View Full Version : Same Personality Types Rub Each Other The Wrong Way?
NashK
08-28-2008, 02:25 AM
It just hit me today, after much observation, that people with the exact same personality type tend to avoid each other and, in general, rub each other the wrong way. For example, in my community there are two brilliant INTJ's who are almost exactly the same in interests and personality. But they can't stand each other, and constantly denounce the other one publicly.
My mother, an ENFP, knows two ENFP's and avoids them like the Dickens. When I mentioned to her the similarity in MBTI, she got nervous, and started finding all sorts of differences between them and her.
Finally, there's my younger sister and I, both INFP's. I think she's a great person, but I dislike talking to her because there is no dynamic happening between us at all. Plus, it feels strange- as if I'm talking to someone copying the things that make me unique.
Anyone else have this? Does it make sense?
entropie
08-28-2008, 02:28 AM
gosh that title sounds nasty xD
Jack Flak
08-28-2008, 02:45 AM
I prefer to be the only INTP in the room, irl. There's no competition, and no one to decipher my cleverness. I generally like being around INTJ, ENTP, INFP quite a bit. But INTJs online throw me for a loop. Perhaps they want to anonymously remove their facade of sanity and togetherness. They're completely bonkers.
animenagai
08-28-2008, 03:19 AM
i actually think i agree. i think i've been around a few ENFP's, and though it is nice to talk about a lot of similarities, it doesn't create an interesting dynamic. i'm very much a 'touch-feely' person, but i don't think i ever am when i'm around other NF's in general. they don't give you that 'what the fuck?' of 'get away from me!' look, which is really why i give hugs out in the first place :). this is just an example of course, i'm sure there are more.
Haphazard
08-28-2008, 03:28 AM
But INTJs online throw me for a loop. Perhaps they want to anonymously remove their facade of sanity and togetherness. They're completely bonkers.
They don't want to remove it... they're just taking it off for a while. That facade of sanity and put-togetherness is a rather constricting corset.
I had noticed this pattern with INTJs, but I wasn't sure if it held true for the other types. I wonder if there's a pattern? From what's here, it might be an Fi/Te thing.
helen
08-28-2008, 03:52 AM
I've never met another INFJ, or if I have I didn't recognize them.
Jack Flak
08-28-2008, 03:55 AM
Oh, but it is funny when I'm with an INTP and ESFP at the same time. I'm subtly derogating the ESFP in a good-natured way, constantly, and the INTP laughs at everything I say while the ESFP is oblivious.
Lithium
08-28-2008, 04:08 AM
i wouldn't say always, i appreciate the qualitites in other istps, but i don't know any that i hang around with all that much. i've seen some same types not get on and some that do.
ofugur
08-28-2008, 04:18 AM
although, my ENFP brother and I have similar personality types, our general philosophies on life clash greatly. he's an enneagram type seven, so he values instant gratification and enthusiasm, while I, as a four, romanticise introspection and longing.
SquirrelTao
08-28-2008, 04:24 AM
I honestly don't know the type of most of the people I interact with. I do know a few people online outside of this forum who've taken an online MBTI quiz just for fun and who have turned out to be either INTPs or INFPs depending on the quiz (just like me), and I have gotten along well with them. Then there was one INFP who never seemed to like me. His oversensitivity combined with mine did not work well at all. And he really knew how to hurt my feelings, better than most people who try, who usually miss their mark.
nolla
08-28-2008, 04:28 AM
I don't really know any INFPs, but the one's that I suppose were... they were too freakin INFPs! It is at the same time boring, frustrating and in a way intimidating. You don't really have any spark if you are both like "I understand you, tell me more"
But I guess this is one of the little ironies in life. First you want to find someone like you, then you cant stand them.
Harmony
08-28-2008, 04:33 AM
Although I haven't consciously met another INFP , I do have the opportunity to occupy the same home as two ENFPs (father and younger sister). I can say I've observed this type of behavior before, although that sample might be tainted because my father has admitted and even bragged about his superiority complex.
I myself usually get along with them quite well, even if we clash from time to time.
ixquic_creation
08-28-2008, 04:50 AM
My boyfriend is an ENFP. Most of my close friends are NFP's. All are more extroverted that I am, but there are a few INFP's.
We joke about starting a commune. We'd always sleep past noon. And share everything. Cuddles all over the place. It'd be a sensualist's paradise. Soft fabrics and giant fucking pillows. Cats, dogs, and other soft furry animals everywhere. We'd have a massive vegetable garden.
Paqui and I would heal people. My boyfriend and Tiff would teach. And Ade would do whatever it is that she's going to be brilliant at.
We'd be a force so brilliant... we'd solve cold fusion in 2.5 seconds.
To celebrate, we'd have cake and punch. Then get into a food fight. :)
When the introverts want their hermit time, we have personal hideyholes to... um... hide in.
Music, literature, and theater abound.
We'd hire an ESTJ to take care of the bills, of course.
Usehername
08-28-2008, 04:53 AM
My ENFP dad and INFP bro get along so well. For parenting that style match works well.
nolla
08-28-2008, 05:05 AM
My ENFP dad and INFP bro get along so well. For parenting that style match works well.
INFP - INFJ works well too in parenting.
ofugur
08-28-2008, 05:36 AM
also, i have three INFP friends. with one of them, there's always a sense of silent competition: who's more unique? who's more insightful. i feel like i have to "one up" others with my musical taste, personal philosophies, etc.
DigitalMethod
08-28-2008, 05:59 AM
I find INTJs online to be fun and thought provoking but sometimes they over do the whole logic thing and seem to stereotype themselves into being machines. Which can be okay, to just toss around fun ideas and such, but nothing... warm comes out of it... I dunno.
disregard
08-28-2008, 06:04 AM
I get on very well with INFPs. I find them interesting and I never notice myself dismissing them because they'd "be too INFP" or "too much like myself". It's the INFJ that often rubs me the wrong way. INFP are from Mars; INFJ are from Venus. :D
Mort Belfry
08-28-2008, 06:35 AM
I don't really know many INTPs, but I friend easily with other Ti-Dom/Aux, ISTPs, ENTPs and ESTPs.
InaF3157
08-28-2008, 11:53 AM
Not at all in my experience. I tend not to get along great with people who are easily offended, take themselves and the world too seriously, or are preachy.
I'll probably get stoned for this, but whatever.
I have found that I have a tendency to offend Fs where no offense was intended and where Ts would have found none. Perhaps it is because of bad experiences with immature Ts, but I have also noticed a tendency for some Fs, and NFs in particular, to assume that I am insulting their intelligence because of their different hierarchy of preferences. Then defensiveness. Nothing could be further from my inclinations or interests. The NTs I have met are more secure in themselves on this front so there is less of a need to walk on eggshells with them.
Then there are the preacher-figures who think their own solemn visionary light suffices to place them atop a soapbox, never mind the deficiencies of their visions. There is a not-so-fine line between compassionate advocacy and preaching. In my experience (a critical qualifier), Ts have been a bit more skilled at toeing the line, never mind the allegedly superior EQ of Fs.
There was one easy to offend NT, but he's borderline F, and I know of two preachy NTs. But their typing is questionable on other bases, so I await more examples to blow my observations out of the water.
All that said, I like people regardless of type who can lighten up and not take things too personally and can let a grudge go when it really doesn't warrant the energy to hold on to it.
Trinity
08-28-2008, 12:43 PM
If I'm gonna instantly get bad vibes and clash with someone (irl) they'll be a NT but not INTJ specifically, I find I usually respect and understand where they are coming from.
I can see it happening. I guess it would just depend on the individual person.
I personally hit it off with all of the other ENFPs I ever met.
One ENFJ I felt a bit of tension with, because I'm used to being the only enthusiastic learner in class. When she came in.. it sorta felt like competition, but we hung out and actually bonded really well.
The only personality I kinda sometimes avoid are a few INFJs in my life. Sometimes they make really black/white extremely cynical/negative comments that really just kill the mood. So I avoid them every so often.
animenagai
08-29-2008, 08:44 AM
just for the record, this does not mean i don't get along with ENFP's. we respect each other and can have fun together. i just can't seem to find any ENFP's that i've really bonded with on a deeper level.
Leysing
08-29-2008, 12:56 PM
I'm afraid of people who resemble me a lot and I try to avoid them. Most people consider me to be rather enigmatic and hard-to-read and I'm used to it - I can "hide" behind it. When someone thinks the same way as I do and has no trouble reading me, it feels like they are penetrating my privacy. :D
But I've got one INFP friend (I've known him for years) and we get along really well. He's a stronger F than I am, whereas my N is stronger than his.
animenagai
08-29-2008, 01:18 PM
I'm afraid of people who resemble me a lot and I try to avoid them. Most people consider me to be rather enigmatic and hard-to-read and I'm used to it - I can "hide" behind it. When someone thinks the same way as I do and has no trouble reading me, it feels like they are penetrating my privacy. :D
But I've got one INFP friend (I've known him for years) and we get along really well. He's a stronger F than I am, whereas my N is stronger than his.
INFP's could be more private than i thought. do you guys long for someone to share everything with, or are there always things you want only yourself to know?
nolla
08-29-2008, 02:02 PM
INFP's could be more private than i thought. do you guys long for someone to share everything with, or are there always things you want only yourself to know?
There aren't many things that I wouldn't share, but there aren't many people who I would share them with. And its also a lot more simpler than this. If I talk with people, I don't concentrate on the things being said (like, where he works or what kind of house he has) as much as how things are said. Things that I remember about people are their personalities and expressions, not the facts. So this makes me also tell stuff about myself that are really more about the way I think than what I do or have done. So, it might seem like I dont share anything about myself while I actually am sharing the things that I am interested in.
phoenix13
08-29-2008, 05:25 PM
There are two people I used to know who I highly suspect were ENFP. Both were male. While this probably doesn't exist outside my twisted head, the dynamic seemed such that I became a hard skeptic with aggressive undertones and they became fluffier and thought I didn't really like them. In fact, I thought they were fantastic. But I did feel more aggressive and irritable when with them.
In typical over-analyzing fashion, I'll attribute the dynamic to 1) an attempt to counter balance them, or 2) an expression of self-dislike. I don't know which... could be both. Gender is a third variable that may or may not hold significance. We'll see at the D.C. meet-up when I chill with other ENFP gals.
Lastly, let us never forget the banana llama: :bananallama:
Leysing
08-29-2008, 05:39 PM
INFP's could be more private than i thought. do you guys long for someone to share everything with, or are there always things you want only yourself to know?
I don't have The Need of Sharing Everything, but I don't have practically anything I couldn't share if I just happened to trust the person enough. No skeletons in the closet. I mean, I'm happy to discuss and share thoughts, but it's not a must.
I, however, have such an enormous amount of thoughts that it's pretty impossible to share everything. :D
miked277
08-29-2008, 07:44 PM
in a work setting i love other NTs and INTPs. in a personal friendship setting i could see there being a few bumps in the road. of course, if work is life for you then sure... go meshugina :)
Pavilion
08-29-2008, 11:46 PM
I get along with other INTPs pretty well.
I've thought about this sorta thing before though and I can't imagine two EJs of the same type getting along very well unless they see things very much the same.
sophiedoph
08-30-2008, 12:11 AM
This tends to be true for me too. I'm INFJ and they generally irk me :) I get along really really well with INTJs, INTPs, and INFPs.
SillyGoose
08-30-2008, 12:18 AM
To my knowledge, I haven't met any other ENFP's but I think we would get along just fine. Actually, probably GREAT :D
INTJMom
08-30-2008, 12:20 AM
It just hit me today, after much observation, that people with the exact same personality type tend to avoid each other and, in general, rub each other the wrong way. For example, in my community there are two brilliant INTJ's who are almost exactly the same in interests and personality. But they can't stand each other, and constantly denounce the other one publicly.
My mother, an ENFP, knows two ENFP's and avoids them like the Dickens. When I mentioned to her the similarity in MBTI, she got nervous, and started finding all sorts of differences between them and her.
Finally, there's my younger sister and I, both INFP's. I think she's a great person, but I dislike talking to her because there is no dynamic happening between us at all. Plus, it feels strange- as if I'm talking to someone copying the things that make me unique.
Anyone else have this? Does it make sense?
I think you're noticing the opposite of the axiom: "Opposites attract."
If opposites attract - which they do - then it stands to reason that likes will be opposed.
Of course this isn't and hard and fast rule.
locke
08-30-2008, 03:51 AM
I think I'm an INFP, but I'm pretty scatterbrained as well. I can really relate to alot of this.
when i was little (9yrs old)
i would go to the trash can in the kitchen with the intention to pee
AvereX, I used to do the same thing when I was young, except rather than the trash can it was the refrigerator. Luckily I'd always catch myself.
I've walked into stop signs.
I tend to pace around the house, randomly entering rooms, opening and closing doors when I'm thinking/daydreaming. This can sometimes bother the people I live with.
I have an INFJ friend and he's much the same way. I used to think J's were the tidy, organized people. We'd spend much of our time talking about philosophy and social justice. He's at college studying political science. I can't stand college and prefer working outside the system.
locke
08-30-2008, 03:54 AM
Umm... that last post was supposed to go on this other thread here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/nf-idyllic/6379-infjs-scatterbrained.html#post231765).
mlittrell
09-03-2008, 03:48 PM
I can clash with ENFP's sometimes...now INFP's, I do great with. I actually tend to get along really well with XSTP's and XSTJ's. My two best freinds are an ENTP and an ENTJ.
I can smell Fi dominant individuals from a mile away. My first initial reaction is certainly attraction. But when I move closer and examine them, more often than not I'm repulsed. I recognize, especially in myself, that Fi is a very volatile force. At it's worst, it's haughty and at it's best, it's serene. Personally, I've encountered more individuals who fall into the former category rather than the latter category.
I've known 3 INFPs in real life. One was my roommate, and while he was a really good guy, he bugged the crap out of me. Whenever he got into the witty but mindlessly detached mode (something I've done many-a-time), I'd get super irritated even as everyone else was laughing.
The other two were women, and I got along with them pretty well. However, we were like two magnets, attracted to each other until we got too close, at which point we pushed each other away.
Xander
09-04-2008, 01:17 PM
I'd have thought that some pairings of the same type won't get on because they see their own faults in the other. I presently have two INFPs in a group and each swears that the other is a whiny little girl (both males I shoudl point out).
Personally I only tend to have real trouble with ENFPs and ENTPs... not too sure why. Both I offend really easily... usually without realising it... :whistling:
Actually, come to think of it, I tend to get on with EJs and IPs best. Just not always INTPs. Apparently I'm too "unstructured" for many INTPs... an odd complaint in my humble opinion.
Apparently I'm too "unstructured" for many INTPs...
UNstructured!? I thought you were a damn J! ;)
re: OP
Looking back through my life, in all honesty, I tend to get along best with EF types. INTPs tend to be ok. I had an ISTJ room mate and we couldn't fine any common ground and really rubbed each other the wrong way. I think I just need the EF to reach out, because I won't.
Xander
09-04-2008, 01:34 PM
UNstructured!? I thought you were a damn J! ;)
Someone has to organise if you won't :tongue10:
Looking back through my life, in all honesty, I tend to get along best with EF types. INTPs tend to be ok. I had an ISTJ room mate and we couldn't fine any common ground and really rubbed each other the wrong way. I think I just need the EF to reach out, because I won't.
:yes: Me too. It's nice when you're all cold and icy to come back to a nice warm fire :)
Okay so sometimes there's an errant flame but that's half the fun ain't it?
:D
mlittrell
09-04-2008, 02:55 PM
uhhh i didn't post that ^
lol
weird
Sytpg
09-04-2008, 03:12 PM
Is there any guide to accurately type people in real life (and in real-time) ?? Because I see a lot of you talking about your "ESTP" friends or your "INFJ" co-worker and the only people whose type I know are the handful of people I know in real life, who took the test.
How do you do it? Is it just guessing? (i.e. this guy procrastinates like there is no tomorrow ergo he's a P) I/E and J/P might be easier but what about S/N and F/T?
Xander
09-04-2008, 03:17 PM
uhhh i didn't post that ^
lol
weird
That's me not checking what I'm pasting :doh:
INTJMom
09-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Is there any guide to accurately type people in real life (and in real-time) ?? Because I see a lot of you talking about your "ESTP" friends or your "INFJ" co-worker and the only people whose type I know are the handful of people I know in real life, who took the test.
How do you do it? Is it just guessing? (i.e. this guy procrastinates like there is no tomorrow ergo he's a P) I/E and J/P might be easier but what about S/N and F/T?
Most people are just guessing,
though some might have had profiles done at work or something.
For the most part though, I assume people are guessing.
I have an INFP sister who is convinced she can accurately guess people's types by looking at their photograph.
But MY question is: how do you know?!
Her claims are not falsifiable, yet she behaves as though she is 100% accurate.
(It's a little irritating.)
Trinity
09-04-2008, 03:23 PM
Most people are just guessing,
though some might have had profiles done at work or something.
For the most part though, I assume people are guessing.
I have an INFP sister who is convinced she can accurately guess people's types by looking at their photograph.
But MY question is: how do you know?!
Her claims are not falsifiable, yet she behaves as though she is 100% accurate.
(It's a little irritating.)
Socionics (http://www.socionics.com/advan/vi/vi.htm) claim that.
Xander
09-04-2008, 03:26 PM
Is there any guide to accurately type people in real life (and in real-time) ?? Because I see a lot of you talking about your "ESTP" friends or your "INFJ" co-worker and the only people whose type I know are the handful of people I know in real life, who took the test.
How do you do it? Is it just guessing? (i.e. this guy procrastinates like there is no tomorrow ergo he's a P) I/E and J/P might be easier but what about S/N and F/T?
Bad practice there my friend. If you try to decide letter by letter it's a lot harder and filled with risk. NF, NT, SP and SJ are usually the first to be decided upon. After that it's more a question of knowing the type as a whole. For example I have a friend who I thought couldn't possibly be an ENFP but he was actually tested as one repeatedly. He's quite and a little asocial... however his cupboards are jammed with just junk, oddly his room is sparsly furnished though, and his PC has vast quantities of ecclectic music and photos on it yet he's obsessed with optimum setup. As such it's not that he's loud and insists that you love him or kill him but more that he reminds me of my other ENFP friend in his hidden behaviour.
Personally I type by tick box. Whichever type you manage to tick the most criteria for is my first guess on which type you are.
Of course I keep changing the criteria just to keep people guessing :smile:
Sytpg
09-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Personally I type by tick box. Whichever type you manage to tick the most criteria for is my first guess on which type you are.
Of course I keep changing the criteria just to keep people guessing :smile:
I see. And what criteria do you use? What is your "bible", if you will. Because if I'm looking at something, say, an ENFP trait, like "charisma" - there are numerous types who are supposed to be charismatic (most E's ?).
Xander
09-04-2008, 03:55 PM
I see. And what criteria do you use? What is your "bible", if you will. Because if I'm looking at something, say, an ENFP trait, like "charisma" - there are numerous types who are supposed to be charismatic (most E's ?).
Ooo bad question... I get complained at cause my checklist for ENFPs is kind of trying to compare them to role models like Scrat and Tiggr :D
ENFPs knacker me out, are usually enthusiastic for romance and such, tend to party hard and can drink a lot... can be concerned with physique but never really end up with a regimen so to speak. Of the three that I know all have an area of interest (well usually more than one) which recieves more than what would be considered perhaps sensible amount of time and money devoted to it. One of these hobbies is almost always socialising.
Oh and I tend to find with ENFPs that you can hurt them in an instant but if you try and cheer them up then they use their critical thinking to try and analyse why you are saying what you are.
Oh and I tend to find with ENFPs that you can hurt them in an instant but if you try and cheer them up then they use their critical thinking to try and analyse why you are saying what you are.
Dude, retract the claws and you'll be able to wrestle without anyone actually getting hurt! All that practice and it hasn't taught you anything yet huh? :tongue:
Xander
09-04-2008, 04:34 PM
Dude, retract the claws and you'll be able to wrestle without anyone actually getting hurt! All that practice and it hasn't taught you anything yet huh? :tongue:
Oh right...
Wait...
I have claws? :huh:
Sytpg
09-04-2008, 04:46 PM
Ooo bad question... I get complained at cause my checklist for ENFPs is kind of trying to compare them to role models like Scrat and Tiggr :D
ENFPs knacker me out, are usually enthusiastic for romance and such, tend to party hard and can drink a lot... can be concerned with physique but never really end up with a regimen so to speak. Of the three that I know all have an area of interest (well usually more than one) which recieves more than what would be considered perhaps sensible amount of time and money devoted to it. One of these hobbies is almost always socialising.
Oh and I tend to find with ENFPs that you can hurt them in an instant but if you try and cheer them up then they use their critical thinking to try and analyse why you are saying what you are.
Tiggr? For real? :P
So what is your INTP stereotype (character) then?
Xander
09-04-2008, 04:57 PM
Tiggr? For real? :P
So what is your INTP stereotype (character) then?
ME.. of course :D
And let me tell you... few people pass THAT test!!
Have to keep the numbers down you see... I'm special :D
(I actually find INTP the hardest to guess at due to my own particular slant on the type... they're all frickin 5s and I'm a 9!!)
INTJMom
09-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Socionics (http://www.socionics.com/advan/vi/vi.htm) claim that.
"V.I. (Visual Identification) is the fastest and most reliable method of Type identification of today."
"fastest and most reliable"
Whoa! That's scary!
Stupid people.
raindancing
09-05-2008, 08:12 AM
hmm don't know if I've met any other INFPs before...
Other types:
INTP - my husband's type, we get along great and really click together :D
ENFP - my brother's best friend, get along well with him. He's fun to talk to and do things with. He can occasionally be annoyingly immature with bragging (he's 17), but if you just let him know something annoys you he's never offended and always cuts it out. He's a godsend for my brother (ISFJ).
ISFJ - father, brother and mother-in-law. I get along fine with all of them. Nothing particularly special, but nothing particularly bad either. Sometimes I can feel weighed down by different expectations they have, and sometimes I get frustrated when trying to talk to them about anything other than concrete subjects... none of the ISFJs I know are at all strong in the abstract arena. My father in particular can be frustrating (even though I love him dearly), he is quite set in his ways. :) My brother is the most open of the three, and I think a lot of this has to do with his ENFP friend (who he is VERY lucky to have. My bro is so shy he doesn't really have any other friends, but this ENFP has known him since they were little and has sort of made it his mission to bring my bro out a bit, and help him learn how to enjoy life. They seem to balance each other quite well.)
ESFJ - sister, mother and aunt. Hmm, this type has more of a tendency to rub me the wrong way... not excessively, but...
I just have a hard time with the constant talk about shopping/who's pregnant/who's getting married/etc etc etc... especially when it's my sister (she has very strong S and E and will talk non stop for as long as someone will pretend to listen). My mom has a very strong tendency to rub me the wrong way, but a lot of that is due to her being imbalanced...
For short amounts of time they can be fun though, or at least funny. :D
ESTJ - I know two people who I think are ESTJ (they haven't been tested). I don't know if they are very indicative of the type though, they both seem extreme Te to me. And they both drive me CRAZY. Really. It is rare that anyone actually affects me like this, but I can hardly stand being around them. I'd go into more but I don't want to rant. :rolleyes:
ESFP - my other sister (14 yr old). Get along great with her, heaps of fun. She has an excellent sense of humor (loves to tease and be teased). I think our common Fi helps us to connect. Her P is also refreshing in the midst of my SJ dominated family.
I would really like to meet some other Ns, especially ENTPs, they sound like a lot of fun. Currently where I live I don't know any Ns other than my husband, and it's been a little difficult not having anyone else to talk to/do things with (not that I can't talk to the Ss that I know, but it's just not the same...).
Hopefully this isn't too off the topic of what you were asking for in the OP.
mippus
09-05-2008, 11:41 AM
I must say that I like being around other INTP's.
I can imagine that it is an irritating, if not frightning, thing for other people to observe... ;)
Kristiana
09-06-2008, 05:43 AM
It just hit me today, after much observation, that people with the exact same personality type tend to avoid each other and, in general, rub each other the wrong way. For example, in my community there are two brilliant INTJ's who are almost exactly the same in interests and personality. But they can't stand each other, and constantly denounce the other one publicly.
My mother, an ENFP, knows two ENFP's and avoids them like the Dickens. When I mentioned to her the similarity in MBTI, she got nervous, and started finding all sorts of differences between them and her.
Finally, there's my younger sister and I, both INFP's. I think she's a great person, but I dislike talking to her because there is no dynamic happening between us at all. Plus, it feels strange- as if I'm talking to someone copying the things that make me unique.
Anyone else have this? Does it make sense?
Hasn't been my experience :) I married an INTJ and we're both extremely happy together. Also, three of my other close friends are INTJs, too.
Firelie
09-06-2008, 06:01 AM
Yeah, I like very few other INTJs. Obnoxious bunch, for the most part. :)
sassafrassquatch
09-06-2008, 06:22 AM
I don't care for other INTPs very much. Especially if they're 5w4, 4w5 or any kind of 4 on the enneagram. Non 4 INTPs seem alright though.
Jack Flak
09-06-2008, 06:38 AM
Tiggr? For real? :P
So what is your INTP stereotype (character) then?
I've said this before, and I will again: Daryl Zero in the movie Zero Effect. It's astonishing.
ESTJ - I know two people who I think are ESTJ (they haven't been tested). I don't know if they are very indicative of the type though, they both seem extreme Te to me. And they both drive me CRAZY. Really. It is rare that anyone actually affects me like this, but I can hardly stand being around them. I'd go into more but I don't want to rant. :rolleyes:
I recommend the "What do you think of ESTJs?" thread. (There, you can find others who hate ESTJs for the same reasons you do...) Or you could just meet some more ESTJs. Meeting two people of any "extreme" letter that's opposite to yours (like you did) is really all it takes to reinforce your negative stereotypes of their type. I mean, a person's personality isn't entirely defined by MBTI. I'm pretty different from the other ESTJ I know.
Speaking of him... I like him okay, but he only talks to a select group of people, and I'm not in it. I think I do that too, so I understand, and therefore don't have strong feelings against him. Truth be told, I feel like I have a connection with him, because he's the only person I know of my type, besides me. I find myself watching him when I'm around him and seeing how he acts around people, and comparing that to myself. (I hope that isn't too creepy.)
I would really like to meet some other Ns, especially ENTPs, they sound like a lot of fun. Currently where I live I don't know any Ns other than my husband, and it's been a little difficult not having anyone else to talk to/do things with (not that I can't talk to the Ss that I know, but it's just not the same...).
LOL! You're going to meet a LOT of Ns on MBTIc!!!
Spartacuss
09-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Nope. NTs, especially INTPs, irritate me least.
Sunshine
09-06-2008, 10:05 AM
Um yes and no. Half of the ISFPs I know irritate me to no end the other half are amazing. The ones that are really similar to me are boring and it's difficult to connect with them. The ones with really different enneagrams are interesting to talk to because we're not so similar that we can practically read each others' minds which is how it is with me and some ISFPs.
I had an ISFP classmate in HS that irritated me and we were really competetive with each other. We were both artists. The only thing I allow myself to brag about is the fact that I beat her at our school art contest. :D
Sunshine
09-06-2008, 10:11 AM
I've never met another INFJ, or if I have I didn't recognize them.
You should go meet one. They're amazing.
raindancing
09-06-2008, 11:10 AM
I recommend the "What do you think of ESTJs?" thread. (There, you can find others who hate ESTJs for the same reasons you do...) Or you could just meet some more ESTJs. Meeting two people of any "extreme" letter that's opposite to yours (like you did) is really all it takes to reinforce your negative stereotypes of their type. I mean, a person's personality isn't entirely defined by MBTI. I'm pretty different from the other ESTJ I know.
nono I didn't mean that I hate ESTJs!!
The two people I know who I think are ESTJ really have underdeveloped auxiliaries, I certainly wouldn't judge a whole group of people based on them! And I definitely agree that a person's personality isn't entirely defined by MBTI, I mean I really think it would be stretching to say it's actually defined at all. I think of MBTI more as a useful way to communicate with other people. It gives you words for things that otherwise could be difficult to talk about. (Although sometimes I wonder if it confuses things even further...)
So no hard feelings? I certainly don't have anything against you just because I have met some ESTJs I don't like and you happen to be of the same type. We're all unique. People wouldn't be so interesting if there were only 16 differences. :hug:
LOL! You're going to meet a LOT of Ns on MBTIc!!!
I guess that will solve the talking part, now I just to figure out the doing part...
Peguy
09-06-2008, 11:37 AM
Yes I can believe the concept of people of the same(or similar) types getting on your nerves the most.
I seem to get along with most INFJs here, but if an INFJ really gets on my nerves(like Kiddo did) - all Hell breaks loose.
This may explain why the one type that gets on my nerves the most are INTJs, since we're both Ni types - but we direct it in different directions.
Often with INTJs, I could see their point of view, but often scratch my head as to how they ever could come to it. Even when I want to agree with them, I just can't. And it's absolutely worse when I do agree with them(I can't even describe what a weird sickening feeling that is). Not true with all INTJs, but common enough.
I can say similar things about INFPs, another type that commonly gets on my nerves.
unconvinced
09-07-2008, 10:07 PM
i don't really try to type people very much these days, i did when i first discovered MBTI but i got bored with it and felt that it was kind of like judging people based on race or gender...but anyway, i tend to feel most comfortable around people similar to myself, but i rarely find people very similar to me =(
BlahBlahNounBlah
12-17-2008, 03:48 AM
I love other ENTPs. They're some of my favorite people. We can talk for hours, I never have to feel like I'm lecturing them, and they always know better than to take me too seriously. :hug:
I dunno. My ISTJs husband's ESTJ boss drives him crazy. My experience for about five months on the INFPg forum was that after a while it was sameold,sameold. Not enough variety to suit my taste but I don't remember anyone there aggravating me. Pretty comforting, affirming place.
Snowey1210
12-17-2008, 05:03 AM
I'm not big on the whole "birds of feather flock together" thing. I get along reasonably well with other ENTPs but ultimately it feels like I'm talking to myself, and that becomes kind of grating after a while. Conversation seems to lose it's meaning when you already know what the other person is thinking! lol
IDK123
12-17-2008, 05:08 AM
Well, INFPs tend to scare me sometimes. It's the weird "I'm trying to figure you out and vice versa" I get along great with most but it can get very eerie. To throw people for a loop, I can act very ESFP at times IRL.
Sytpg
12-17-2008, 06:03 AM
I don't think I know that many ENFP (i don't type). But I guess it's safe to say we like being the center of attention and we could very well do without competition lest conflict arises (something we don't like very much).
greed
12-17-2008, 03:53 PM
My ENTJ dad and I get along very well, but he seems to think that I think exactly as he does sometimes, which has caused problems in the past. I can completely understand my ENTJ coworkers and exactly follow their thought processes, but some of them are a bit too decisive and forceful for my tastes.
There are many, many other types that are more difficult for me to get along with than my own.. possibly because I understand it the most.
erinavery
12-17-2008, 04:00 PM
Oh, but it is funny when I'm with an INTP and ESFP at the same time. I'm subtly derogating the ESFP in a good-natured way, constantly, and the INTP laughs at everything I say while the ESFP is oblivious.
THAT is hysterical!
erinavery
12-17-2008, 04:05 PM
well i've just realized that my oldest sister and most likely my dad are/ were enfp's too and us three are the most similar and definitely have a special kind of bond...my favorite people...i think.
so...i kinda wish i knew more...i think i like other enfp's a lot...unless they take some of the negative behaviors to the extreme...i can see that sometimes and it bugs me.
bluemonday
12-17-2008, 04:18 PM
It just hit me today, after much observation, that people with the exact same personality type tend to avoid each other and, in general, rub each other the wrong way.
Anyone else have this? Does it make sense?
Nope. I know 3 INTPs irl and love them all. One is my BFF, one is my fav. cousin, another is an ex-colleague and friend I have a lot of respect and affection for. I have found that I understood them on a wordless, effortless level which is comfortable when you go through life mostly banging heads with folk.
Of the people here, I'd say I appreciate other INTPs the most, their humour, their communication style, their generally easy-going natures. I feel like I know where they are coming from (usually). But this is because, as we all know, INTP is the bestest type in the world!
JocktheMotie
12-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Of the people here, I'd say I appreciate other INTPs the most, their humour, their communication style, their generally easy-going natures. I feel like I know where they are coming from (usually). But this is because, as we all know, INTP is the bestest type in the world!
Hooray us! I wish I knew another INTP irl. Not one of my friends seems to enjoy pontificating about things I like. It really sucks.
erinavery
12-17-2008, 04:23 PM
intp's totally one of my favorites!! i don't know any irl though.
Cimarron
12-18-2008, 08:50 AM
So for the thread title, it looks like some do and some don't...?
My dad is an ISTJ too, and so is a girl I'm friends with. I get along fine with both of them, but not much happens (we just kind of sit there) unless there are other people to carry the conversation.
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