Why are we (INTJ/INTP) so rare?

[BlackOp]

Is it because having 8 kids isnt practical?:) I am going to create an army of INTJs...start donating to sperm banks worlwide. :devil:

[entropie]

rofl xD

you have to make a visit to germany. There are areas that are even completly N-free . When I walk outside on the streets to get me some cigarettes, police tends to stop next to me and ask me "if everything is ok".

Still thinking about the "ultimative response". My best one so far was: "Do I look not ok ?!" :D

[Haphazard]

Why are we so rare?

To be honest, the world couldn't handle too many of us.

[entropie]

a modest estimation of the situation ;)

[BlackOp]

Why are we so rare?

To be honest, the world couldn't handle too many of us.

I think I might spearhead a revolution....."project mastermind". Get all INTJ men to donate yearly on 4th of July....(the whole rocket exploding metaphor). I could become the greatest philanthropist of the i-tard generation. Someone has to save these kid's future children.......:ninja:

[Haphazard]

I think I might spearhead a revolution....."project mastermind". Get all INTJ men to donate on 4th of July....the whole rocket exploding metaphor. I could become the greatest philanthropist of the i-tard generation. Someone has to save these kid's future children.......:ninja:

The biggest issue with that is that most people still like to do it the old fashioned way.

[Night]

We represent a poor contingent within a larger psychological coalition.

[BlackOp]

The biggest issue with that is that most people still like to do it the old fashioned way.

What....in the bathroom? Thats like 3 INTJs a day.

[Haphazard]

What....in the bathroom? Thats like 3 INTJs a day.

No. I mean the other part.

[BlackOp]

No. I mean the other part.

I know what you meant....;)

[Martoon]

Why are we (INTJ/INTP) so rare?
Jes' natural selection doin' its thang.

[BlackOp]

Jes' natural selection doin' its thang.

Thats my point. Imagine if 10% (as opposed to 1%) made up the general population. I might actually meet one in "real life".;)

[entropie]

If you give me the specs, we can try to build a machine INTJ. Any sensual equipment she needs, will be handled with absolute discresion :)

[Kora]

I think there may be lots of INTx. But it's just rare to find one IRL.

[Mondo]

For an old-time joke-they just have trouble getting laid. They are not :pornstar:
Personality is somewhat hereditary in nature..

[BlackOp]

If you give me the specs, we can try to build a machine INTJ. Any sensual equipment she needs, will be handled with absolute discresion :)

Sounds like Weird Science....

[BlackOp]

For an old-time joke-they just have trouble getting laid. They are not :pornstar:
Personality is somewhat hereditary in nature..

Thats the irony......my dad was brilliant and my mother pretty. I dont really have trouble getting "laid"...its the other 23 hours.:run:

[entropie]

Obviously not a fan of quantum mechanics :)

[BlackOp]

Obviously not a fan of quantum mechanics :)

If there is a will, there is a way. You realize how rich we would be.....that in itself is a problem.:doh:

[Usehername]

I vaguely recall seeing a population distribution of MBTI in Australia or somewhere that had INTJs as like 10% of the population.

I don't know what to make of that vague memory. It seemed like a legit stat.

[Haphazard]

I vaguely recall seeing a population distribution of MBTI in Australia or somewhere that had INTJs as like 10% of the population.

I don't know what to make of that vague memory. It seemed like a legit stat.

I suppose it naturally follows that most of the current Australian's predecessors were criminals... :yes:

[BlackOp]

I suppose it naturally follows that most of the current Australian's predecessors were criminals... :yes:

Are you a criminal if you never get caught...."the best thieves arent in prison".

[Trinity]

I vaguely recall seeing a population distribution of MBTI in Australia or somewhere that had INTJs as like 10% of the population.

I don't know what to make of that vague memory. It seemed like a legit stat.

Whoa, well where the eff are they? I mean if there was a considerable amount wouldn't we be better represented in an environment like this... or are we?

Where's me Aussie INTJs at? :hi:

I suppose it naturally follows that most of the current Australian's predecessors were criminals... :yes:

*Ignores taunt* I don't see how 'INTJ' or 'convict' is genetic :rolli:

[Aerithria]

I suspect there's a lot more of us than we realize, it's just that we're well spread out. I have a feeling that ESxx types wouldn't mind spending a lot of time with people who function similarily, whereas if you stuck a bunch of INTx people in the same room we'd get bored of the redundancy. However, I doubt that natural selection is sophisticated enough to spread us out like that, so I'm just going to fall back on the whole 'God hates us' argument and be done with it.

[Haphazard]

*Ignores taunt* I don't see how 'INTJ' or 'convict' is genetic :rolli:

Hum. The OP seems to think that a lot of things are genetic, so it was more a taunt at him than at anyone else...

And God doesn't hate us... God just has skewed priorities.

[Trinity]

Ya, I'm not too sure about the concept of setting up an INT breeding program to spawn little INTlets :thelook:

[Owl]

This is a slight derail, but I recently read a Newsweek article about men who regularly sold their semen in the early days of artificial insemination. Some of these guys have dozens of children they don't know and can't find. In terms of evolutionary biology, this is better than winning the lottery... twice. If genetic dissemination were like target shooting, then selling sperm would be akin to using a shotgun.

edit: oh, and I bet these guys were NTs. Just a guess.

[Ilah]

On heredity.

Neither of my parents were INTJ or INTP. Do most of you have at least one parent of your type?

[colmena]

I wonder if the unconscious/evolutionary drive of INTs is to create and propagate more of them?

[Trinity]

On heredity.

Neither of my parents were INTJ or INTP. Do most of you have at least one parent of your type?

Not me, the closest in my family is an ENFJ brother, parents are both sensors.

[Lexlike]

On heredity.

Neither of my parents were INTJ or INTP. Do most of you have at least one parent of your type?

I have many ISFx types on the mother family side (she is isfj) and my father seems to be EXTP, but his father seemed to be a INTx, was a great geometrician, but a lousy father etc.- never was succesfull in his job or studies...

[InaF3157]

On heredity.

Neither of my parents were INTJ or INTP. Do most of you have at least one parent of your type?

Not even close.

[Maabus1999]

Enjoy being rare I say.

[Gabe]

Answer:

because INTJs/INTPs (gasp!) aren't actually so rare?

Funny how some people can score off the charts on "questioning" but they never question this idea of type rarity.

[Haphazard]

Answer:

because INTJs/INTPs (gasp!) aren't actually so rare?

Funny how some people can score off the charts on "questioning" but they never question this idea of type rarity.

Fun fact: INTx types only appear rare because they spend most of their time shut in and never actually see each other.

[sassafrassquatch]

Fun fact: INTx types only appear rare because they spend most of their time shut in and never actually see each other.

THIS. http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/sign/sign0160.gif

[Wolf]

On heredity.

Neither of my parents were INTJ or INTP. Do most of you have at least one parent of your type?
Same here.

But my grandfathers were both almost certainly INTX (INTJ and INTP), and both rather successful in their own ways (including financially). Their children did not fare as well, though - one in five were relatively-successful, one-in-ten was some kind of NT. There was no pattern or association there, though (the INTJ had an INTP son).

Interestingly, quite a few of their grandchildren are NTs and NFs.

[Usehername]

I vaguely recall seeing a population distribution of MBTI in Australia or somewhere that had INTJs as like 10% of the population.


Answer:

because INTJs/INTPs (gasp!) aren't actually so rare?

Funny how some people can score off the charts on "questioning" but they never question this idea of type rarity.

:huh:

1/16th < 10% = not rare questioning.

[Enyo]

For an old-time joke-they just have trouble getting laid. They are not :pornstar:
Personality is somewhat hereditary in nature..

Heh. I'd never had a problem with getting laid. Men wanting to sleep with me was easy to attain. (Having boobs probably helped with that.)

Men being able to put up with me for more than six months? Now *that* was a bit harder to find. :-)

[Jack Flak]

Heh. I'd never had a problem with getting laid. Men wanting to sleep with me was easy to attain. (Having boobs probably helped with that.)
All females have that covered if they're acceptable looking. All they have to do is stand in a public place and wait.

[Usehername]

I wonder if the unconscious/evolutionary drive of INTs is to create and propagate more of them?

isn't this true of everybody and their traits?

or do you mean that we're more likely to want to proactively convert people to be like us, whereas SPs and NFs would want people to "live and let live" or "be their authentic selves"?

[Jack Flak]

isn't this true of everybody and their traits?

or do you mean that we're more likely to want to proactively convert people to be like us, whereas SPs and NFs would want people to "live and let live" or "be their authentic selves"?
Not fielding the question per se: I have noticed that SJs think everyone is capable of having the SJ mindset (and rightly should work toward that), whereas NTs realize they're different.

[Usehername]

Not fielding the question per se: I have noticed that SJs think everyone is capable of having the SJ mindset (and rightly should work toward that), whereas NTs realize they're different.

Probably NTs realize people are different sooner than SJs, however, that doesn't mean some of us (xNTJs, perhaps?) don't try to convert people to seeing the world the way we do. Conscious manipulation of the standard vs. unconscious manipulation not knowing that there are different standards for types of people.

[Uberfuhrer]

The reason N's are rarer than S's: It only takes one person to have a vision, but it takes considerably more people to go through the details of realizing that vision.

[BlackOp]

The reason N's are rarer than S's: It only takes one person to have a vision, but it takes considerably more people to go through the details of realizing that vision.

Usually 20 years after they're dead......

[Alpha-6]

This can't be correct, but I always assumed its because EXFXs (ex.) simply feel the need to pass their traits to as many children as humanly possible, while INTs are having difficulty bustin their first nut. Most INTs I know don't want kids anyway.

[Pavilion]

I don't think we're as rare as most people think, but that a lot of us turn off our N functions in an effort to fit in with this primarily S dominated world. I know it wasn't until I was eighteen that I finally grew tired of hiding my thoughts and opinions from people because I knew it would just make them think I was weird.

Not that we aren't still hard to come by.

[Ilah]

I was just reading something by Jung, and he says extroverts have more kids. Introverts, have less kids, but are more cautious and therefor live longer. Each helps preserve the species in different ways.

[alisonmuses]

in my family, my dad and my younger sister are ENFPs and my mom and i are both INTJs who tested as ISTJs earlier in life. it's pretty similar.

[Dominicus Griswold]

If both of your Parrents happen to be INTJ's, I would figure that due to a form of conditioning (i.e. living with two cold hearted, crackpots, who may or may not hover over your bed with a knife every wednesday night......)you would pick up there traits, after all, most children tend to imitate their parents at a young age...

[Nocapszy]

Answer:

because INTJs/INTPs (gasp!) aren't actually so rare?

Funny how some people can score off the charts on "questioning" but they never question this idea of type rarity.

Where the fuck do you live Gabe?

[animenagai]

Why are we so rare?

To be honest, the world couldn't handle too many of us.

i agree with this one. if you look at the 4 temperaments, the largest group are the SJ's, then SP's followed by the NF's and finally the NT's. in short you have the defender of the norms, the norm followers and then the creative people. it looks like evolution to me. you wouldn't expect the creative bunch to be the majority. we have a small amount of people who strive to be creative and a lot of other people to carry things out. humanity would probably be doomed if we only had N's. S's would at least survive. they may not do anything new, but they would do alright. i like the status quo as it is now.

[reason]

Why are we (INTJ/INTP) so rare?Because you're all freaks.

[Mort Belfry]

It's because the goverments of the world euthenaise most of us in secret and cover it up.

But I would have said NFJs are the rarest.

[disTant_eCHo]

I am INTP and my mom is INTJ. My brother is ENTJ and my best friend of 11 years is ENTP. My mom also suspects that my dad was an INTP, so these rarities don't really seem to apply to me. I've also consciously known one other INTJ and an INFJ, another type that is supposed to be rare.

EDIT: My cousin is INTJ, also, I forgot.

EDIT 2: My other brother took the test today and came out as INFJ, which is supposed to be the rarest so yeah I would say my family is comprised of rarities which to me doesn't seem entirely too rare.