Are Is generally cranky

[ThatGirl]

I dont think I have ever met an easy going I.

[spirilis]

whatcha mean by "easy going"?

[Thursday]

cranky as in serious ?
yes
get in a room with an IxxJ with a task to complete and get the **** out of that room

[ThatGirl]

I get the most pierced lips looks from Is.

I have also found they have the least internal patience to outward stimuli

[Thursday]

I get the most pierced lips looks from Is.

I have also found they have the least internal patience to outward stimuli

i concur

[ThatGirl]

so, yes, they are the most crankey

[Thursday]

so, yes, they are the most crankey

yes....but the most stable/not easily excited

[ajblaise]

I think us IP's are easy going. And with "easy going" meaning what I think it does, more so than EP's.

[prplchknz]

I'm pretty sure I'm easy going if not under extreme stress. When I was a child everyone commented on how easy and go with the flow I was. I still am unless you really piss me off.

[ThatGirl]

I disagree. Es are more prone to take action while Is just complain a lot

[ajblaise]

I disagree. Es are more prone to take action while Is just complain a lot

Easy going people are relaxed and calm, taking action (all the time) isn't an easy going thing.

[Haphazard]

As I have said before...

I am not cranky until someone is dumb enough to open their mouth.

I think this 'crankiness' that Es generally experience with Is is more of a 'refrigerator door syndrome' than anything else.

[prplchknz]

Easy going people are relaxed and calm, taking action (all the time) isn't an easy going thing.

exactly

[ThatGirl]

As I have said before...

I am not cranky until someone is dumb enough to open their mouth.

I think this 'crankiness' that Es generally experience with Is is more of a 'refrigerator door syndrome' than anything else.

See external circumstance imaptience

Why

[Haphazard]

See external circumstance imaptience

Why

Why does this happen?

Because you are a needless distraction separating me from what I need to do.

[ThatGirl]

which is? Why does it matter cant you compartmentalize?

And what about the times things dont go your way. Do you blame the external

[murkrow]

I know some really cranky I-TPs but my ISFP brother is almost never cranky, except when I really piss him off.

[Haphazard]

which is? Why does it matter cant you compartmentalize?

And what about the times things dont go your way. Do you blame the external

I don't mind if things don't go my way as long as it wasn't caused by anybody's stupidity/laziness. That's usually the case, though, so it's a moot point. *sigh*

You are demanding something from me when I don't want to give you anything. So therefore, it becomes your problem because you're making something my problem. As in, carelessness on your part does NOT constitute an emergency on my part, etc.

Do Es hate their internal worlds?

[entropie]

As I have said before...

I am not cranky until someone is dumb enough to open their mouth.

I think this 'crankiness' that Es generally experience with Is is more of a 'refrigerator door syndrome' than anything else.

*makes a square*

[cafe]

I can be cranky, but I'm generally pleasant and laid back. I do get sensory overload at times, but if I can retreat from it for awhile, I regain my pleasant disposition pretty quickly.

If you keep experiencing Is as cranky, you might be coming on a little strong and they are trying to withdraw from that. It doesn't necessarily mean they are cranky all the time.

[ThatGirl]

Maybe it is an IT thing.

Dont hate but get bored of rather quickly. Once I have done everything I can I need external circumstance to mix things up a bit.

[murkrow]

INFs are moody, but not cranky like I T s

[ajblaise]

I'd say it's definitely a IF thing over an IT thing. Cranky = ill-tempored, our temper is usually neutral most of the time.

[Nocapszy]

I dont think I have ever met an easy going I.

Do you know how to diagnose an introvert?

[ThatGirl]

no

[Tallulah]

Is are definitely cranky when they're asked questions like the one in the OP, which seems designed to get a rise out of people.

Like cafe said, if you always get the cranky side of Is, it's probably your approach. We definitely get cranky when Es expect us to behave like them, and act as if something is wrong if we don't.

[ThatGirl]

Is are definitely cranky when they're asked questions like the one in the OP, which seems designed to get a rise out of people.

Like cafe said, if you always get the cranky side of Is, it's probably your approach. We definitely get cranky when Es expect us to behave like them, and act as if something is wrong if we don't.

No this isnt comming from personal experience but observation. Is have consistantly come and complain to me about whoever or what ever.

But they were all ITs

[Nocapszy]

Then where does your hypothesis emerge from?

[ThatGirl]

just general observation that led to question a possible connection.

[Nocapszy]

Observations of what?

I just had you openly admit that you didn't know what you were observing.

[ThatGirl]

Of Is complaining about everything

[heart]

I disagree. Es are more prone to take action while Is just complain a lot

Yet you're the only one I see complaining right now. Go take action. :cheese:

[ThatGirl]

no, just questioning

Ok ok Is arent cranky sorry to make you all mad:)

[entropie]

You talk your mouth washy for like 15 hours and they say nothing all the time.

Then you say I think I am finished and they say "See, I told you -.-"

Sometimes with I's you really have to ask yourself, why talking was invented at all xD

[ThatGirl]

When Is are trying to plan things. Particularly ITs. They get easilly frusterated with anything that is outside of the plan. But, being that they dont take affirmative action against the situation they are more likely to complain that one thing screwed up what they thought.

[entropie]

What frusterated long study did you undergo to find out about that ?

[ThatGirl]

experience my friend

[ThatGirl]

and for some reason Is like to open up to me....a lot

[entropie]

experience... I see

[entropie]

Then what is in fact the fact holding you back from climbing the olymp ?

[ThatGirl]

What does climbing the olymp mean?

[entropie]

I bet you will never find out

[Mondo]

I don't think I've ever met a laidback J. C'mon! ISFP or ENTJ? Who's more likely to be Mr. Cranky Pants?
The big shot CEO or the peaceful artist?
J & crankiness likely have a much stronger correlation than I & crankiness.

I disagree about Extraverts and complaining.
Extraverts are much bigger whiners than Introverts.. they usually keep their problems to themselves.

climbing the olymp? Mt. Olympus??

[entropie]

Damn you are really not found of any greek mythology at all, arent you ? I mean the olymp, my 15 year old sister does know it...

You think murkrow is a CEO ? You live in a world of stereotypes, dont you ?

[ThatGirl]

I don't think I've ever met a laidback J. C'mon! ISFP or ENTJ? Who's more likely to be Mr. Cranky Pants?
The big shot CEO or the peaceful artist?
J & crankiness likely have a much stronger correlation than I & crankiness.

I disagree about Extraverts and complaining.
Extraverts are much bigger whiners than Introverts.. they usually keep their problems to themselves.

climbing the olymp? Mt. Olympus??

No, now this has come from INTP too.

Assertiveness and demanding is different from cranky and disheveled

[entropie]

There are few times, when I am ashamed that makes me a perfect idiot for every situation, but at the moment I feel ashamed.

You can not present our extroversion in such a dumb way to those Introverts. Wont gain us any respect. And we so depend on them after all

[murkrow]

I don't think I've ever met a laidback J. C'mon! ISFP or ENTJ? Who's more likely to be Mr. Cranky Pants?
The big shot CEO or the peaceful artist?
J & crankiness likely have a much stronger correlation than I & crankiness.

I disagree about Extraverts and complaining.
Extraverts are much bigger whiners than Introverts.. they usually keep their problems to themselves.

climbing the olymp? Mt. Olympus??

LOL@CEO

You know I'm a starving writer/student, right?

[murkrow]

BTW, in english it's called Mount Olympus.

[Trinity]

Is are definitely cranky when they're asked questions like the one in the OP, which seems designed to get a rise out of people.

Like cafe said, if you always get the cranky side of Is, it's probably your approach.

:yes:


I don't really know what you're asking here. Of course not all Is get cranky, of course not all ITs get cranky. Do you have a specific reason for asking this or are you simply trying to convince us this is the case?

[entropie]

In german it is called Olympia, so what ?

In greek its still the Olymp

[murkrow]

Well they don't teach that here.

Really? Olymp?

Sounds like a small water fowl.

[entropie]

... mount olympus really. How can some one seriously call the mighty Olymp a Mount ....

Then again you call football, soccer.... you americans really have to learn a few things about this world :D

[ThatGirl]

:yes:


I don't really know what you're asking here. Of course not all Is get cranky, of course not all ITs get cranky. Do you have a specific reason for asking this or are you simply trying to convince us this is the case?

This forum is a little hard for me because if I want to get depth I have to put something out there which as known for being an NT is hard for me but here goes

I have whitness a lot of Is get frusterated easilly.

For example" I was asked out by an I and I told him I would get back to him. I forgot until that day was almost over so I text him that I was very busy and that I was sorry but perhaps we could plan something for say three months down the line. He got kind of pissy with me but at the same time tried to cover it so I wouldn't think he was getting pissy. I explained that I was very busy and very tired. But still he was pissy things hadn't worked out as planned.

Another example is an I who constantly complains about how the world is unfair. They never take a stand they just complain and complain. Maybe its just venting, maybe it is just not as important as they make it seem, but still its mindless complaining.

Another I gets easilly annoyed when things are not just so.

I could go on and on.

I just started to see a connection. I am not trying to be convincing I am just asking.

[entropie]

You were asked out ? How desperate was the boy ?

[ThatGirl]

Then what is in fact the fact holding you back from climbing the olymp ?

So what were you asking then?

[entropie]

Then what is in fact the fact holding you back from climbing Mount olympus ?

[Lateralus]

Perhaps what you're experiencing is a response to you crossing a boundary. I's can definitely come across as cranky when you cross their boundaries.

[entropie]

You did it again !

[Lateralus]

You did it again !
Yeah, well...I have some recent experience in dealing with this. So it's on the mind.

[ThatGirl]

Then what is in fact the fact holding you back from climbing Mount olympus ?

I dont want to. I have other goals right now. And they are equally as important

[ThatGirl]

Perhaps what you're experiencing is a response to you crossing a boundary. I's can definitely come across as cranky when you cross their boundaries.

Yes true but only one out of three of those was something I had had a hand in

[entropie]

okkkkkkkkkkeeeeeee ! *thumbs up*

[murkrow]

I dont want to. I have other goals right now. And they are equally as important

[insult removed by npg]

[Lateralus]

Yes true but only one out of three of those was something I had had a hand in
Well, some people are just complainers regardless of their type.

[Trinity]

This forum is a little hard for me because if I want to get depth I have to put something out there which as known for being an NT is hard for me but here goes

I have whitness a lot of Is get frusterated easilly.

For example" I was asked out by an I and I told him I would get back to him. I forgot until that day was almost over so I text him that I was very busy and that I was sorry but perhaps we could plan something for say three months down the line. He got kind of pissy with me but at the same time tried to cover it so I wouldn't think he was getting pissy. I explained that I was very busy and very tired. But still he was pissy things hadn't worked out as planned.

Another example is an I who constantly complains about how the world is unfair. They never take a stand they just complain and complain. Maybe its just venting, maybe it is just not as important as they make it seem, but still its mindless complaining.

Another I gets easilly annoyed when things are not just so.

I could go on and on.

I just started to see a connection. I am not trying to be convincing I am just asking.

Hmm, really don't think I's have the patent on impatience or crankiness. The most impatient and reactive person I know is my beloved brother who is an ENFJ, his emotions rule his life and patience is a foreign concept. Meanwhile some of the most even, un-reactive people I know are introverted. I don't see any pattern with patience or crankiness, they are simply put, immaturities. Anyone can be impatient, cranky or a whinger.

Check your reaction to them cause if it bothers you that’s the only thing you have control over.

[entropie]

Well, some people are just complainers regardless of their type.

Or gangster *brushes his hair gainst the wind* :D

[Lateralus]

Or gangster *brushes his hair gainst the wind* :D
You too? *flashes gang signs*

[ThatGirl]

I guess by crankieness I am refering to when things bother them or dont go their way. While they may not express it to most they seem to express it to me. I just see that they get angry over the slightest of things as though the consequences of these things were immeasurable

[entropie]

Words..hmhm, dont come easy :D

[Lateralus]

I guess by crankieness I am refering to when things bother them or dont go their way. While they may not express it to most they seem to express it to me. I just see that they get angry over the slightest of things as though the consequences of these things were immeasurable
I get what you're saying. I've seen it with my INTP brother, a lot. My next question would be...how old are these cranky introverts?

[ThatGirl]

haha! 60+ 25+ and 18+

[ThatGirl]

wait 30+ too

[Lateralus]

Haha, well, there goes that idea. ;)

[ThatGirl]

yeah all shapes and forms

Maybe not all Is still looking for the missing link in the pattern

[ThatGirl]

I think it is IT

[Trinity]

Age /= maturity

[CzeCze]

I think Introversion and Extraversion does play a part in 'crankiness', 'whininess', 'outbursts', and 'volatility' but it's more in combination with other cognitive functions.

FWIW, I've always been considered 'easy going' to the point parents of the most problem/unpopular children in the neighborhood would make play dates with my mom because I was the only kid who could stand their kid or vice versa. Whether they were bullies or extremely shy, they would actually find a play mate in me (you're welcome!!!!)

I don't think ENFX would be considered 'cranky' but INFP? ... :rolleyes:

I don't think XNTJ would be considered 'cranky' either, but perhaps 'demanding' and not as keen on social niceties which could illicit many 'cranky' and short seeming responses when it comes to getting something done.

The most volatile/surprising outburst folks I've seen in my circle of friends are IT females. INTP/ISTJ This is purely observational.

In these cases, the 'I' makes their internal tolerance of things and responses to things very hidden. You don't know what they are thinking until !BAM! They also don't have the same coping resources (threshold for stimuli, extraverted communication, looking at it from others' POV, 'talking it out')

The funny (to me) thing is that the IT females often get into misunderstandings and spats with one another (look ma, no Es and no NFs!) :laugh:

So it's not so much an 'I' think as a very rigid J or extremely introverted Fi/Ti IT thing that's not supported by other functions or bolstered by some kind of learned skills or valve or bridge to other people so that situations are curbed and nipped in the bud before crankiness and outbursts set in.
Basically coping skills.

For chatty 'Es' we have some coping mechanisms built-in -- namely 'talking it out' and being more likley to express ourselves before the point past frustration. This helps immensely curb any volatile outbursts before it gets to that point. 'Is' built in coping mechanism is having internal frameworks to 'process', but honestly in the realm of human relations the 'E' attempt at communication goes a lot further to dealing with the issue directly.

But, maybe I'm totally off here.

As for whininess, I guess that depends on how it's defined. I think Extroverts are more likely to verbalize their feelings and grumble but it's just words -- at least for me it is. I complain quite easily about things but it doesn't mean much. I have no problem with E's winning the 'whiny' award. :laugh:

[Lateralus]

I think it is IT
Without more information, I can't really say more with confidence.

Would conducting experiments on unsuspecting ITs offend the little bit of extroverted feeling you have buried?

[ThatGirl]

As for whininess, I guess that depends on how it's defined. I think Extroverts are more likely to verbalize their feelings and grumble but it's just words -- at least for me it is. I complain quite easily about things but it doesn't mean much. I have no problem with E's winning the 'whiny' award.

I agree. My gripes are generally superficial no matter how they are laid out. Is gripes tend to be more uncomfortable in an uncomfortable serious sort of way.

[ThatGirl]

Without more information, I can't really say more with confidence.

Would conducting experiments on unsuspecting ITs offend the little bit of extroverted feeling you have buried?

Lets do it

[Lateralus]

Lets do it
Sure, why not?

[Lateralus]

Wait, you were talking about the experiment. Well, that could be fun, too.

[ThatGirl]

Its not bad if no one gets hurt. Its just watching

[ThatGirl]

Wait, you were talking about the experiment. Well, that could be fun, too.

ass

[Lateralus]

ass
Whoa, a value judgment!

[Trinity]

No experiments on making the ITs cranky kaythanks.

[ThatGirl]

lol!

[Lateralus]

No experiments on making the ITs cranky kaythanks.
There's really not much you can do to stop it.

[Trinity]

*gets cranky, plans revenge*

[Jack Flak]

I dont think I have ever met an easy going I.
You're frequenting the wrong circles.

If you were the only ENTP I'd known, I'd say "I'm here to tell you ENTPs are all high strung and low down."

Edit: Wait, I know several ENTPs, and that's still true. Huh.

[Dwigie]

I'm cranky..my brother is IT he's way more laid back than I am though.Doesn't work in all cases...

[Leysing]

What if you notice only the cranky, complaining Is? ;) You know, we tend to stay in the background.

[Haphazard]

and for some reason Is like to open up to me....a lot

You? of all people? I really can't imagine why.


For chatty 'Es' we have some coping mechanisms built-in -- namely 'talking it out' and being more likley to express ourselves before the point past frustration. This helps immensely curb any volatile outbursts before it gets to that point. 'Is' built in coping mechanism is having internal frameworks to 'process', but honestly in the realm of human relations the 'E' attempt at communication goes a lot further to dealing with the issue directly.

But -- but -- SAYING something about a problem before it's actually a problem IS whining! Is do not do this.

Is only whine... particularly IxTx types... when they feel extremely comfortable with the person they're whining to. Otherwise, forget it. They're a friggin lock box. ThatGirl, you should feel honored... or something.

Either that or they just really, really, really, really don't like you. From here, I can't tell which.

[Xander]

Errm I've been told if I were any more laid back I'd be horizontal.. Everyone has buttons to press that sets them off. Ever consider you rub most Is the wrong way?

[alicia91]

Depends how cranky is defined, but I would say that based on personal observation that don't agree. I'm an easy-going and my ENTJ husband is NOT. On the other hand, my ENFP daughter is, but my ISTJ son is not. So I don't think it has anything to do with I versus E. Funny that it's the J's that are uptight in my family.

[INTJMom]

I dont think I have ever met an easy going I.
The "P"s are pretty easy-going.
I have 2 ISTPs in my family and they are ultra easy-going compared to me! :smile:

[Udog]

You? of all people? I really can't imagine why.

Online persona != Real life persona.

Many Is are not as emotionally volatile than their corresponding Es. When an I gets in a funk, I think it tends to last longer.

[darkmoon]

I don't think crankiness is solely the domain of Is. Es can be too. Certainly I have never noticed that Is complain and whinge more than Es. I have many extraverted friends who complain about things a lot more than I do.

But it's worth considering that since the frame of reference for introverts is internal then they possibly appear more aloof and serious and hence cranky to outsiders. Ie they might appear angry when in fact they are just thinking to themselves (and maybe have somewhat of a blank expression). I do think they can appear darker than extroverts. But that is mostly because they think things over inside their own heads privately rather than publicly.

The other thing is introverts like their space and some peace so might get cranky if they are being hounded by an extrovert to be more extroverted!!! For an extrovert to understand what that is like they would need to do something like try to go to sleep at night with the stereo next to the bed going full blast and someone jumping on the bed non-stop! :shock: I flated with my ENTP friend for a while. She was great fun too live with since she had loads of energy. But she could never understand why I liked my own space and quiet and didn't necessarily want to party with 200 people every night. I get cranky when I am expected to be extroverted all the time and I imagine extroverts feel the same way if they have to spend a lot of time by themselves with no company. There is nothing wrong with this though.

I guess by crankieness I am refering to when things bother them or dont go their way.

Everyone gets pissed off when things don't go their way.

May I ask ThatGirl what the types are of the Is you are referring to? And you sound a bit angry that these Is are "cranky" so is this just a personal beef with a few individuals?

[norepinephrine]

When Is are trying to plan things. Particularly ITs. They get easilly frusterated with anything that is outside of the plan. But, being that they dont take affirmative action against the situation they are more likely to complain that one thing screwed up what they thought.

I'm afraid I don't see this at all. Things that are "outside of the plan" are the only things that add any spice to my life.

However, anyone coming to me with a problem will either get a quick answer or "let me think about it." And if I ask to think about it, the problem poser would be advised to go away - far away. Standing to the side with arms folded while tapping a foot... yeah, that would tend to frusterate me. (And yes, I did have an employer who would do that.)

[Hmm]

*Huffs* :steam:

[heart]

no, just questioning

Ok ok Is arent cranky sorry to make you all mad:)


I think part of the issue is that you misinterpret introvert emotions, you perhaps think they are mad or upset when they aren't.

[Athenian200]

I am. But I try to be civil in public anyway. I don't know how much of it leaks through, but I try not to seem cranky.

I do tend to growl, moan, or whine if I'm spoken to at home or some other "comfortable" environment, though, since I wasn't in "anticipating/attention" mode.

My general mood tends be more negative and tense than that of most E's. It should be about as easy for me to deal with the outer world as it is for an E to be alone and focus inwards with intensity. I have a feeling E's would be cranky too if they were forced to deal with their inner world as often as I's are forced to deal with the outer one.

[Little Linguist]

Hell, I'm cranky sometimes, and I'm an E. I would think we would show it more??? I could be wrong. I have no idea.

To be honest, I'm talking out my ass. :(

[Uytuun]

Maybe you're projecting.

(we also do cranky sarcasm)

[Trinity]

Hell, I'm cranky sometimes, and I'm an E. I would think we would show it more??? I could be wrong. I have no idea.

To be honest, I'm talking out my ass. :(
:wub: nice!
But seriously thatgirl, I'm an IT and cranky does not describe any of my moods, I do however get frustrated by incompetance and stupid statements about needing to be more extravert, I also go quiet when stressed which might be something that could be misread by anyone who doesn't know me, but I'm not cranky. That's all.

["?"]

I can't deny the crankiness, but it's usually the result of insufficient alone time and too many burdens having to be tended to. Otherwise I am least cranky in the morning hours before the world wakes up.

[prplchknz]

I can be cranky, especially if your a dog and wake me up by barking 6 in the morning. I don't know what you're barking at you stupid dog. No I do not want to play it's before noon, leave me alone. I'm not a morning person, even though I wake up early, I probably will not want any high energy around me until noon.

or when someone calls me cranky, I have a habit of making what someone accuses me as true. So the best way to get me to do something is accuse me of it...I've said too much :ninja:

or if their is constant noise going and I need sleep or get some work done, the smallest distraction distracts me, I can't watch tv or listen to music while doing homework.

[Grayscale]

i can get irksome, but at most it only lasts a few minutes

[Hmm]

I have a habit of making what someone accuses me as true. So the best way to get me to do something is accuse me of it...

prplchknz I hate the way you're always chatting with me.

[oasispaw]

i'm not cranky unless i'm hungry, have pooped in my pants and am really, really tired.

[ThatGirl]

Maybe I should switch it to, grumpy, short tempered, or demanding. The pattern I noticed was with ITs, specifically INTs.

Well ISTs as well but they tend to get distracted faster

[entropie]

Dont blame thee, who have no clue of your problems

[ThatGirl]

I don't have problems.

Entropie, I think youre intimidated by me....its cool... it happens.

[entropie]

^^

[oasispaw]

Maybe I should switch it to, grumpy, short tempered, or demanding. The pattern I noticed was with ITs, specifically INTs.

Well ISTs as well but they tend to get distracted faster

i can halfway agree with the int part... but the moments i've seen are fleeting/rare. not demanding though.

[ThatGirl]

^^

:)

[ThatGirl]

i can halfway agree with the int part... but the moments i've seen are fleeting/rare. not demanding though.

But they are there a lot even if they dont express them all the time......they are just generally more.......irritated, a lot

[Bella]

Yes, cranky a lot, but less cranky than people think. Think it has something to do with the serious expression on my face, people assume it's something else than just...well...a serious expression on my face.
Some people want to get "into you" when you're introverted...uhm,how's a better way of putting it......they want to 'come in' but not because they're interested in who you really are, it's more of a control thing I think. Get in and wreak havoc. THAT MAKES ME CRANKY!!!

[ThatGirl]

Yes, cranky a lot, but less cranky than people think. Think it has something to do with the serious expression on my face, people assume it's something else than just...well...a serious expression on my face.
Some people want to get "into you" when you're introverted...uhm,how's a better way of putting it......they want to 'come in' but not because they're interested in who you really are, it's more of a control thing I think. Get in and wreak havoc. THAT MAKES ME CRANKY!!!

From what I have observed from ISTJs is that they are fairly laid back, although they always look tense. It takes a lot to get them really mad. Moderate to very open minded actually.

[Bella]

From what I have observed from ISTJs is that they are fairly laid back, although they always look tense. It takes a lot to get them really mad.

Yeah, right through high school I had to hear, "what's wrong" and "are you okay?" when absolutely nothing was wrong! Well, nothing right there and then was wrong but I think all the underlying tension showed on my face.
Maybe has to do with ISTJ's not being very in touch with their own feelings, a lot might be going and everyone else can tell, except poor unaware ISTJ!:blush:

[ThatGirl]

Yeah, right through high school I had to hear, "what's wrong" and "are you okay?" when absolutely nothing was wrong! Well, nothing right there and then was wrong but I think all the underlying tension showed on my face.
Maybe has to do with ISTJ's not being very in touch with their own feelings, a lot might be going and everyone else can tell, except poor unaware ISTJ!:blush:

its in the shoulders and neck line, relax the posture a little.

[Bella]

Haha! Thank you for that!

[6sticks]

I'm cranky and easy-going. And if you don't like it you can stick it up, you know, just wherever, I don't care.

[Bella]

Preach it!

[ThatGirl]

I'm cranky and easy-going. And if you don't like it you can stick it up, you know, just wherever, I don't care.

Are you comming on to me:shock:

[oasispaw]

But they are there a lot even if they dont express them all the time......they are just generally more.......irritated, a lot

"like anybody could even know that." -kip dynamite

[ThatGirl]

I picked up a gal of bacardi on the way back from the cowboy bar

*We need an emoticon that shows that squinty tight jawed face people make when they are watching something about to hit someone over the head face.*

We need the ouch face... Id use that one a lot

[6sticks]

Are you comming on to me:shock:
No, I don't like you.

[ThatGirl]

No, I don't like you.

That line starts way over there.:smile:

[Bella]

I think we need human interaction more than we could eeeeeeeevar realise or admit to. Might get rid of some of the cranky.....who knows.....
Just one person at a time, PUH-LEEEZE.

[Haphazard]

I think you're possibly defining 'I'-ness the wrong way.

Your statement, "I have never met an easy-going 'I'" implies that either you don't know a lot of people (which would make me suspect that you're an introvert), or are using the wrong criteria to define 'I'. It's the same as the 'Loners are freaks' scenario you keep seeing. In these, if somebody has any outside connections whatsoever, they are no longer a 'loner'... even though there are a great many loners who do, you know, know a few good people.

A wild guess says that you know more Is than you think but don't identify them as Is because they don't fit the pattern you've 'noticed' of being 'cranky.' Because of this, the assumption perpetuates in your mind.

So... there. :tongue:

[prplchknz]

prplchknz I hate the way you're always chatting with me.

that's your own fault, if you get on vent... plus my aim sn is in my profile and I have pm and that wall thing.

[Little Linguist]

I'm cranky damn it!!!!!!!!! :steam: Right now!!!!!!!!!!!
:duel: :2ar15: :yim_phbbbbt: :threaten: :azdaja: :angry: :wtf: :wacko: :sick: :BangHead: :ng_mad: :ranting: :censored: :thelook:

[Bella]

I dont think I have ever met an easy going I.

I think I's are generally cranky.
I define 'easy going' as not making demands on those around you though, not as a lack of crankiness.

[hathor_sekhmet]

I am often cranky and irritable when I think of social interaction, but when it actually happens I usually feel good about it.

[bluemonday]

bloody stupid question!

[Mondo]

Not all Introverts are cranky, I'm an Introvert and I'm never in a cranky mood.

I think Judgers are more likely to be cranky personally.
J's live to NOT be easygoing.

C'mon who would be more likely to get all cranky on you- the ESFJ or the INTP? Think about it...

[sanveane]

^Negative. Very rarely cranky. Usually rather easy going...

[Mondo]

I disagree. Es are more prone to take action while Is just complain a lot

I think you are seriously misinterpreting what Introversion is about and have shown an inability to see things from the Introvert's perspective. Just because an Introvert doesn't choose to take action doesn't mean that the person goes on complaining about things.

In fact, I would argue that a reason why an Introvert doesn't take action is because he or she isn't bothered by so much and is able to let a lot of things slide. While the reactive and choleric Extravert WILL NOT let that thing go!! It makes him ill-tempered and grouchy and CHANGE must happen NOW!!! Kind of like a spoiled child at times.. however, I will admit that I might have shown an inability to see things from the Extravert's perspective. Like you, I am basing many of my claims on observation.

However, those who take action are often wondrously cranky.
This is far from the truth for the Extraverted Rationals but the ESFX types will often just throw a fit till they get what they want- if that isn't cranky- I don't know what is!

[Neo Genesis]

I'm hardly ever cranky, but for some reason whenever someone I know sees me, they think I'm in a bad mood, even if its the opposite. For example, when I went to class today, a girl I know made a comment about how I never smile, and that I always seem to be in a angry mood. This seems to happen all the time.

[bbites]

I'm very cranky most of the time. It annoys the heck out of people, including me. But I don't expect it to change anytime soon because I can't seem to learn to relax. I don't know a lot of introverts personally (none that I can tell, anyway) so I don't know if that's the general consensus.

[millerm277]

I don't think I'm usually cranky. I don't complain much, and I don't yell at other people much. Generally, I'm pretty easy-going and relaxed. The exception here being that if you've interrupted/messed up what I was doing I will "snap"/be annoyed with you...coming up behind me and yelling "HI!" is not a good idea when I've spent an hour making a part on the lathe to within a couple thousandths of an inch. (This happened last week...). Calling me at 7:30AM on a Saturday morning will get the same response..

[Mercurial]

I'm in a neutral to somewhat good mood most of the time and have gotten much better with age at turning down the Zone of Intensity when communicating with people. People that know me see me as laid-back and unflappable to the point that I get asked why I didn't get mad at something.

[Anja]

I was disconcerted, pessimistic and crabby quite a bit when I was younger. It was a miserable way to live.

I think a lot of it was that my values system didn't fit well with the world around me and as a 2 I wanted very badly to force change in my world for "the better."

After I figured out that the only thing I have much influence over is myself, I made some changes in my world view and seem to have become a 2w9. That's a relief!

I don't know. Was I born with the nine potential and developed it?

Edit: I was also raised strictly as an ISTJ and I think my mother's inability to understand where I was coming from and my willingness to conform to her ideas caused me a lot of emotional disturbance until I learned to know mysef and what I needed to feel content.

[gloomy-optimist]

I think it depends how you look at it with the crankiness. Do I get stressed when I don't have my own time and then become a bit on edge? Yes, probably way more so than most Es.
Do I get angry easily/ overreact to things? No, definitely not.

How cranky I am depends on how stressed I am. Naturally, I'm a very laid back person :)

[Eryndil]

I'm generally easy-going and always have been so, except when people wind me up to breaking point.

One thing that might make me cranky is when people make a rather negative generalisation about a large number of people, based on a subjective analysis of a very few experiences.

[Thursday]

cranky - no
more selective and not so easily amused and more critical of what we indulge in
i'd say so
intense - yes

[gloomy-optimist]

cranky - no
more selective and not so easily amused and more critical of what we indulge in
i'd say so
intense - yes

That's a good way of putting it :)

[01011010]

If someone asks me to repeat myself more than twice or declares an illogical statement as fact, I might become internally irritated and recognize that I am. Yet, I rarely express it outwardly.