Do sensors enjoy music more than the intuitive?

[Beat]

Plausible?

[Jack Flak]

In a different way, maybe, but no one could enjoy some music some of the time more than myself. It's perfect and ethereal.

[Jeffster]

We like it louder. But maybe that's just SPs I dunno. But people are always telling me to turn the music down in my car. And I'm like "what are you, my mom?" And then my mom says "Yes!" :blush:

[pure_mercury]

I like music more than most people do, and I am fairly close on S vs. N.

[heart]

I use music to go into deep Fi states. I'll listen to the same song many times over until get a euphoria. I enjoy music a lot. I cannot imagine enjoying it more, but then who knows?

[Members Only]

I use music to go into deep Fi states. I'll listen to the same song many times over until get a euphoria. I enjoy music a lot. I cannot imagine enjoying it more, but then who knows?

x2

I think N's may be able to gather more meaning from music than S's, maybe.

[Jack Flak]

I use music to go into deep Fi states. I'll listen to the same song many times over until get a euphoria. I enjoy music a lot. I cannot imagine enjoying it more, but then who knows?
That's what I was getting at, same same, but I don't apply a function to it per se. I've listened to "Man in a Suitcase" by the Police about twenty times the past two days, and I've known the song for many years.

[Angry Ayrab]

This is going to sound totally crazy and out of this world, but nothing pisses me off more than loud music in the car. I always listen to talk radio... all the time...

Most of the time music annoys the crap out of me. Then again, you will see me playing how to save a life on piano, or a letter to elise on guitar.... so I don't know what my point is on music. I guess I only listen to it if the lyrics are really meaningful, but then again I do listen to classical and enjoy it. I am confused...

My S and even some N type friends will listen to things just for the stupid sound... here is a little Gem that managed to annoy me to no end in the car with them.... they all turned on this new song about kissing a girl and liking it and they played it so loud and enjoyed it while I was just agitated to no end...

[heart]

That's what I was getting at, same same, but I don't apply a function to it per se. I've listened to "Man in a Suitcase" by the Police about twenty times the past two days, and I've known the song for many years.

That's very interesting. What kinds of effects do you get from doing this? The only reason I assume in mysef Fi is it is almost a religious experience level of feeling.

[Members Only]

I'm doing the same thing to Ok Computer (Radiohead) at the moment. It has been on repeat the last two days.

[heart]

My S and even some N type friends will listen to things just for the stupid sound... here is a little Gem that managed to annoy me to no end in the car with them.... they all turned on this new song about kissing a girl and liking it and they played it so loud and enjoyed it while I was just agitated to no end...

That song is like the worst song and they play it on the radio all the time. It just proves, stamp lesbianism...well faux lesbianism on anything and it will sell and people will claim to like it to be hip.

[Beat]

I enjoy the shit out of Third Eye Blind, but I don't think I see images of Jesus when I listen to it.

Not yet at least. :(

[heart]

I enjoy the shit out of Third Eye Blind, but I don't think I see images of Jesus when I listen to it.

Not yet at least. :(

I was refering to an intense, very high sort of emotional state, not concrete religious icons. Perhaps religious experience was not the best term.

[6sticks]

Ideally I'd listen to music for 90%+ of my waking life.

[Angry Ayrab]

I was refering to an intense, very high sort of emotional state, not concrete religious icons. Perhaps religious experience was not the best term.

I know what she is talking about here, and that is probably why I can't listen to alot of music... it seems to rub me really bad the wrong way, like churn my stomach or send shivers down my spine or conjure crazy memories from deep past.

[Beat]

I was refering to an intense, very high sort of emotional state, not concrete religious icons. Perhaps religious experience was not the best term.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn't really being serious with my post.

[heart]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn't really being serious with my post.

Just want to be sure no one got the wrong idea. ;)

[Sytpg]

I consume music in HUGE quantities, everyday, everywhere since I can remember. I also have a very varied taste.

I don't know if Ss enjoy it more than Ns but I sure as hell WORSHIP music.

[miked277]

I consume music in HUGE quantities, everyday, everywhere since I can remember. I also have a very varied taste.

I don't know if Ss enjoy it more than Ns but I sure as hell WORSHIP music.
same pretty much. music is one of my most healthy addictions right up there with air and water.

[Angry Ayrab]

same pretty much. music is one of my most healthy addictions right up there with air and water.

Why? Just because you say so?

[ajblaise]

They might enjoy dancing to music more..

[Aimahn]

I enjoy the ambiance of music a lot more. I use it more for my feeling side actually and really enjoy sort of the story it evokes in my head. I think its more of a tool to stir my imagination with my feelings, I'm not really into specifics of lyrics more how they combine with the background and how poetic they are with them.

I think rock on a commercial level is better than rap in this regard. Underground rap and intelligent rappers(jay z, eminem, nas, jadakiss are main stream rappers who I think fit the bill) or those with good flows and lyrical ability like biggie I think for me are the epitome of what I look for in music.

[colmena]

'enjoy'?


I used to get out of body experiences listening to ghazal or chant, or sometimes When The Levee Breaks (LZ). That's the highest state.

The next is floods of tears to music without sentimentality. Music that gets into your head and breaks you down.

The next is an experience of intensity. Like when it arrests you and your sense perspective suddenly changes. You're completely oblivious to the outside world. All that exists is your mind and what's happening to it.

Then there's the realistic depressive music - like Satie or Thomas Newman.

Then there's the lyrical/political depressive: The indulgently sentimental or political. Billie Holiday, Dylan, Cash, Marley, Nina Simone, Sam Cooke, the serious jazz gets stuck here too.

Then the sentimental - Etta James etc.

Elating - Jackie Wilson etc.

Fun - Motown, '60s rnr etc - whatever gets you dancing.

[scantilyclad]

Music is more than just music to me.
It's like...a therapy. Music and lyrical content has gotten me through many rough times in my life.

[phoenix13]

Plausible?

No.

...just... No.

No wait... no... how can I express this...

I've yet to meet another more passionate about music than I. Therefore, no.

EDIT: however a person with Extroverted Sensing will probably enjoy it in slightly different ways, but still...no.

[Jack Flak]

That's very interesting. What kinds of effects do you get from doing this? The only reason I assume in mysef Fi is it is almost a religious experience level of feeling.
I think it's the same thing you feel (I've pretty good intuition on the meaning behind words). I don't know about all this function mumbo jumbo, but I did score pretty high on Fi on a test.

[Tallulah]

I can't imagine someone liking music more than I do. But I'm very picky about what I like, and I can't ride in a car with someone playing stuff that I think is crap, without going nuts.

I have often wondered if sensors are more adept at mastering an instrument, though.

[Jack Flak]

I have often wondered if sensors are more adept at mastering an instrument, though.
Stop wondering, they are. Songwriting/crafting, I think I prefer Ns there.

[Randomnity]

I doubt something like "enjoy" music is type-specific. I'm sure both Ss and Ns appreciate it greatly, perhaps sometimes in different ways.

It could be correlated with having an extensive music collection, I suppose. But even that seems like a stretch.

[pure_mercury]

No.

...just... No.

No wait... no... how can I express this...

I've yet to meet another more passionate about music than I. Therefore, no. QED

EDIT: however a person with Extroverted Sensing will probably enjoy it in slightly different ways, but still...no.

You've met me in a way, haven't you?

[phoenix13]

You've met me in a way, haven't you?

I said MORE passionate... there's just no way! Well, there is, but I have yet to see it demonstrated. Pyaw!

[pure_mercury]

I said MORE passionate... there's just no way! Well, there is, but I have yet to see it demonstrated. Pyaw!

You need to have a face-to-face argument about music with me sometime.

[Antisocial one]

From what I have seen, yes.

[phoenix13]

You need to have a face-to-face argument about music with me sometime.

Oh, it's ON! ...wait, what would we be arguing? Who loves music more? Easy, my ENFP enthusiasm will outshine your ESFJness like the sun outshines the moon. ...bitch. (:alttongue:)

D.C. meetup. Be there or be lame!

[mlittrell]

it's not that they like it more or less

as an example of Si and music
Si - tend to see images when listen to music, music might remind them of images and places in the past

vs

Ne and music: The only way i can explain Ne is quite cliched. Ne seems to enjoy music for purely the possiblities in music.

that was a terrible way of explaining it ^

it seems that music is filtered through the functions

for example me, an ENFP, i like music that has great variety, a lot going on but not too complex, and possiblites (all Ne), then i take this and apply the different parts of the song to different emotions and apply it to myself (<-- all Fi), this then allows me to, in a way, take my emotions and sort them out and put them in order (<--Te) and after this Si grounds all of it in reality

a filter is the best way i can expalin it, its not that what people listen to, its why

[Beat]

No.

...just... No.

No wait... no... how can I express this...

I've yet to meet another more passionate about music than I. Therefore, no. QED

EDIT: however a person with Extroverted Sensing will probably enjoy it in slightly different ways, but still...no.

Alright..... just, ok......

ALRIGHT!

[phoenix13]

Alright..... just, ok......

ALRIGHT!

I... just... you're dead. I'm... I'm going to kill you. Because... you are... I just... maggots eating your flesh... because.... like.... 'cause.... DEAD!

[Uberfuhrer]

One thing I notice is that Sensors are better at following the lyrics of a song.

I think Intuitives would prefer classical music or instrumental music -- the kind that plants visions in your mind. This kind of music has a very elusive and abstract meaning to it which transcends words.

[mlittrell]

One thing I notice is that Sensors are better at following the lyrics of a song.

I think Intuitives would prefer classical music or instrumental music -- the kind that plants visions in your mind. This kind of music has a very elusive and abstract meaning to it which transcends words.

planting visions in you mind is a very Si concept.

its why we like it not what we like that is different. lyrical vs. instrumental would fall under "what" we like. imo

[Beat]

I... just... you're dead. I'm... I'm going to kill you. Because... you are... I just... maggots eating your flesh... because.... like.... 'cause.... DEAD!

Yeah, alright.

wut?

[FDG]

it's not that they like it more or less

as an example of Si and music
Si - tend to see images when listen to music, music might remind them of images and places in the past

vs

Ne and music: The only way i can explain Ne is quite cliched. Ne seems to enjoy music for purely the possiblities in music.

that was a terrible way of explaining it ^

it seems that music is filtered through the functions

for example me, an ENFP, i like music that has great variety, a lot going on but not too complex, and possiblites (all Ne), then i take this and apply the different parts of the song to different emotions and apply it to myself (<-- all Fi), this then allows me to, in a way, take my emotions and sort them out and put them in order (<--Te) and after this Si grounds all of it in reality

a filter is the best way i can expalin it, its not that what people listen to, its why

I think, mlittrel, that you're ESFP. Also if the person on your avatar is you. Could that be possible?

[Angry Ayrab]

I think, mlittrel, that you're ESFP. Also if the person on your avatar is you. Could that be possible?


Milttrel... you noob... now this post can be misconstrued as weird (in regards to the rookies thread).

[mlittrell]

I think, mlittrel, that you're ESFP. Also if the person on your avatar is you. Could that be possible?

uh no thanks though. and yes it's me. and lol at Angry Ayrab, thanks.
ya im a bit of a noob to the whole forum thing so if i say something weird, as this statement might be, forgive me. not a noob to mbti though so the ESFP thing is actually kinda funny.

where are you getting ESFP from...explain?

[pure_mercury]

Oh, it's ON! ...wait, what would we be arguing? Who loves music more? Easy, my ENFP enthusiasm will outshine your ESFJness like the sun outshines the moon. ...bitch. (:alttongue:)

D.C. meetup. Be there or be lame!

Can't make it. Leaving for L.A.!

[Uberfuhrer]

Si is just as dependent on sensations as Se. Si savors sensations while Se experiences them in breadth. As an extraverted perception function, Se seeks variety of different sensations.

Ni and Ne are both equally dependent on internal visions. Intuit means to look inward, Introvert means to turn inward, Extrovert (Extravert) means to turn outward. Taken together, Ni savors inspiration internally, Ne seeks variety of inspirations.

Ni tends to have difficulty expressing visions. By stark contrast, Ne is very good at expressing visions and hypnotizing the audience with the charisma of its expression. The main problem with Ne and its visions is that, like its fellow extraverted perception function Se, Ne is merely interested in breadth of the vision. So while Ne is good at expressing visions, it is more content with leaving others with the application of it.

Ni lives the vision internally in what could be described as pure imagination. An Ni is likely less interested in expressing the vision towards the outer world, but merely to proclaim it. An Ni vision is less interested in affecting the outer world, but rather interested in living the internal images in the mind -- walking the inner landscape.

Si is dependent on external objects perceived through the senses, and turned inward. Unlike Se, Si is interested in experiencing sensations in depth and savoring them internally.

Which brings me to Si and its perception of music. Of any function, Si is most in tune with the inner forms of concrete experience. Where Se will likely dance to the music and live the intensity of engaging in physical impulses, Si will passively appreciate the forms and beauty derived from music.

In the case of N and its way of looking at music, Ni will transform the sensory experience of listening to music into an internal flight of fancy. For Ni, music or any other sensory experience is merely the starting off point for an esoteric journey in the imagination. Ne will hear music and look for ways to expand it -- Ne is interested in transforming the outer world through internal insights. Ne will look at the external world and find ways to make it better.

[mlittrell]

ok ya so you just explained the basics of functions lol ya my explaination was a little rough but props for taking the time to type all of that out lol. finally, a good explaination.

[phoenix13]

Can't make it. Leaving for L.A.!

Lame! Actually, I'd like to apologize for the aggression. You see, I had been sitting in this chair for 3 or 4 hours straight in a room with no windows with the door closed. Thankfully, I've moved around since and have returned to a state of normalcy... sort of. Thank you.