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am_i_evil666
08-27-2008, 08:12 PM
The idea for this topic came to me after I saw the obama handwriting topic. So, is it possible to type someone after his handwriting? Or at least to get some clue from it?
I'll post 2 samples of handwriting and ask you to say what you think about them....please :smile::smile:

sample 1:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/french_kiss_revolution/scan0001.jpg

sample 2:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/french_kiss_revolution/scan0002.jpg

what say you? :happy2:

Lateralus
08-27-2008, 08:13 PM
No!

Jennifer
08-27-2008, 08:32 PM
As far as gender, the first appears male, the second female.

The second, besides the consistency of letter form, is consistently round and open. Without rules on the page, the sentences are still straight (unless they cheated by using lined paper underneath). The amount and style of the loops and swirls suggests an expansive and free-flowing personality. The content of the page is articulate, the argument definitely follows through, but it's interesting to note that the objects are less technical and more about feeling and ambiance -- relationally oriented. There seems to be offense here not in a technical way but on a personal level. So... possibly ENFP.

As far as the content in the first, the language is not as comfortable. There are some really vague phrases where the person seems to be thinking the audience will understand the content ("Everyone was entertained; there were not many incidents") plus a focus on tangibilities like quantities and money and things concrete. This tends to be an S thing. It's also by the book ("The purpose of this report..." is the opener) and the subjects are underlined and in the right spot -- but it all gives a feel of someone who is not intrinsically comfortable with writing, they're following the procedure they were taught without really feeling it. Male ISxJ, probably. (I'd think F due to the topic itself, but the lack of aesthetic consistency leads me more to T, who would just pay attention to the content more.)

Disclaimer: Obviously this is a hack reading, for entertainment purposes only.

am_i_evil666
08-27-2008, 08:49 PM
I can tell you that both are female, and both compositions were made after tasks given by an english teacher. And on the second, there had been no lined paper underneath.
But i was reffering more at the handwriting itself than to the content, as it's a little restricted by the task given and formal language limitations.

Snail
08-27-2008, 08:54 PM
My first feeling is that the one on top is probably a T type of some sort. I didn't read the content of the papers because I was focusing more on the initial impression of the penmanship itself. Either the top page was written by a lefty, or it indicates probable self-sufficience and confidence. The rounded letters on the bottom page look like they were written by an ENFJ or an ENFP, and the top page could be an introvert, probably a sensing type. ISTJ seems probable for the top page. I'd guess that the bottom one was written by a female, and the top is more ambiguous, but possibly also female.

Ah, yes, both female. Maybe even both the same ambidextrous female writing with different hands, although I do somewhat doubt that because some of the letter forms are different. :)

Jennifer
08-27-2008, 09:02 PM
...Ah, yes, both female. Maybe even both the same ambidextrous female writing with different hands, although I do somewhat doubt that because some of the letter forms are different. :)

Yes, I noticed some similarity... but the top has a backwards slant and the bottom not, and the lowercase h's are distinctly different, and so on. :)

am_i_evil666
08-27-2008, 09:28 PM
Actually, they were 2 different persons and both of them righthanded.
But, I would actually like to know what characteristics of the handwriting lead to the conclusion that one is an S or An N.

murkrow
08-27-2008, 09:32 PM
they both look female to me.

am_i_evil666
08-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Also, (kinda offtopic) I'd like to ask someone who knows a little graphology about how much the time when you write the text matters (for example, if you write it slowly, at home or if you have to write something quickly, which one of these shows more of the writer's personality) in analysing someone's writing.

Mort Belfry
08-27-2008, 09:59 PM
So, is it possible to type someone after his handwriting?

Nah.

milti girl
09-05-2008, 07:33 PM
Okay, I'm not too into graphology, as in I don't believe in those structured 'rules' that graphology has, but let me give it a shot from what I've read out of general interest.

For one thing, I felt right away that both of them were right-handed females. I admit I read the content to determine the sex of the writer for sure in the first page, and I still am not completely sure I'm right. Though writing a formal report, the writer has given some details that might seem insignificant to a male - eg. "also, we have managed to raise a larger sum of money than we did last year".

I will hazard a guess and say she's an S. I base this on her handwriting; she has embellished many of her letters, made them more flamboyant, such as the small Gs and Fs. (Well, so has the person writing the 2nd page, but I'll come to her later.)

Next, I think she is a T. Whatever she's written is to the point and sparse, and I'm not talking about content here. I'm talking about the way she has used each line economically, and she's a writer in a hurry, not dawdling over each word to see that it's the 'right' word that just 'fits' into the line. (For this reason, also, I think she's more ST than anything else - practical, that is.) For the same reason, and obviously she doesn't seem to be worrying unnecessarily about spellings, erasures, underlines, etc. She's organised her report under the bare minimum of headings that is a requirememnt of a formal essay.
So my guess is that writer 1 is an ISTP, though I may be WAY off track here.

As for writer 2, I'm much more partial to her as my handwriting is very similar to this. But I'll try not to be biased and give an objective analysis that is purely my opinion only.

I don't even need to check her content, I think she's an ENFJ. Her huge handwriting singles her out as an F at once. I don't know why, but Fs either have tiny or large writing in my experience. It's like they have so much to pour out that they either write too expansively and exaggeratedly and sort of dance across the page, or they let their steam out bit by bit in tiny ant-like forms instead. Either way, it's an almost unbroken line of thought that they portray.
I don't know whether she is an E or not, she could be either E or I. The fact that she has put a lot of pressure on the page shows that she has a more forceful personality, she's more sure of what she's saying, or maybe just that her pencil was better. But I think she's an E, because she doesn't seem to have hesitated at all in the writing of her letter. There are no breaks, stops, or rubbing out of anything.
And now to the N part of it. Her handwriting is more cursive and more readable than the first letter. But, more than that, it's more consistent. Although she has also made many of her letters very 'fancy', like the small Qs, Zs and Js, she seems to have done them more as a personal quirk than out of any real effort to have pretty writing.
The fact that she's a J seems quite obvious, given that she is perfectly able to stay within the margin and write straight on the page with no diversions in direction.

This might all sound very biased and untrue, and I guess I could be wrong on many things. But, like I said, this is my own reading of the two samples. Hope they're useful.

Disclaimer
And no, I'm not one of those people who will talk about (what I think are) irrational things like Neptune and Mars being at right angles and thus forming an angle of creativity in your biorhythm or whatever :D
I just based the above analysis on my gut feelings and the most easy way of explaining why my gut feelings felt the way they did. So no bashing, please :unsure:

placebo
09-07-2008, 09:40 PM
My guess: First is N and second is S.
The first reminds me a little of my own writing and the second reminds me of some S's writing. My reasoning is as simple as that.

runvardh
09-07-2008, 09:49 PM
I remember two members doing this kind of analysis before. I won't name names, but they know who they are as well as a few of the older members.

am_i_evil666
09-08-2008, 07:35 PM
Hmmm.....you were all quite wrong :devil: .
In fact the first person is an ENFP, but apparently everyone concluded she was a ST.
The second person is an ESTP, and not a NF.

placebo
09-09-2008, 01:46 AM
Hmmm.....you were all quite wrong :devil: .
In fact the first person is an ENFP, but apparently everyone concluded she was a ST.
The second person is an ESTP, and not a NF.


I think you'll find above that I did indeed guess the first person was an N and the second was an S.

:D

am_i_evil666
09-09-2008, 06:47 AM
I noticed. Your simple reasoning was apparently genial. :smile:

milti girl
09-09-2008, 08:30 PM
So I was way off track...:shock: lol anyway I never said I was a professional :D But my instincts are totally off track. However I knew you would reveal the real personalities. I still think the first writing looks S and the second N!

PS: And that was a mean trick :steam:

am_i_evil666
09-10-2008, 04:31 PM
mmm.....i wonder.....how does someone's writing look N or S? :sadbanana:




*i see almost everyone said the first was S and the second N....*

placebo
09-12-2008, 06:48 AM
mmm.....i wonder.....how does someone's writing look N or S? :sadbanana:




*i see almost everyone said the first was S and the second N....*

I don't know if you can tell but you'd have to look at more samples to find out I think!

Besides my simple reasoning I used before, I would say that I did sense a sort of N or S feeling from the writing samples you posted that I can somewhat analyse. The first one I thought was N because of the very loose, flowy handwriting she used. It seemed to care less about details and following a proper structure of writing out each letter and instead kind of 'felt' her way around with the words. Letters blend together, unlike the second sample where everything is spaced evenly. It seems like each word as written as a whole, instead of letter-by-letter. It also looks quite rushed, but really natural. I dunno why but that kind of also indicated P to me.

For the second sample it kind of felt more SJ to me, just probably because it seemed so neat and orderly and so matter of factly written out. It also looks really feminine (so F)... [ but that's not even what she is so... um, I guess that doesn't work ]

I would have no idea how to determine I / E, unless maybe I actually read the things. I did not at all bother to read the content btw.

Does this make any sense? Hold any weight? Or am I just pulling stuff out of my --- :0 ?

There are so many different ways you can analyse things really.

milti girl
09-13-2008, 08:10 PM
The second handwriting looked a bit like mine. :D

substitute
09-13-2008, 08:28 PM
I think the first looks left-handed.
And I'm going to leave it there. Veterans will know why :D