008, 08:32 PM

My wife is ISTJ, and when she's unhappy she embodies the worst aspects of ISTJdom ever!

She can still surprise me though. There's a lot going on that you won't be aware of.

Cimarron

10-03-2008, 08:48 PM

(Something that was mentioned on another thread and is relevant here: )
I'll just add, in passing, that personalities are complex things, obviously, so it's always hard to explain someone's personality as a whole. You can't really see the whole thing until you experience it firsthand. I guess...

Mondo

10-03-2008, 09:07 PM

All the ISTJs I know are cool people.
They can be a tad close-minded but they are fun people to talk to and play games with- especially on topics they are knowledgeable about.

Jack Flak

10-03-2008, 09:08 PM

ISTJs aren't really "James Caan" cool, ever. They can be cool in that ISTJ way. Like "Oh, no, he's cool, don't worry."

Jack Flak

10-03-2008, 09:09 PM

My wife is ISTJ, and when she's unhappy she embodies the worst aspects of ISTJdom ever!

She can still surprise me though. There's a lot going on that you won't be aware of.
So you're saying you agree that Leia is ISTJ.

YourLocalJesus

10-03-2008, 09:22 PM

I know a few cool ISTJ's. It's the only kind of SJ that I usually like.
I think ISTJ's are about as cool as INTJ's. That says a lot. Really love their practical view on things.

Bella

10-03-2008, 09:58 PM

"?"

10-03-2008, 10:27 PM

They're all listed here (http://www.discoveryourpersonality.com/abouttypes.html). I think that the ESTP stats are quite interesting as well.

animenagai

10-04-2008, 03:14 AM

Silently Honest

10-04-2008, 03:21 AM

Why wouldn't ISTJs be cool, doesn't that depend more on the person then his or her type? I'm pretty sure they're cool and lame ISTJs.

Hmm

10-04-2008, 03:25 AM

I dig 'em.

Silently Honest

10-04-2008, 03:27 AM

Me too suprisingly.

ArbiterDewey

10-04-2008, 07:48 PM

ISTJs are an interesting group to study. not that i think they'll match very well with my own type, but they are complexed creatures. i think the ISTJ is interesting in that they stand firm in what they believe in (social expectations etc.) and at the same time, earn to cut loose. an ISTJ at work and an ISTJ at a work party are 2 different people. i'll go as far to say that when an ISTJ goes nuts, they are very ENFP. i like the dynamics that an ISTJ chooses to juggle.

I have been told that at partys I go very much ENFP whenever I've had an adequate number of beers. I become talkative, emotional and have to hug everyone while playing the drunken name game. Also I spit out insults to the unprepared and insecure. :nice:

Good times...

EvanTheClown

10-04-2008, 08:41 PM

Not to mention, but brother, whenever you get pissed, you express yourself in a over-the-top ENFP balls to the wall, lets raise fire hell and brimstone kind of way.

And don't go taking that like a compliment or anything

Beat

10-04-2008, 09:04 PM

Not sure why anyone would have had the impression that ISTJs were ever anything less than really fucking cool...

:cheers:

Cenara

10-05-2008, 02:43 AM

One of my friends (that I talk with regularly) is an ISTJ. He's a cool dude. In work-mode I respect his focus and principles on the job; and when he's chilling...he's very humorous, down to earth and what not. Decent :)

Usehername

10-05-2008, 03:30 AM

Not sure why anyone would have had the impression that ISTJs were ever anything less than really fucking cool...

:cheers:

x2. I really like ISTJs, males and females. :wubbie:

alicia91

10-05-2008, 03:34 AM

I really like them too. They can be a bit hard to get to know, but once you do - they can be a lot of fun, and very intelligent. :)

dnivera

10-05-2008, 03:48 AM

Dear ISTJs,

Stop stressing out so don't you put our type into the 'overrepresented for chronic pain' and 'high risk for heart attack' categories.

Chill out already! Breathe! You know you're cool.

Love,
dnivera

PS. Well, in retrospect, I guess bank officers and financial managers are having a hard time now. All the more reason to take an extra chill pill dudes!

Anja

10-05-2008, 04:02 AM

As my husband slowly slips into the world of instant past, sometimes he forgets he's ISTJ, and for a brief moment he's KEWL! C'mon Alzheimer's and bring it on!

Cimarron

10-05-2008, 11:56 AM

They can be a bit hard to get to know...
Probably true. I don't generally make myself easy to get to know. Strangers may stay strangers...

"?"

10-05-2008, 02:32 PM

Not sure why anyone would have had the impression that ISTJs were ever anything less than really fucking cool...:cheers:Much was based on the stereotypes and prejudices of the average person considering themselves intuitives. For years, and even still today but not as much, it wasn't cool to be anything but intuitive on the forums. It has taken a long time, but people are begining to realize the rareness in type and one being better than the other are mere myths.

Cimarron

10-05-2008, 02:46 PM

...For years...
Years? How old is this forum? The oldest join date looks like 2007, from what I can remember. :huh:

Anja

10-05-2008, 06:40 PM

I don't know about the statement that they are hard to get to know. If Alicia is talking about their deeper thoughts and feelings I can see that, for sure. Sometimes I'm uncertain whether they are there at all. His feelings range seems pretty basic to me.

But as far as what they value, it is firmly stamped upon each unwasted act of the day! That's the way I "read" my spouse.

And when it comes to feelings I genuinely believe that he is puzzled by what he is feeling and what to do about it. He has several "tells" that have proven accurate over time. He actually scratches his head, cartoon-like when he feels stymied. There's that jaw-twitch thing. And when it comes to fight or flight he rapidly finds something in his environment which needs "fixing" and sets himself to it pronto. Eye contact goes out the window when the first flicker of anger begins to dawn, with the eye contact gradually increasing in intensity as the anger builds, until it becomes a hostile stare accompanied with, "No. I don't feel angry."

Time for Anja to take a walk.

I just had a thought: In today's society it is often considered to be uncool to be steadfast and dilligent in pursuing what one believes. Could this be a piece of the idea that ISTJs are uncool?

Usehername

10-05-2008, 08:29 PM

Years? How old is this forum? The oldest join date looks like 2007, from what I can remember. :huh:

I think it was spoken just generally. There's a lot of type forums out there.

Cimarron

10-06-2008, 12:07 AM

I thought he meant for decades past, but that seemed unrealistic. So I figured he must have meant this forum. Other forums...oh. Not that important, anyway.

Winz

10-06-2008, 12:18 AM

My mom's an ISTJ. She's pretty cool. She plays video games like all the cool kids.

"?"

10-06-2008, 02:31 PM

Years? How old is this forum? The oldest join date looks like 2007, from what I can remember. :huh:This forum is a spin off from many other forums that were around like INTPC and I can't N-Central.

"?"

10-06-2008, 02:34 PM

I thought he meant for decades past, but that seemed unrealistic. So I figured he must have meant this forum. Other forums...oh. Not that important, anyway.Actually prior to the forums being developed, we chatted on yahoo groups a decade ago. There was a group for every type and then some. In fact I think that some people still prefer yahoo groups to the forums. They (http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=mbti) still seem to be active.

Bella

10-06-2008, 03:37 PM

Whaddayaknow, there's even an ISTJ group.

brb

Penguin

10-06-2008, 05:42 PM

hmm, i dont know if this has been posted before or not, but ISTJ's are great people, it takes a looong while for them to open up and show their good side to the people they love, but once they do, oh well its just awesome :yes:
i posted this as a compliment to my very good ISTJ friend, i know he may not ever read this, but im pretty confident that other ISTJ's will apreciate it :D

Anja

10-06-2008, 06:35 PM

One site describes them as "salt of the earth."

iwakar

10-07-2008, 05:50 PM

SJs are a sexy lot. :devil:

I know that much.

PinkPiranha

10-07-2008, 08:36 PM

Anyone else think that Larry Mullen Jr, from U2 is an ISTJ?

I love that guy. Cool as ice and very smart.

Beat

10-07-2008, 09:08 PM

^Cool? Smart? Gotta be a teej. :cheese:

batumi

10-14-2008, 09:45 PM

And when it comes to feelings I genuinely believe that he is puzzled by what he is feeling and what to do about it. He has several "tells" that have proven accurate over time. He actually scratches his head, cartoon-like when he feels stymied. There's that jaw-twitch thing. And when it comes to fight or flight he rapidly finds something in his environment which needs "fixing" and sets himself to it pronto. Eye contact goes out the window when the first flicker of anger begins to dawn, with the eye contact gradually increasing in intensity as the anger builds, until it becomes a hostile stare accompanied with, "No. I don't feel angry."

Time for Anja to take a walk.

Wow thanks for making me laugh!!
I have been seeing an ISTJ man for about six months now and these
are all so true in my experience.
Really, it was amazing to read this.

01011010

10-15-2008, 12:47 AM

I don't always get along with ISTJs, but Beat seems open-minded. +1

Misty_Mountain_Rose

10-15-2008, 01:43 AM

I know a few ISTJs and I think they're a riot.

gloomy-optimist

10-18-2008, 06:39 PM

I don't know why, but ISTJs just make me happy. Like, seriously. They just fascinate me and make me giggly on the inside, but I don't usually tell them that straight out.

Anja

10-18-2008, 06:51 PM

SJs are a sexy lot. :devil:

I know that much.

Mine sure "was." :smile:

Mondo mentions that ISTJs are fun to play games with. When I was reading about the ISTJ/INFP coupleship I read that playing is the best way for these two personality types to connect. And that has proven true in our relationship. When we vacation together we always have a blast.

He takes care of the details and I find all the fun places to go. Works well.

kyuuei

10-18-2008, 07:05 PM

I don't know why, but ISTJs just make me happy. Like, seriously. They just fascinate me and make me giggly on the inside, but I don't usually tell them that straight out.

I feel the same way!! ^_^b I don't have much trouble getting along with ISTJs at all! Understanding them goes over my head sometimes but I'm always in the clouds anyways so sometimes I miss the guys on the ground there.

Also, games = rockin' for the ISTJs. I recently felt MUCH closer to my very own (I claim you Dew as my own!! You're the only one I've got!!) when starting to play DnD with him as the DM. Also, movies are another good thing that require little emotion and are mutually entertaining. ^_^b