INTP?

[evan]

This MBTI "expert" is convinced I'm an INTP.

I think INFJ fits better...but I've been called an INTP so many times...

Can you guys see it? If I were to list the top 2 types I could fit, I'd definitely say INFJ and INTP.

I do think INFJ fits better, though...

Thoughts?

[Edahn]

It's not totally crazy.

You like to debate abstracts and you seem to place a lot of value on your ideas. It also looks like you like to top with your ideas and tinker them. On the other hand, I think your observational skills are stronger than your debate skills (but I honestly could be wrong). I would guess XNTP or INFP.

This MBTI "expert" is convinced I'm an INTP.

BlueWing? (http://myweb.uiowa.edu/plegrant/images/spinoza.gif)

[Owl]

I'd guess you were an INTP before INFJ--your posts ooze Ti. Then again, I'm not very good at distinguishing Ti from Ni.

[CaptainChick]

Sure, why not.

INTP ~ INFJ

I rarely understand either of these types.

And yes, I don't really get you.

:)

[evan]

BlueWing? (http://myweb.uiowa.edu/plegrant/images/spinoza.gif)

No, someone I've met face to face.

And yes, I definitely have a lot of Ti. I could easily see INTP for myself.

[disregard]

I would say you have extraverted perception and introverted judgment. Alas, I can only say that I intuit it.

[evan]

So if you guys had to rate INTP or INFJ as a best fit type, would you say INTP fits better?

Seems like the responses so far trend towards INTP.

[cloakofsnow]

Well, an INFJ can appear a lot like an IxTP when they're "in the grip" of tertiary Ti. But a true INTP can't really appear to be Ni. Just pointing out something based on theory. I haven't posted here long enough to say anything about your type either way.:blush:

[Mondo]

It's tough to say.
I noticed a lot of Ti and a lot of Ni in your posts.
I would say you are either an INFJ with a well-developed Ti or vice versa.

[Edahn]

I would guess INFP or ENTP.

[Delphyne]

INFJ.

[Jack Flak]

I thought INFJ....Still do, I suppose.

[bluemonday]

sounds to me like you're an INFJ who's been hanging around here too long ;)

[evan]

^heh maybe

[Eric B]

Seems INTP (favoring logic) to me as well.
Considering you used to go by INTP; what made you change over again?
I also don't recognise the Ni use. The biggest experience I had with Ni is an online conflict with someone for whom it was overdominating. (Used it to speak for other people, justify their own bad behavior, and then becoming a martyr). So I know what that looks like, but I'm not sure what average everyday use of it looks like in people's writing. So the ability to debate type theory like you do I have come to associate with Ti+Ne.

If you do have good Ni use, then ISTP will have both Ti and Ni also.

[evan]

Seems INTP (favoring logic) to me as well.
Considering you used to go by INTP; what made you change over again

I use Fe too much, and I seem to be an Ni user over Ne.

I still believe I'm INFJ. All Ts in my immediate family, though, which made me develop Ti much more than most.

Two functions are never enough to explain behavior, anyway. When some people think INFJ, they think Ni+Fe+some bullshit. Many people want to believe that T and F is this huge distinction between people, but it really isn't, except in severe cases.

Most people cluster around the middle somewhere.

It's sort of like p implies q doesn't mean q implies p. T implies good with logic, but good with logic doesn't necessarily imply T.

Good to hear I could pass as INTP, though, considering the image people have of INTPs :)

[Orangey]

I don't really see any similarity of behavior between you and the other active INFJ's on this board, so I would be inclined to say that you are more INTP. Your Fe, too, is a lot of the time completely undetectable in your forum behavior. What this says about how you typically behave in RL is uncertain, though.

And yes, I know I'm using the T/F divide (without clearly knowing the distinction, though it's easier between Ti and Fe than with Ti and Fi), but I don't know how to recognize Ni accurately, so I have to go with what I know.

[evan]

IRL a few of my friends call me "Evan-bot" because I'm so obsessed with logic and systems and computer science and reductionism/determinism, yadda yadda.

I still navigate the world through Fe, though. It halts me from doing a lot of talking. Not that I've logically concluded that strategy is good, but that I literally feel the people around me and their emotional capacities incredibly much, to a paralyzing point. Conflict kills me (although I'm incredibly good at solving it) -- I can't function unless everyone's in a good mood. I also feel obligated to solve any potential discomfort in conversations I'm watching. I intuitively understand what people are talking about, and often serve as a "translator" from one perspective to another (much more of an Ni thing).

I can always see exactly why people are disagreeing, who's being hurt, etc.

Yeah. I just think I'm INFJ with very strong Ti -- stronger than most ETPs I've ever met (which was a coping mechanism I developed early to deal with my crazy mom).

[Nocapszy]

but I've been called an INTP so many times...

So have I.

I'm convinced I'm correct about my type.




Err... I guess it isn't all that obvious, but I was making a metaphorical point.

[Jack Flak]

Dissonance : Nocapszy :: INFJ : EMTP

[InaF3157]

No. You didn't strike me as anything other than an NF.

[entropie]

Your posts about your findings concerning cognitive psychology or MBTI are most of the time by a rather sincere nature. You seem to not easily be distracted in your opinions and most of the times, I recognized that you do not take new inputs into your theories from just anyone.

I would definitly rule out Ne for you.

When it comes to Fe and the use of Ti in an INFJ, I really do not think that you are one. From my experience INFJ are good at Ti, but get exhausted with it after some time. I only know one female INFJ for sure and she likes to analyze and abstract like I do but only until certain points.

Really hard to say, because I do not know you personally. This whole Ni thing pretty much requires you to have an own special view on the world and I remember you typing yourself as NiTi, where you changed MBTI type theory in a way that it can best describe yourself. That gives you the Ni tag in my opinion.

So I would conclude that you sometimes have stron opinions about things and need your time to think new ideas through to change your opinions. You seem to have a good knowledge of people and their personality but your knowledge always comes internalized and subjective and you wont change things easily without given them some time to be thought through. That gives you in my opinion a definite J tag. (I had problems sometimes when reading your posts, because I thought you to be very judgemental and not thinking every options carefully through. No heart feelings though :))

The question for Fe can be answered really easily in my opinion. I have not really figured out how it comes within someone's talking style but your personal environment can answer that question.

Is your room clean and do you like it to be clean ? Do you value an environment you feel comfortable at ?

Most Fe Users do that from my experience. My sister for example an ESFJ is pretty messy but she wont leave the house after 5 hours in the bathroom and her furniture is very steril. You sometimes feel like being in a hospital.

My room for example is a total chaos. Things lieing everywhere around in total disorderliness. But I like to have it clean. So I do all the basics to get rid of mud.

In my opinion you are INFJ. For an intp you lack that certain twitching eye, I feel in the presence of Ne users and I would never give you the p tag :D

Hope I didnt offended you, just wanted to give my opinion to support your quest

[cascademn]

I use Fe too much, and I seem to be an Ni user over Ne.

I still believe I'm INFJ. All Ts in my immediate family, though, which made me develop Ti much more than most.

Two functions are never enough to explain behavior, anyway. When some people think INFJ, they think Ni+Fe+some bullshit. Many people want to believe that T and F is this huge distinction between people, but it really isn't, except in severe cases.

Yeah, I tend to agree w/ you on mbti stuff.

I don't know what you are, but I have no issue with your being INFJ or INTP (or really ANY type! Ha.). And I'm to the point where I don't particularly care what type I am. Hence changing mine to 'meh', and I see you did something similar.

Like you, I grew up in a family of all T's - ISTJ, INTJ, and INTP. No doubt in your case, as well as mine, that has influenced expression and development. I also think my prolonged time of living alone -- 4 years -- made me introvert much more than I 'should' have, so introverted functions that I'm not 'supposed' to access much I in fact DO access quite a lot, I think.

Agree with you on more of a blurred/spectrum view of T/F (or really, any of the dichotomies or even cog. functions) vs. a crisp either/or.

[INTJMom]

This MBTI "expert" is convinced I'm an INTP.

I think INFJ fits better...but I've been called an INTP so many times...

Can you guys see it? If I were to list the top 2 types I could fit, I'd definitely say INFJ and INTP.

I do think INFJ fits better, though...

Thoughts?
I agree that you are one of those two, but I don't know you well enough to know which one, though you come across to me mostly like an INTP. Sorry I'm not more help.

[Delphyne]

Really hard to say, because I do not know you personally. This whole Ni thing pretty much requires you to have an own special view on the world and I remember you typing yourself as NiTi, where you changed MBTI type theory in a way that it can best describe yourself. That gives you the Ni tag in my opinion.

My INFJ friend does the same. If he can´t see where he fits within a theory he will change the theory. He refuses to accept certain view points of the theory, because he sees them as limiting. Behind this seems to be a feeling of powerlessness. Ni is a perceiving function which can´t decide for itself which view point it can trust. Combined with Ti it becomes defensive „Why should I accept your point of view? - I won´t!“