W

[Jen]

Will you go see this (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/09/24/w-movie-trailer/)?

[disregard]

Yes.

[Jen]

Crap it all to hell I didn't make this pubic!

[Brendan]

I'm too curious not to go see it.

[ajblaise]

Probably. But only because there aren't any other interesting looking movies in theaters now.

[Martoon]

Crap it all to hell I didn't make this pubic!

I don't even want to know how you'd go about doing that.

[6sticks]

The plot doesn't seem very realistic... I mean, how would someone like that get elected? I hear there's action in it though so yeah, probably.

[Jen]

I don't even want to know how you'd go about doing that.
I'd tell ya but it'd cost ya 700 billion dollars *raises pinkie to mouth*

[disregard]

Here is the trailer.

Trailers & Clips: W. (Oliver Stone's Bush Biopic) - Trailer (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/dor/objects/14229927/10009470-bush/videos/w_trlr1_081808.html)

It's got a nice little cast goin on.

[pure_mercury]

Crap it all to hell I didn't make this pubic!

This is a pubic poll? Really? Gross!

[Jack Flak]

Oliver Stone is a hack.

[pure_mercury]

Seriously, though, it could be good if it's neither overly broad nor a Stone conspiracy-a-thon. It's got a great cast, that's for sure.

[disregard]

I change my mind. It looks kind of bland.

[Jack Flak]

Go down to "Director:" and see if you like any of those films. I don't.

Oliver Stone (I) (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000231/)

[ajblaise]

He makes decent to mediocre movies, though I never really liked his work.... but he does exploit and exaggerate political and social issues for cinematic effect and get facts wrong in the process.

At least he's not pumping out chick flicks and brain dead comedies like everyone other movie maker.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

Seriously, though, it could be good if it's neither overly broad nor a Stone conspiracy-a-thon. It's got a great cast, that's for sure.

Agreed. But despite his er..."creative" efforts at historical drama, I usually find his movies very entertaining. On pure filmmaking skill and talent, very few match Stone. Despite being a factual car crash, JFK is in my top 20 favorite movies ever. I'll probably see it and just keep reminding myself that as in Michael Moore films, the director has no more credibility than the subject.

[Grayscale]

i dont know. this smells an awful lot like anti-bush fodder, and if i hadnt already had my fill of that already id just go to starbucks

BOOOOORRRRRRRRIIIIIINGGGGG </edahn>

[pure_mercury]

Agreed. But despite his er..."creative" efforts at historical drama, I usually find his movies very entertaining. On pure filmmaking skill and talent, very few match Stone. Despite being a factual car crash, JFK is in my top 20 favorite movies ever. I'll probably see it and just keep reminding myself that as in Michael Moore films, the director has no more credibility than the subject.

Platoon, Wall Street, and JFK are all very good movies. Born on the Fourth of July, Nixon, and The Doors had their moments. Natural Born Killers (especially the director's cut) is a hoot, IMHO.

[MacGuffin]

Platoon, Wall Street, and JFK are all very good movies. Born on the Fourth of July, Nixon, and The Doors had their moments. Natural Born Killers (especially the director's cut) is a hoot, IMHO.

I agree with this, except place JFK with the second batch.

[booyalab]

Of course. It looks really edgy and insightful.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

I'm wondering how many people will judge the quality of the movie on the political stance it takes. I'd love to know how often that happens. That probably deserves a thread of its own, except that people would likely be unaware of or reluctant to admit that they do this.

[booyalab]

I'm wondering how many people will judge the quality of the movie on the political stance it takes. I'd love to know how often that happens. That probably deserves a thread of its own, except that people would likely be unaware of or reluctant to admit that they do this.

That only happens with republicans. You know...all those republican movies like, uh that one..

[Anja]

I'll go with one requirement - that the protagonist finaly admits his error and commits suicide. : p

[sleeptowin]

I'd go and see it if they'd put Beavis and Butthead in it... until they do that, no way.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

That only happens with republicans. You know...all those republican movies like, uh that one..

It doesn't only happen with Republicans. I don't think it's Republicans that make Holocaust movies and antiwar movies prima facie Oscar contenders.

[Jack Flak]

booya is pretty sarky.

[Mempy]

Posts about "chick flicks" and the disownment of femininity moved here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/sexuality-mature-topics/9137-disowning-rejecting-femininity.html).

[anii]

Only if it delivers the virtual equivalent of a cathartic public ass-whooping.

[kuranes]

Platoon, Wall Street, and JFK are all very good movies. Born on the Fourth of July, Nixon, and The Doors had their moments. Natural Born Killers (especially the director's cut) is a hoot, IMHO.
I enjoyed all of them. Well, "Born on the Fourth of July" was only marginally noteworthy for me. I don't even remember why.

I saw an ad run a few times for "W" and at first I thought "it looks like another slapstick 'Jim Carrey-like' vehicle " ( except without Jim ) and so I had ruled it out for theater fare.... until I noticed it was an Oliver Stone movie. Hmmm. I had thought his next movie was going to be a documentary about Chavez negotiating with the Columbian rebel kidnappers. I might check "W" out as a freebie in one of those multiple theater hallways.

I had thought that "Burn Before Reading" ads showed like that kind of a "zany" comedy too, but I decided to go anyway, only because it was a Coen Brothers movie; and that proved to be a worthwhile decision. It was nowhere near as good as "The Big Lebowski", but still funny. My friend Geoff and I both like the Coen Brothers flicks and so we often go see them together, although he won't ever join me afterward in seeing free movies. Although we both enjoy so-called "black humor", we still have different tastes. He thinks "Fargo" was way better than "Lebowski", but I don't agree at all. He really liked "Summer of Sam". ( I wonder what this new Spike Lee movie will be like. )

[MacGuffin]

Coen Brothers discussion split to here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/arts-entertainment/9144-coen-bros-films.html).

[booyalab]

I already knew I wasn't going to see W, but there's a line from a local review of the film that distinguishes it as the most worthless movie review ever.
"If it [the film] feels empty, that's because it's supposed to reflect the man's soul."

[rhinosaur]

It's bland. The acting sucks, too.

[Jennifer]

booya is pretty sarky.

God, that's so... 2006.

* * * *

I only saw the movie because a friend wanted to and I wanted to spend time with her.
Otherwise, it was pretty much a barely average movie released at the wrong time.

Pretty much did not say anything we didn't already know.
No big surprises.
Not enough digging into Bush's faith compared to his addiction issues and what aspects of his personality might have lead him in both areas.

Broslin channeled Bush very well. But not much insight into the person.
A few of the actors channeled their targets well too (Cheney, for example, was a good depiction).
Whoever played Rice belonged on "MAD TV" with her sniveling snarky deliveries, it ruined the tone of the movie.

Most haunting scene (well, besides Bush's interactions with his dad, I felt a bit bad for him): The last one, where he goes back to the catch the ball... and realizes he's standing in an empty field. No one is paying attention anymore. No one cares. He's obsolete.

Which, actually, is the sad reality now.

[Cimarron]

So...what kind of story does it tell? Pretty much a historical narrative? Because I love those.

[Brendan]

That only happens with republicans. You know...all those republican movies like, uh that one..
Don't forget all the movies Ronald Reagan and Arnold were in.


Anywho. The movie was worthwhile in that I no longer feel animosity towards George, but feel rather sorry for the poor guy. This is assuming everything in the movie is accurate, which I'm sure it's not.

[01011010]

I put monkey brain because it's humorous. I will not see the film.

[Nocapszy]

I didn't get it.
What was the appeal?

[Brendan]

I didn't get it.
What was the appeal?
Exactly.

[Edgar]

Go down to "Director:" and see if you like any of those films. I don't.

Oliver Stone (I) (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000231/)

His has some screenwriting skills, I'll give him that (Conan, Scarface).

But yeah, his directing is... overrated I'd say.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

I'd say his directing is underrated, if anything. His filmmaking skills are undermined by his cavalier attitude toward authenticity. But his raw filmmaking skills are astounding.