Gwen Stefani

[dynamiteninja]

She hasn't had her own thread before now, after searching the archives. Let me start with my opinion:

ENFJ ENFP, Enneagram 4

[Jack Flak]

ENFJ
Indeed.

[dynamiteninja]

Indeed.

You're quick as a flash (at posting a reply) aren't you?

Under a minute- must be a record.

[Jack Flak]

I'm just getting warmed up. *iced tea*

[SuperFob]

ENFP.

[dynamiteninja]

ENFP.

Maybe.

[Thursday]

hmm
her judging function is introverted
and i see Fi
could be 4th position Ti - but i doubt it

[proteanmix]

I've never thought she was ENFJ but who knows.

[Jack Flak]

Video reference (not trying to prove anything, I just like video reference): YouTube - Gwen Stefani Interview 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6lccroEJ6Q&feature=related)

[dynamiteninja]

She seems too sedate and collected to be an ENFP. :)

[Jack Flak]

Yeah. After watching the vid, I'm more confident in ENFJ.

[Thursday]

Video reference (not trying to prove anything, I just like video reference): YouTube - Gwen Stefani Interview 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6lccroEJ6Q&feature=related)


ENFJ !

[sandwich]

I dunno, but she has some wicked style.

[Jack Flak]

An extremely "other than ENFP" vibe, for the unconvinced: YouTube - Discovering Gwen Stefani 1991, before she was a star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUaNQMUpEQ&feature=related)

[Jen]

I'm gonna go with ESFJ since she bleaches her hair and wears makeup (tsk tsk), although I do love her so. :wub:

[Jack Flak]

ESFJ
No chance. Whatsoever.

[Thursday]

I'm gonna go with ESFJ since she bleaches her hair and wears makeup, although I do love her so. :doh:

:huh:

[Sunshine]

On the enneagram blogspot it says she's an ENFP enneagram 4w3.

[Sunshine]

I'm gonna go with ESFJ since she bleaches her hair and wears makeup (tsk tsk), although I do love her so. :wub:

lol ur not serious right?

[proteanmix]

Well I do loves me some fashion so I can't argue with the woman about that.

Her desire to be the only one wearing an outfit which is so important to her ("being an individual, not like anyone else"--3:20 in) and anti-designer/name brand makes me think Fi before Fe. Not that ENFJs like seeing a sweater they bought at GAP on gazillion other people, but it just seems SO important to her.

Where's her Fe vs. Ne? I don't believe all ENFPs need to be bouncing off the walls so her relative sedateness doesn't really prove anything.

[Jack Flak]

Where's her Fe vs. Ne? I don't believe all ENFPs need to be bouncing off the walls so her relative sedateness doesn't really prove anything.
Didn't notice she was about the friendliest thing on Earth?

[proteanmix]

Didn't notice she was about the friendliest thing on Earth?

Friendly is the only thing that makes her an ENFJ?

[Jack Flak]

Friendly is the only thing that makes her an ENFJ?
You took the argument to functions, specifically "Where is Fe vs. Ne."

She demonstrates what one could call first-class-expert-use-of-Fe. Where is the Ne?

[proteanmix]

You took the argument to functions, specifically "Where is Fe vs. Ne."

She demonstrates what one could call first-class-expert-use-of-Fe. Where is the Ne?

That's what I'm asking you. I gave some proof what I thought was Fi more than Fe. Most celebrities being interviewed are at least friendly so her friendliness in the interview is a given not proof of Fe.

[Jack Flak]

OK, well I disagree with your "proof." Clothing choice is Fi now? And I thought most others took functions too far. (Try and justify clothing choice with any function: it's easy. I won't bore you.)

[proteanmix]

OK, well I disagree with your "proof." Clothing choice is Fi now? And I thought most others took functions too far. (Try and justify clothing choice with any function: it's easy. I won't bore you.)

I didn't say her clothing choice was Fi, her reasons behind her clothing choice indicate more Fi than Fe to me. Check three minutes, 10 seconds into the video and tell me what you think.

[Jack Flak]

I watched it alreeeady, and I'm here to tell you I know what you're getting at, but I could write an essay on why that's due to Ti, or Te, or Fe, and make people believe it. It's just not my bag.

I feel reasonably confident she's ENFJ, based mainly on comparison as usual, and that's enough for me. If she knocks on my door and says "WTF you think you're doin' sommabish, I'm ENFP!" I might reconsider.

[toonia]

Anyone consider ESFP? The external fashion bit seems more sensory, but who knows. I know a number of ENFP artists and performers, and their thought processes are unmistakable. They are the masters of creative non-linear thought. Ne in a naturally creative person is one helluva ride. I haven't noticed that aspect to her, but it might be there.

[SuperFob]

Video reference (not trying to prove anything, I just like video reference): YouTube - Gwen Stefani Interview 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6lccroEJ6Q&feature=related)
Thanks for posting that. It made me go from being 90% sure she's an ENFP to 99% sure.

[SuperFob]

Personal Quotes
I think everyone has gifts and everyone has talents. If you are successful at it, it feels really good but it never really penetrates completely. There are moments where I think that we made an amazing record and I'm so proud of it, but I don't wake up and go, "Wow, I'm amazing.

It's always odd to talk about my fashion. It's something you look at-you don't need to talk about it.

I don't know what I'm going to do, but I've always wanted to do the family thing

At a certain point I'm going to want to have a family and I'm not going to have time to be running around the world doing this shit and being greedy. I can always write songs. But can I always wear an Alice-in-Wonderland costume? I probably shouldn't. I can at home. I was thinking that when I have children, that I should always dress as a character for them, so they think their mom is Alice in Wonderland or Cinderella. It would be totally messed up!

As a famous person you think how you're gonna end it, get away and have a normal life. I imagine my children are going to save me from my vanity and be my passion and fill whatever fears I have of the amazing time I'm having right now being gone. I don't want to drop off and not be on the radio or not be able to talk about myself for hours. I don't want it to go away. But at the same time, I never expected to be here in the first place.

I'm really emotional. I don't fight with people - like, I can barely fight with my husband because I'll just start crying instead. I've learnt not to do that.

I've been making a conscious effort not to think about the future. I'm lucky to not have a real job, to be able to express myself, be creative and be relevant. I don't know what I will be doing in 10 years. How old will I be? Forty-five. I don't want to think about it to be honest, because it's a waste of time. Tomorrow night I'll be in bed with my husband again and it will be really great. It's all about right now.

I'm like a peanut butter sandwich.

The one thing that makes me feel super lucky about my financial success is that I have a housekeeper.

My songs are basically my diaries. Some of my best songwriting has come out of time when I've been going through a personal nightmare.

I really want to take some more time out and be with my husband. I guess what I really want is to have a baby. Life is short and you've got to get the most out of it.

I'd like to stress that I only have a small role. Oh, who am I kidding? There are no small roles in a Martin Scorsese film. (Regarding her role in The Aviator (2004)).

For me, acting comes from the same place as performing music. I just have to perform. I wanted to get it right and I did. Sometimes you just have to go for it.

"They are my best friends, so when I told them that I wanted to try something solo they responded in the way that best friends do. It was a matter of timing. We've all been growing up and our priorities have changed. Then I went and got married and my priorities certainly changed." (regarding pursuing a solo music career away from her rock group, No Doubt)

"This album is just about me. Although at times I think there's less of me on this than anything I've done because of all the people involved." (regarding her first solo album, Love Angel Music Baby)

"I imagine having children will save me from my vanity and fill whatever fears I have." [on easing up on her career to consider a family, in Rolling Stone]

"I really don't care what people say. It's not like it discourage me from doing something I want to do".

One time, a guy said he worked for Hugh M. Hefner and gave me a card. I thought it was funny.

I have a dream about spending time in my house with my kids. Being a mom was all I ever dreamed about. Now that it's come true it makes me feel like my life has come together. Nothing else matters.

There's the full list of quotes on her imdb page. Pretty much the perfect model of what an Fi user talks like. Not trying to prove anything, just making a reference :D

[Jack Flak]

"I'm like a peanut butter sandwich."

Total Fi. Wait, wah? You guys are funny.

[SuperFob]

"I'm like a peanut butter sandwich."

Total Fi.
Pretty much :yes:

[scantilyclad]

gwen seems much more enfp than enfj to me. Have you ever listened to no doubt lyrics from "return of saturn" or "tragic kingdom" a lot of the lyrics are VERY Fi.

[Jack Flak]

gwen seems much more enfp than enfj to me. Have you ever listened to no doubt lyrics from "return of saturn" or "tragic kingdom" a lot of the lyrics are VERY Fi.
I'm not saying she didn't write them, but I do know No Doubt wasn't "The Gwen Stefani Band," so she might not have written them all. You tell me.

[SuperFob]

The way she acts is completely ENFP, too. If you know an ENFP or if you've seen any youtube videos of them, you'll know what I mean. They're the most joyous and charming people in the world.

[Jack Flak]

Oh, also....EVERYONE HAS INTROVERTED FEELING if you want to call it that.

I am familiar with ENFPs.

[SuperFob]

I'm not saying she didn't write them, but I do know No Doubt wasn't "The Gwen Stefani Band," so she might not have written them all. You tell me.
Yes, she wrote them. That whole album was about her break-up with her boyfriend (who happens to be on the band), Tony Kanal, and how devastated she was afterwards. Unless the other guys were reading her mind, I doubt they would've been able to write the lyrics.

[scantilyclad]

yes gwen writes her lyrics.

[SuperFob]

Oh, also....EVERYONE HAS INTROVERTED FEELING if you want to call it that.

I am familiar with ENFPs.
Not exactly. There's a big difference between talking about yourself and the way Fi-users talk about themselves. Then again, I guess some people just can't notice that difference.

When someone constantly says things like this:

My songs are basically my diaries. Some of my best songwriting has come out of time when I've been going through a personal nightmare.
The Fi is pretty much on obvious open display.

[Jack Flak]

"Well if you come away......With more than you ever thought you could.....Tell me I'm right someday, and have always understood.

I think you'll die someday.....For if you don't you would be unusual......But I hope you hesitate.....Before you give in to the world."


Those are some Ti lyrics for you, CAN YOU TELL. I'm turning into CC here so I'm getting pretty familiar with the whole ENFP thing.

[bluemonday]

"Well if you come away......With more than you ever thought you could.....Tell me I'm right someday, and have always understood.

I think you'll die someday.....For if you don't you would be unusual......But I hope you hesitate.....Before you give in to the world."


Those are some Ti lyrics for you, CAN YOU TELL. I'm turning into CC here so I'm getting pretty familiar with the whole ENFP thing.

Jack's in lurrrrvvvv *snigger*

[Jack Flak]

Jack's in lurrrrvvvv *snigger*
Shit, I wrote those like seven years ago.

[Jack Flak]

A. Exactly my point. My supposed function order is Ti-Ne-Si-Fe, and I wrote those.

B. Exactly my point. Almost anyone can write good heartfelt lyrics.

Edit: Apparently the post I was responding to was deleted.

[SuperFob]

A. Exactly my point. My supposed function order is Ti-Ne-Si-Fe, and I wrote those.

B. Exactly my point. Almost anyone can write good heartfelt lyrics.
My apologies, I thought those were Gwen's :D

Those were pretty good, btw.

[Jack Flak]

Thanks! You should hear them. :)

[cascademn]

Eh, can't say I'm convinced on the ENFP-ness. She doesn't remind me of the ENFP's I know, but what do I know.

I don't really think Fi-sounding lyrics point to Fi being a dominant function. I mean, songwriting is an outlet for Fi-ness for ANY personality type, in my opinion.

Just found this video -- thought it was kinda interesting, because it shows her in more of a 'natural' state (also when she was quite young - about 21-22)-- not an official interview, very low-key. You have to skip to the 30-second mark before the video actually begins.

YouTube - Discovering Gwen Stefani 1991, before she was a star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUaNQMUpEQ&feature=related)

[SuperFob]

Just a general thing I want to say: Even though it may logically seem like an Fe user would be likely to be the friendlier one, it seems like the opposite with NF's.

Intuitive Fe's (INFJ's and ENFJ's) seem a lot more serious as opposed to the Intuitive Fi's (INFP's and ENFP's) who are much more charming and laid-back. INFJ's can tend to look really serious and often have monotone voice-patterns. INFJ's in particular are much more lethargic and "cold on the outside" than you may expect an Fe-user to be, I've noticed. I think it may be the Ni which makes us seem a lot more detached (because we are). I once had a kid walk up to me and the first thing he said was "You look like a pothead" :shock:

[Jack Flak]

Eh, can't say I'm convinced on the ENFP-ness. She doesn't remind me of the ENFP's I know, but what do I know.

I don't really think Fi-sounding lyrics point to Fi being a dominant function. I mean, songwriting is an outlet for Fi-ness for ANY personality type, in my opinion.

Just found this video -- thought it was kinda interesting, because it shows her in more of a 'natural' state (also when she was quite young - about 21-22)-- not an official interview, very low-key. You have to skip to the 30-second mark before the video actually begins.

YouTube - Discovering Gwen Stefani 1991, before she was a star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUaNQMUpEQ&feature=related)
We completely agree, but not only did I post that (in other words), I posted that video. LOL.

[SuperFob]

Meh, I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree with everyone.

[SuperFob]

I don't really think Fi-sounding lyrics point to Fi being a dominant function. I mean, songwriting is an outlet for Fi-ness for ANY personality type, in my opinion.
I'll have to respectfully disagree. Fe-users seem to send more general societal messages with their work. Bob Dylan is an example. Britney Spears also comes to mind with that womanizer song she made and she said that she wrote it as inspiration for all the women in the world being cheated on by their bf's/hubbies.

Gwen, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to be trying to send those kinds of messages with her songs. She's always writing about personal journeys or personal messages and emotional things that happen to her. Very very Fi. Beyond a doubt for me. But that's just my opinion.

[Jack Flak]

Gwen, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to be trying to send those kinds of messages with her songs. She's always writing about personal journeys or personal messages and emotional things that happen to her. Very very Fi. Beyond a doubt for me. But that's just my opinion.
Moar "Ti-Ne-Si-Fe" lyrics: http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/340163-post416.html

[SuperFob]

Moar "Ti-Ne-Si-Fe" lyrics: http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/340163-post416.html
Now that I've seen the whole song, I can definitely see the Ti in it.

[Jack Flak]

LOL ok. (It's a different song btw)

[SuperFob]

LOL ok. (It's a different song btw)
Yea, that explains it :doh:

[SuperFob]

I think that your lyrics seem a bit more borderline. If I knew that you were an Fi user, I might be tempted to call them Fi. Since I know that you're Ti, I can see it as you just analyzing yourself. Simply putting things in lyrical form can make things look like they have an emotional connotation, though.

When it comes to Gwen, you can see the emotion in her lyrics. When she says things like "Don't tell me cuz it hurts," it seems much more Fi.

[cascademn]

Gwen, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to be trying to send those kinds of messages with her songs. She's always writing about personal journeys or personal messages and emotional things that happen to her. Very very Fi. Beyond a doubt for me. But that's just my opinion.

Sure, it could be very very Fi. But I still don't think that 'proves' a whole lot. I mean, my journals, or my blog, for example. Almost everything I write about in them is my own personal journey and emotional stuff. Very self-focused, very self-absorbed, and little societal stuff. If I was actually good at poetry/lyrics, I'd venture to say I'd write similar personal/emotional stuff, and it would be possibly bleeding with Fi.

But outsiders call me INFJ, and say my Fe is obvious.

Truly, I know what you're saying, but I think when you get into artistic endeavors, it can get a bit murkier. Of course that's just my opinion. And it's not like I'm saying Gwen is definitively not an ENFP -- she just doesn't seem nearly quirky/off-the-wall/random (I don't mean any of those in a negative connotation) as I would expect an ENFP/Ne-dominant to be. But again - I'm kinda 'meh' about mbti these days anyway, so you probably shouldn't listen to me. ;)

[Jack Flak]

I can haz feelings too?

I might even say Fe for "Don't tell me 'cause it hurts."

[SuperFob]

I might even say Fe for "Don't tell me 'cause it hurts."
Yea, I see what you're saying and I agree. I also see what you guys are saying about how it can be a lot murkier when it comes to music. I guess that I'm still basing my ENFP-opinion on Gwen's general bubbliness and the way she talks about herself, and I'm still pretty sure about it.

[Thursday]

hmm - ENFP does make sense
ESFP makes a bit more sense
that way she'd have Se and Fi and....Ni to give her that fantasy thing

the sweet escape - tragic kingdom
yada yada

[Jack Flak]

Yea, I see what you're saying and I agree. I also see what you guys are saying about how it can be a lot murkier when it comes to music. I guess that I'm still basing my ENFP-opinion on Gwen's general bubbliness and the way she talks about herself, and I'm still pretty sure about it.
At least we're speaking the same language now. :)

AvereX: I can't force the S in in any way. She's just too...."N" to be ESFP.

[Jen]

:huh:u herd me.lol ur not serious right?whatwhat? uhhuhuhhuh :yes:

[Thursday]

At least we're speaking the same language now. :)

AvereX: I can't force the S in in any way. She's just too...."N" to be ESFP.

fine

but for sure - extroverted perciever with Fi
INFP ?
nah
ENFP it is

[Jack Flak]

Could be ENFP, but I favor ENFJ. I disagree with the Fi argument.

Why Perceiving?

[Thursday]

Could be ENFP, but I favor ENFJ. I disagree with the Fi argument.

Why Perceiving?

because she's laid back on the outside
her judgement and critiques are subjective

with this info - re-evaluate the interviews

[Jack Flak]

because she's laid back on the outside
her judgement and critiques are introverted

with this info - re-evaluate the interviews

From all I understand to date, those can be ENFJ characteristics.

From typelogic.com:

ENFJs are, by definition, Js, with whom we associate organization and decisiveness. But they don't resemble the SJs or even the NTJs in organization of the environment nor occasional recalcitrance. ENFJs are organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs. Their offices may or may not be cluttered, but their conclusions (reached through feelings) about people and motives are drawn much more quickly and are more resilient than those of their NFP counterparts.

[Thursday]

is there an ENFP and ENFJ we can call upon to say yay or nay ?

[Jack Flak]

is there an ENFP and ENFJ we can call upon to say yay or nay ?
Let's leave it up to the ENF twins.

[Jack Flak]

Moar reference for your viewing pleasure. Unbiased, as I haven't watched it yet.

YouTube - Gwen Stefani- A Few of My Favorite Things (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc_tnLIKuKs)

[SuperFob]

Moar reference for your viewing pleasure. Unbiased, as I haven't watched it yet.

YouTube - Gwen Stefani- A Few of My Favorite Things (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc_tnLIKuKs)
Yep, she still gives off those strong ENFP vibes IMO. I also think she shows some Ne with the spontaneity and the way she jumps around from topic to topic.

[Jack Flak]

And of course I was thinking J.

[LadyJaye]

I hate to burst everyone's bubble here, but she's not an Intuitive. The girl screams ESFP to me. She's super put together, fashionable, entertaining, not academic. Believe me, I would claim her for the ENFP's if I thought she were, but she just isn't.

[Jack Flak]

I hate to burst everyone's bubble here, but she's not an Intuitive. The girl screams ESFP to me. She's super put together, fashionable, entertaining, not academic. Believe me, I would claim her for the ENFP's if I thought she were, but she just isn't.
:doh: At least AvereX will be happy. *secretly holds on to opinion*

[LadyJaye]

:doh: At least AvereX will be happy. *secretly holds on to opinion*

Well, I can certainly respect a man who clings to his bad opinions. :cheese:

[Jack Flak]

Well, I can certainly respect a man who clings to his bad opinions. :cheese:
Countin' on it.

[SuperFob]

She's super put together, fashionable, entertaining, not academic.
I could easily see those being qualities of an ENFP (maybe not the 'super put together part', but I definitely wouldn't call Gwen 'super put together'). I think that people tend to give N's way too lofty a disadvantage when it comes to things like fashion and sports.

[LadyJaye]

I could easily see those being qualities of an ENFP (maybe not the 'super put together part', but I definitely wouldn't call Gwen 'super put together'). I think that people tend to give N's way too lofty a disadvantage when it comes to things like fashion and sports.

Oh no, I'm always put together, but I can tell the difference between N and S sensibilities. My best friend is an ESFP - we have lots of similarities in terms of aesthetic, but she goes for the "pow!" effect, always a bit over the top, as where I'm more into the idea of expressing my internal self to the outside world, and I'm more sedate.

[Jack Flak]

*caves* I accept ESFP as most likely type. Thanks J.

[Viv]

Her path to celebrity stardom financially made more sense. Had her band have not have been discovered?... I'd say she could've possibly be a well-rounded ENFP...

I can see where Stefani may seem more "J," since she seems a bit reserved/collected in her interviews.. there are different ranges of perceivers.

I can also see where Gwen may appear to be ESFP too, but all the ESFPs I personally know IRL tend to be bobble-head catty gossip queens.. Gwen doesn't seem to be that way. Again, I'm stereotyping based on personal experiences..there are exceptions to the rule.

From observation, NPs tend to be a bit creative and unique in their own ways in which highly value their own individuality.. they tend to not be followers. Gwen doesn't seem like a follower. ESFPs I know IRL tend to be pretty conforming.

I personally think she's slightly more E'N'FP than E'S'FP by a fraction of a small percent. We need to start up a poll here! :hug:

[LadyJaye]

*caves* I accept ESFP as most likely type. Thanks J.

It's because I threw a cricket on you, isn't it?

[Jack Flak]

It's because I threw a cricket on you, isn't it?
Get it off! Get it off! :smile:

[LadyJaye]

I can also see where Gwen may appear to be ESFP too, but all the ESFPs I personally know IRL tend to be bobble-head catty gossip queens.. Gwen doesn't seem to be that way. Again, I'm stereotyping based on personal experiences..there are exceptions to the rule.

From observation, NPs tend to be a bit creative and unique in their own ways in which highly value their own individuality.. they tend to not be followers. Gwen doesn't seem like a follower. ESFPs I know IRL tend to be pretty conforming.


The ESFP's you know are not all ESFP's. My best friend is neither a drama queen nor is she a conformist. They do like to please the group in which they belong, but that doesn't make them conformist. She's wildly creative - I envy her ability to decorate.

I also think Gwen is married to an ISTJ. He's creative too, so I guess I'll be hearing the N arguments for how we're the only ones who can do anything creative or unique.

[Jack Flak]

Yeah, my best friend is ESFP too (though a guy), and totally rad like that.

[SuperFob]

where I'm more into the idea of expressing my internal self to the outside world
You don't think Gwen puts some thought into expressing her internal self via appearance?

Here're the two covers Gwen had for her Sweet Escape album:

Image:GrandOldPartyJillGreenberg.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GrandOldPartyJillGreenberg.jpg)

Image:Gwen TheSweetEscape.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gwen_TheSweetEscape.JPG)

Here's what she had to say about the first one:
"I didn't think 'child abuse' -- I just thought, 'That's beautiful.' Every kid cries. Other people reacted like, 'Oh my God. That's so disturbing,' or 'That's so sad.' I guess that's what art's all about. It's supposed to make you think."

Here's what she said about the second one:
"My initial inspiration for the artwork was seeing Jill Greenberg’s End Times exhibit. I fell in love with the beautifully lit, emotional images. The photos looked hyper real and perfectly perfect even though the emotions were slightly disturbing. The shots with sunglasses on the cover represent our guarded exterior while the interior shots show the real emotions we all have inside. "

If you look at Gwen's music videos, you'll notice that whatever she wears in each one usually has A LOT of significance to the overall mood of the song (mainly in the more angsty ones). If you look at her style before and after she married Gavin, you'll notice a difference. I've noticed Gwen changing styles through different phases of her life, and I also notice that she seems to have sunglasses on whenever she expects the paparazzi are around. In the quote above this, she talks about what sunglasses usually mean to her, and she definitely keeps a guarded exterior around paparazzi.

[Jack Flak]

You do realize that Se is the dominant function for ESFPs. They're very good at looking how they want to look.

[LadyJaye]

Yeah, my best friend is ESFP too (though a guy), and totally rad like that.

She was a bartender for several years, and she always knew when someone was talking a bunch of garbage - it was crazy to see her call someone out for trying to sell a fur lined bathtub, because half of the time, I wasn't even aware someone was trying to be sneaky.

Is you ESFP a righteous dude to the max? :D

[SuperFob]

"expressing... internal self... to the outside world"

[Jack Flak]

I trust him with my life, but not his. LOL.

[LadyJaye]

"expressing... internal self... to the outside world"

ESFP's don't lack meaning. I'm sure she thinks through what she's going to say, and why she's going to say it. Intuitives don't hold a monopoly on that. My ESFP gives me many reasons for why she chooses to do or say things, and she finds meaning in things just like I do sometimes. The difference is that she's completely grounded, and my head is always divided between heaven and earth.

[Viv]

The ESFP's you know are not all ESFP's. We know the same people?? Kewl..

Yes, there are different variants of all kinds of people. That's why I mention: ..Again, I'm stereotyping based on personal experiences..there are exceptions to the rule.

She's wildly creative - I envy her ability to decorate. A person may have an ability to decorate- doesn't mean they're creative. But, you're entitled to your opinion.

[LadyJaye]

A person may have an ability to decorate- doesn't mean they're creative. But, you're entitled to your opinion.

The fact that she can create a room out of a decorating magazine from nothing but items from a dollar store is what I would call creativity. You clearly just don't like ESFP's.

[SuperFob]

ESFP's don't lack meaning. I'm sure she thinks through what she's going to say, and why she's going to say it. Intuitives don't hold a monopoly on that. My ESFP gives me many reasons for why she chooses to do or say things, and she finds meaning in things just like I do sometimes. The difference is that she's completely grounded, and my head is always divided between heaven and earth.
Lol, I don't remember saying "ESFP's lack meaning." It's pretty easy to just take what I say and try and simplify it to me making those kinds of extreme statements, but it's a lot more complicated than that.

I was just using your words. A lot of the the things you've been saying about ENFP's describe Gwen perfectly. Gwen never goes for the "Pow!" effect with her fashion style- whatever she's wearing always seems to be reflecting her current state and mood, especially in her music videos. She isn't exactly 'grounded' all the time, either. Looking at her, I notice that she seems to have that faraway, N-look in her eyes half the time whenever I see her. And, even though N's don't hold a monopoly on finding the meaning behind things, there's a level of depth that gives them away.

ESFP's don't like theory and abstraction in general, they're more detail-oriented and practical. Gwen isn't like that at all. If you ask her for the details, such as her work-out routine, she won't vividly describe the details the way an ESFP would. She'll say "Uh, I don't know, I do sit-ups!" She's way too metaphorical and big-picture oriented with the way she talks to be an S.

And no, I'm not saying that any of that's a good or bad thing, in case you're going to take any of what I'm saying to insuate that I dislike or having anything against ESFP's. I'm not denying that they're awesome people, I'm just saying that there's no way in hell that Gwen is anything like one of them :cheese:

[dynamiteninja]

I don't think that Gwen is any kind of S. I have however, yielded to her being a P. ENFP. Final offer.

[Jack Flak]

You're just saying that coz some dumb website said ENFP.

[dynamiteninja]

You're just saying that coz some dumb website said ENFP.

Well no, actually. The arguments reenforced by popular opinion on this thread have convinced me.

[sakuraba]

ENFP. For sure.

[sakuraba]

"Fergie" is the cheap ESFP bootleg imitation of Stefani.

[Jack Flak]

Fergie is ESFP, yes. But Stefani isn't ENFP.

[ajblaise]

Gwen Stefani now is a cheap bootleg of Gwen Stefani from 1996.

[sakuraba]

Gwen Stefani now is a cheap bootleg of Gwen Stefani from 1996.

Yeah. MOST artists ARE a shell of what they used to be.

[erinavery]

Video reference (not trying to prove anything, I just like video reference): YouTube - Gwen Stefani Interview 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6lccroEJ6Q&feature=related)
okay...well that's a trip she reminds me of me in that video...haha...weird
i think i might even look like her if i had that hair! whoa...

[Jack Flak]

C'mon, you're prettier than Stefani, don't kid yourself.

[erinavery]

C'mon, you're prettier than Stefani, don't kid yourself.
jack.....
sweet...but...prettier... no...but...we look the same from the side...and that was weird to see.