learning styles and type

[Ilah]

Learning styles and type, are they completely unrelated?

The main distinction I see in learing styles are:

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own

on line class v. traditional class

learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)

My preference is visual and hands on and learning on my own. I do much better learning things by myself, working at my own pace. I did pretty good in school, but I think I would have learned much more if they just left me in the library by myself for the whole day. I am wondering if part of this is being introverted or maybe INTJ or maybe unconnected.

I would be interested in hearing how other people learn best and if they think it relates to their type or not.

Ilah

[Didums]

They are absolutely related imo. I think it mostly has to alot to do with S vs N.

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning

Well these both seem S oriented to me, I'd like to see a poll made or something to see what people prefer (and it would have to be an open poll so we could see their type).

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own

This one is easier, E vs I.

on line class v. traditional class

Hmm, this one is wierd. It could be either E vs I, or P vs J.

learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)

Definitely P vs J. Even in a guided scedule at school I go by my own pace.. due dates are flexible :)

[Orangey]

Well I prefer learning on my own, which I suppose has to do with introversion. As for visual, auditory, or hands-on, I'd say that I prefer visual the most and hands-on the least. In grade-school I used to hate hands-on experiments, and I believed that I was incapable of learning anything in such a manner. As to guided learning or learning at my own pace, I'd say that I overwhelmingly prefer the latter. That being said, I have come to realize the importance of guided learning because it promotes action and discipline.

[Kanamori]

I only feel strongly about guided learning... I hate it. It demotivates me.

[colmena]

Semantic and scheduled. No homework. Very theoretical subject matter for lone voluntary learning.

=impossible early on. =My paradox.

[substitute]

heavy visual with a slant towards hands-on. Aural is a total dead loss for me, as I forget what I'm told within minutes of being told it, most of the time. And learning on my own, at my own pace, though combined with some big group/small group stuff. IOW I like to do my learning and reading and stuff alone, then meet up with other people and talk about it, bounce ideas off them and stuff and that not only clarifies things and consolidates them in my head, but also allows me to get any stuff I might've missed.

Just learning in classrooms with schedules though, drives me insane and I lose all motivation and invariably quit.

[cafe]

For me:
Auditory, small group, traditional, guided.

[Randomnity]

highly visual (pictures/graphs, not words) for learning theoretical stuff, hands-on for learning practical stuff.

Small group is best.

Never taken an online class, but I doubt I'd learn much.

I need guided learning and deadlines, because otherwise I don't have the motivation to sit down and actually learn, I just procrastinate forever.

I'm not sure that any of this is type-related, though, at least for me.

[alicia91]

I'm exactly the same as Randomnity. While I'd like to answer that I'd prefer to learn at my own pace -- it just ain't going to work. Nothing would get done.

[cafe]

That's why I chose guided, too. :yes:

[PinkPiranha]

When tearing down, say, an International's rear brake drum assemblies, I wanted to see my boss do it first and observe everything done correctly, then mimic.

[edcoaching]

Visual, auditory, and kinesthetic (the hands on) are often referred to as learning modalities rather than style and there was a great summary of research on them in The American Educator that basically reported that matching modalities doesn't improve student performance because the modality has to match the content. For example, you have to read to learn to read (visual). You can't become a lab expert without performing the lab experiments (kinesthetic and different from learning the theories via texts).

Most type ed experts consider S and N of great importance, as Didums pointed out. I find the next most important is E and I when training classroom teachers because I teachers see E behavior as misbehavior. E teachers see I behavior as lack of motivation (those are generalizations but ones that are backed up by tons of teacher interviews). ALL the preferences matter but teachers can't plan for 16 types right off the bat and suggesting that they should sends them running for the exit doors.

I guess I emphasize figuring out strategies for when you have to work outside your comfort zone, since anyone who goes very far in education will need to do so. For example, I flunked the freshman chem titration lab 22 times--it requires Se and I"m dominant Ni. It's kinesthetic and I'm visual. I had to learn to turn off Ne completely by counting drops out loud, marking them off, etc., to pass it--and we had to pass 8 such labs with no less than an A to pass Freshman Chem, so I was motivated!

[Samuel De Mazarin]

I was always fascinated by the Dalcroze eurhythmics training method and the Kodaly system, which advocated universal musical education... musical training is a great boost to other kinds of knowledge-acquisition, particularly in maths... and aside from sports, there are few disciplines as mind-body involved as music and dance...

[Grayscale]

hands-on, solo

trial and error :yes:

[Kyrielle]

Visual and hands-on. I, just like Substitute, have terrible verbal memory and sometimes even forget what we're talking about as we're talking about it.

By myself. Though I do like classroom settings and discussions, provided it's after I've learned the material well enough to be confident in a discussion. Or provided I've progressed enough in whatever I've been working on for a critique to make sense.

Traditional class. Taking something online would only have me zoning out and going and messing around on the internet instead of "being in class."

A little of both. I like to work at my own pace, but I also NEED deadlines or else I won't bother to do a good job of anything. At the same time, what I don't need is someone micromanaging me. If I get that, I lock up and do exactly what the micromanager doesn't want me to do. (Probably in some passive aggressive attempt to regain control over work that is mine and not theirs.)

[CaptainChick]

I learn best through intimate and engaging discussion/discourse/debate.

[luminous beam]

Learning styles and type, are they completely unrelated?

The main distinction I see in learing styles are:

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own

on line class v. traditional class

learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)



i think i prefer:
*visual, auditory and hands on
*small group or learning on my own if ppl are distracting me as opposed to helping me
*traditional class
*learning at my own pace

[Decon]

Going to an Alternative high school where the teachers each had a different style or teaching helped me strengthen where I was work and keep my skills up is what I was proficent and exceled in. So I'd have to say I'd do well in any style as long as I have my Zune playing my Metal playlist.

[ygolo]

I am Visual and Kinesthetic. Visual presentation of concepts is very important for me to learn theory. Symbolic presentation (as in using equations) is second best. Words in english leave too much ambiguity for my tastes.

I like hands on learning. I hate learning something and not applying it in some way. I like to see things work in the real world. I am somewhat lazy however. So the hands-on learning ought not take too much energy or be tedious.

I am generally a reflectve learner, I like to learn my thinking for log times about the concepts I am learning--playign with them in my head, and dreaming up things to do.

I am a global learner. I like to see the big-picture and connections to other subjects/concepts. I usual find sequences of material to be rather arbritrary.

I understand things more quickly when presented in a deductive format, but I remember things longer when concepts are taught inductively. So a good mix is probably best. Inductive followed by deductive followed by Inductive feels like the most effective for me.

I learn a lot more on my own than in a guided format. Infact, even in the guided formats, I was most successful when the guided format is so slow that I've done my full exploration by them we move modules or subjects.

I like discussion after I've done a lot of thinking about subjects. So solatary work followed by group work is best for me.

[InaF3157]

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning
Visual and auditory

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own
Definitely Learning on my own! With a teacher could also be good.

on line class v. traditional class
No class. Just regular meetings with the professor/expert.

learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)
Schedule please.

Worst case scenario: large class with no set schedule, little teacher interaction one on one, and no regular testing.

[Thursday]

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning

Hands on

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own

me and the teacher/on my own

on line class v. traditional class

unconventional - i'd like to have class in a park


learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)

at my own pace

[prplchknz]

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning
auditory in combination of hands on

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own

me and the teacher/on my own or a small group

on line class v. traditional class

traditional class


learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)

combination of both. It depends on the subject some subjects I do great on my own others I need that extra push.

[Flush]

Cognitive Processes and Learning (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/learning.html)

[BlueWing]

Learning styles and type, are they completely unrelated?

The main distinction I see in learing styles are:

Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning

Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own

on line class v. traditional class

learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule)

My preference is visual and hands on and learning on my own. I do much better learning things by myself, working at my own pace. I did pretty good in school, but I think I would have learned much more if they just left me in the library by myself for the whole day. I am wondering if part of this is being introverted or maybe INTJ or maybe unconnected.

I would be interested in hearing how other people learn best and if they think it relates to their type or not.

Ilah

Introverted Thinkers tend to learn best through solitary contemplation.

Thus it would be best for them to engage in slow moving, one-on-one discussions and lengthy solitary readings as opposed to learning with a congregation.

Extroverted Thinkers are the opposite. The more their thoughts are vocalized, the sharper their intellect turns. As one ENTJ suggested, the best school for an ENTJ would be where two professors argue in class.

Extroverted Sensors learn best through hands on application.

Introverted Sensors learn best through quiet collection of facts and concrete information. Typical lecture serves them best.

Extroverted Intuitives learn best through exchange of ideas. Unlike the Extroverted Thinkers, discussion is preferred to debate, as they engage with the external world merely to process ideas, not to analyze them.

Introverted Intuitives learn best by sitting back and quietly collecting abstract information. Typical lecture would serve them best as well.

Extroverted Feelers learn best when all members of discussion bring relevance to ideas concerning their personal experiences and how this relates to society by and large.

Introverted Feelers learn best when direct applications to the human element are evinced. Unlike the Extroverted Feeling type, the Introverted Feeling type is concerned not with how personal experiences relate to society, but what they mean to the narrator. Participation from all members of the audience is not required, nor is the frequent sharing of sentiment. In fact it is even best that it manifests implicitly rather than explicitly, but the connection to the human element must be manifest to the Introverted Feeler in order to become motivated to learn.

[Little Linguist]

Introverted Thinkers tend to learn best through solitary contemplation.

Thus it would be best for them to engage in slow moving, one-on-one discussions and lengthy solitary readings as opposed to learning with a congregation.

Extroverted Thinkers are the opposite. The more their thoughts are vocalized, the sharper their intellect turns. As one ENTJ suggested, the best school for an ENTJ would be where two professors argue in class.

Extroverted Sensors learn best through hands on application.

Introverted Sensors learn best through quiet collection of facts and concrete information. Typical lecture serves them best.

Extroverted Intuitives learn best through exchange of ideas. Unlike the Extroverted Thinkers, discussion is preferred to debate, as they engage with the external world merely to process ideas, not to analyze them.

Introverted Intuitives learn best by sitting back and quietly collecting abstract information. Typical lecture would serve them best as well.

Extroverted Feelers learn best when all members of discussion bring relevance to ideas concerning their personal experiences and how this relates to society by and large.

Introverted Feelers learn best when direct applications to the human element are evinced. Unlike the Extroverted Feeling type, the Introverted Feeling type is concerned not with how personal experiences relate to society, but what they mean to the narrator. Participation from all members of the audience is not required, nor is the frequent sharing of sentiment. In fact it is even best that it manifests implicitly rather than explicitly, but the connection to the human element must be manifest to the Introverted Feeler in order to become motivated to learn.

Hmmm, I like to process and analyze ideas. Guess I'm a weird ENFP....:(

[Little Linguist]

First, I like to read and/or listen to others, while interjecting questions in order to clarify points if appropriate (otherwise, I will wait til the end). Second, I like to mull everything over in my head - puzzling over fantasy scenarios, testing out different ideas, seeing the value of this or that - sometimes I jot down notes or ideas because they are often flighty so I have to do that or else I will forget in the torrent of other ideas that just pop up. Third, I talk with a small group of people to sort of test out my ideas in spoken form. Then, after clarifying everything, I love to engage in all out WAR against the other group - ahem - I mean debate - ahem. Usually at this time, I also see the impact to others which may or may not have been clear from the start. Right, then I like to utilize this time to test out my ideas, others' ideas, and see which one is best. Then, I filter it through my own perceptions. At the end of class, I like to see which one is the best idea - not as a final answer - that almost never happens - but as a springboard to do more thinking and analyzing and talk with others whenever the opportunity arises.

DOH!!!! Do any of you other ENFPs do this?!?! :shock:

[Little Linguist]

Ohhhh, one big difference: Sometimes if I am doing something really specialized, I like one-on-one. Often, I will wait until after class and ask the teacher a question directly or have a session where I just talk about something else because usually my brain goes off on a tangent, and I want to have my question answered BUTTTTT, I do not want to distract the class. SO I will wait until afterwards. But I'm too flighty to spend like, an hour, talking to the professor - usually just 10 or 15 minutes after class and then I think and talk with others and refine my ideas. :yes:

[edcoaching]

Extroverted Intuitives learn best through exchange of ideas. Unlike the Extroverted Thinkers, discussion is preferred to debate, as they engage with the external world merely to process ideas, not to analyze them.

Introverted Intuitives learn best by sitting back and quietly collecting abstract information. Typical lecture would serve them best as well.

A ton of Ni's completely tune out during lecture--their own minds and ideas take over. Independent study on topics of interest, or chances to creatively explore ideas through their own inventiveness are often their preferred modes.

Ne's often drive to move beyond discussion to creation of new ideas--they're motivated to learn when they have chances to gather knowledge to convey it to others, for example. I remember an ENTP boss for example volunteering us (her 4-person team) to give a day-long workshop on a just-surfacing issue. When we pointed out we knew nothing about it, she said, "Neither do they. This is your perfect chance to learn..."

[Ilah]

My personal experience matches what edcoaching said about Ni. I don't do well at all in a lecture. I assumed this to be an auditory v. visual thing. I did well in school, but only because of what I learned at night from the books.

I like the exhange of ideas as well, but then I also ranked high in Ne according the the test at congnitveprocess.com. One of may favorite classes was called "seminar" style and it was mostly group discussion with the instructor moderating and adding his own insights.

[animenagai]

i have taken quite a few learning type quizes and every time they say i'm very mixed. pretty much equal across the board. i've read that ENFP's do like variety in learning. once again, MBTI shocks me with its accuracy.

on the big group vs small group theory, i disagree that E's necessarily like big groups. when the group is too big, only a few people talk. everyone else is afraid of being wrong or saying something stupid. lots more conversation in a small class. for that reason, i like the latter.

[animenagai]

First, I like to read and/or listen to others, while interjecting questions in order to clarify points if appropriate (otherwise, I will wait til the end). Second, I like to mull everything over in my head - puzzling over fantasy scenarios, testing out different ideas, seeing the value of this or that - sometimes I jot down notes or ideas because they are often flighty so I have to do that or else I will forget in the torrent of other ideas that just pop up. Third, I talk with a small group of people to sort of test out my ideas in spoken form. Then, after clarifying everything, I love to engage in all out WAR against the other group - ahem - I mean debate - ahem. Usually at this time, I also see the impact to others which may or may not have been clear from the start. Right, then I like to utilize this time to test out my ideas, others' ideas, and see which one is best. Then, I filter it through my own perceptions. At the end of class, I like to see which one is the best idea - not as a final answer - that almost never happens - but as a springboard to do more thinking and analyzing and talk with others whenever the opportunity arises.

DOH!!!! Do any of you other ENFPs do this?!?! :shock:

dude, i do that all the time! i usually whisper to my class buddy and try and figure things out with him. pisses people off sometimes :P. if i'm sure i see something that everyone else is missing or i'm just sure that i'm right, i jump right into the big conversation. i do both quite a lot.

[Eldanen]

Visual and hands on is the best for me. And I learn best by myself. I think that all that time in school where the teacher lectured us was pretty much a waste of time. Seven hours? Come on. I could have done it much faster if you would have just left me to it. Also, if I get into a group, I tend to talk crap more than work, so that's not very effective. I can also do well in a partnership situation.

[ofugur]

my preferences are visual, small group, traditional, setting and personal pace.



Introverted Feelers learn best when direct applications to the human element are evinced. Unlike the Extroverted Feeling type, the Introverted Feeling type is concerned not with how personal experiences relate to society, but what they mean to the narrator. Participation from all members of the audience is not required, nor is the frequent sharing of sentiment. In fact it is even best that it manifests implicitly rather than explicitly, but the connection to the human element must be manifest to the Introverted Feeler in order to become motivated to learn.

that's very true for me. i almost failed a freshman science class that introduced the basics of chemistry and physics. on the other, if i had to research those topics to find my supporting my spiritual belief, i'd push myself to find out as much as i could. chances are, however, even after all that research, i wouldn't truly understand what i had "learned."