The Clash vs. The Ramones

[ajblaise]

Whose better? I would have to go with The Clash, on the count of them being more musical and more substance over style than The Ramones. Also, The Clash had Joe Strummer. The Ramones can also get a little mundane to me.

[Jack Flak]

No contest, but they're all great. The Ramones and the Sex Pistols have about 1/4 the great material of The Clash. The Ramones took longer to come up with the same amount as the Pistols though.

[disregard]

Shane MacGowan ftw

[ajblaise]

No contest, but they're all great. The Ramones and the Sex Pistols have about 1/4 the great material of The Clash. The Ramones took longer to come up with the same amount as the Pistols though.

I'd also add that when it came to style, which is obviously a large part of punk, The Sex Pistols might reign supreme, and more charismatic, which they had to be on the count that they couldn't play their instruments.

[Jack Flak]

None of the above could really play well.

[ajblaise]

None of the above could really play well.

True, but I'd argue that The Clash could play 10x better than the Pistols.

[Jack Flak]

Well...Maybe later, they could. Probably not in 1976.

[ajblaise]

Probably not in the very beginning. They were opening for the Pistols then, who were around a few years before them.

[Jack Flak]

Yeah, if you compare the early versions of the bands, they're both very punk. The Clash evolved, the Pistols broke up in a year.

[burkeus]

When did Slidin' Jake come out. Weeks, months, years after?

[Falcarius]

Falcarius is not really a punk fan but The Clash.

The Pogues and The Sex Pistols make his ears hurt.

[burkeus]

Well...Maybe later, they could. Probably not in 1976.

Probably in 1996.

[Jack Flak]

Probably in 1996.
:huh:

[disregard]

Probably in 1996.

:D

[Magic Poriferan]

I don't enjoy listening to any of them, so it would be very difficult for me to gauge. Haven't paid much attention. I have paid just enough attention to tell that, regardless of whose best, the Sex Pistols are the worst on that list.

[ajblaise]

For the people who don't normally enjoy any of these bands, you might like The Pogues - Summer In Siam

YouTube - The Pogues - Summer In Siam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SreNgKpac)

[Jack Flak]

Also if you think The Clash sux, listen to The Clash more.

[pure_mercury]

Damn, this is a tough one. The Ramones were there at the beginning, and I dig the vibe a lot. The Clash were by far the best of those bands when it comes to the music. The Sex Pistols were the definitive punk band, and their musicianship is underrated (there were some cool post-Pistols projects). I'll go with The Clash by a hair, although I put Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols just two albums ahead of London Calling on my All-Time list.

[Beat]

The Clizash, bizitch.

[Magic Poriferan]

Also if you think The Clash sux, listen to The Clash more.

Pshaw. Respect my tastes.

[Quinlan]

The Clash.

<<<

[LadyJaye]

I like them all, but I let my avatar influence me. :D

Joe was magic. Glorious and creative. I miss him.

[EffEmDoubleyou]

For no good reason, The Ramones. I just get happy when they're playing.

[Members Only]

The Jam were better than all 4 of them.

YouTube - the jam- going underground (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0J_lVFL3nM)

YouTube - The Jam - That's Entertainment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcYs0DGxA_s)

Two lovers kissing amongst the scream of midnight -
Two lovers missing the tranquility of solitude -
Getting a cab and travelling on buses -
Reading the graffiti about slashed seat affairs -

That's Entertainment

[LadyJaye]

The Jam were better than all 4 of them.

YouTube - the jam- going underground (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0J_lVFL3nM)

Oooooo, The Jam were fantastic. "Absolute Beginners" is one of my favorites.

[Members Only]

I find it strange The Clash got so much exposure in the states, compared to the relative obscurity of The Jam's stateside career.

For you Lady Jaye.

YouTube - The Jam - Absolute Beginners (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xw9hgquVpc)

[LadyJaye]

I find it strange The Clash got so much exposure in the states, compared to the relative obscurity of The Jam's stateside career.

I think it may have been their love of American blues and early rock musicians. There was a greaser, Stray Cats-esque sort of thing going on in the US at the time, and I think that made the Clash appealing.

For you Lady Jaye.
YouTube - The Jam - Absolute Beginners[/url]

Yeah! :headphne:

[Jack Flak]

Also shit like this: YouTube - The Clash-The Call Off (Dub/Instrumental) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oCtP0VficE)

[pure_mercury]

This is one of my favorite movie music moments.

Billy Elliot - A Town Called Malice

Fun fact: "A Town Called Malice" is the #1 Most Played Song of All Time on my Winamp.

[Members Only]

Digressing but... I'm a big fan of the final scene from Trainspotting + Born Slippy.

Trainspotting

I've never seen Billy Elliot.

[pure_mercury]

Digressing but... I'm a big fan of the final scene from Trainspotting + Born Slippy.


I've never seen Billy Elliot.

That whole soundtrack is fantastic.

[Jack Flak]

Ooh Underworld. But how is this thread about Underworld now? The fury of the internet, that's how, and it takes no fucking prisoners. Thank God.

[ThatGirl]

This is one of my favorite movie music moments.

Billy Elliot - A Town Called Malice

Fun fact: "A Town Called Malice" is the #1 Most Played Song of All Time on my Winamp.

Why did I always remember this scene to London Calling? I could have sworn.



Either way Billy Eliot mad me vow if I ever had a son he would take ballet lessons



And martial arts cause.....you know

[01011010]

The Clash! Hells yeah.

Also...

X-Ray Spex
Siouxsie & the Banshees
The Casualties

[dorareever]

THE POGUES!!!

:banana2:

the clash are fucking great
the pistols had wonderful lyrics. i kind of like johnny rotten, not much the band per se (but I don't like him with PIL so...uhm :huh:)

the ramones are more like party music for me. I don't even own a record, I respect what they did for music history but they don't connect that much with me. But if they play them I can't stay still or not sing. it's a physical impossibility for me. like with r&b or soul music. I'm not exactly a fan of that type of music, but it gets me moving. :D

oh and I like the adverts. and x-ray spex. :)

[MacGuffin]

The Clash for me.

London Calling might be my favorite album ever.

[nonsequitur]

The Clash. Total no-contest.

Also, I LOVE that scene from Billy Elliot. I have it on DVD, and I used to watch that scene whenever I felt especially depressed. It is so awesome. I used to sprint just because whenever "A Town Called Malice" came on my iPod. I also love the scene where he auditions for the Royal Ballet School and describes what it feels like when he's dancing. Sigh. Love that movie.

[kuranes]

The Clash seem more "musically talented" and, for that very reason ( able to display complexity, among other things ) less "punk" - which would be the Ramones.

I remember when Iggy Pop started a lot of this "rock as attitude" - probably himself inspired by Jim Morrison and Jagger, as far as his onstage antics.

I can't seem to get this youtube mechanism to work. Will post these links instead.

YouTube - the stooges documentary and interview with iggy pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDp4fvUzaS4&feature=related)
YouTube - Iggy Pop documentary (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bEy3OoEm0&feature=related)
YouTube - Iggy Pop documentary (Part 2 of 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ica9yXDV7w&feature=related)
YouTube - Iggy Pop documentary (Part 3 of 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_FHaMGEUqs&feature=related)
YouTube - Iggy Pop documentary (Part 4 of 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9e1q72mHbQ&feature=related)
YouTube - Iggy Pop documentary (Part 5 of 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfYY38ZQ3i0&feature=related)
YouTube - Iggy Pop documentary (Part 6 of 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN1eAhHZJ28&feature=related)

[kuranes]

The front man for The Hives looks a little like the Ig...

[wolfy]

Also if you think The Clash sux, listen to The Clash more.

RIGHT! Listen to The Story of the Clash. So much variety.
The band was so much more musically adventurous than the other three.
Joe Strummer and Mick Jones, Jagger and Richards, some songwriters just work so well together. :headphne:

[Orangey]

The clash are better musicians but I voted Ramones because I like to listen to them better.