Used to think I was an INTP

[Kleinheiko]

So, a while back, I learned about MBTI, and I tested myself and discovered that I was an INTP. I read the profile, and most things fit me, so I went with that. After learning more facts and retesting a few times, I eventually homed in on ISTP. Which fits much more nicely. I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP. But now I'm content with who I am, and am ready to PARTY!!!! i.e. sit quietly in the corner and observe everyone else partying. Seriously, Introvert, duh.

[Enyo]

Interaction with the human race is overrated, anyway.

Welcome. :)

[Jeffster]

So, a while back, I learned about MBTI, and I tested myself and discovered that I was an INTP. I read the profile, and most things fit me, so I went with that. After learning more facts and retesting a few times, I eventually homed in on ISTP. Which fits much more nicely. I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP. But now I'm content with who I am, and am ready to PARTY!!!! i.e. sit quietly in the corner and observe everyone else partying. Seriously, Introvert, duh.

Haha, I know what you mean! I thought of myself as totally unique, and was unhappy that my type is not one of the most uncommon ones! Haha. When I originally read the SP description, I dismissed it completely and said that is totally not me. But that was mainly because I saw the descriptions as being about the people I knew who were not interested in anything but getting drunk all the time, and I very much rejected that mindset. I think the traits that a lot of people think of as SP traits are all the extroverted types, and they forget about all of us introverted SP folks, who may come from the same impulse-motivated place, but actually have that built-in "check" on our impulses that the "Se-dominant" folks don't get held back by. ;)

Anyway, welcome to the forum, have fun! :)

[AllAboutSoul]

Hey! :hi: Welcome aboard, nice to meetcha.

[JAVO]

Welcome, former INTP. :hi:

[Randomnity]

Wow, how many of us are there? I swear the INTP --> ISTP progression is starting to become a law. Welcome.

[Sarcasticus]

Welcome :)

[locke]

Hi,

I used to think I was an INTP too. Then I realized I spent most my time fantasizing about being a reclusive, eccentric genius rather than actually theorizing about logical stuff. But now I'm just content with being an eccentric recluse who's fantasy prone. I do think I've managed to develop my T function while figuring this out though.

[Dwigie]

Welcome ex-intp. ;)

[Lexlike]

Fighting with the same problems of finding myself in the world ( that was so
typically inFp of me^^...).... anyway, Welcome!

[Cimarron]

I also made the switch from N to S over a few years between "testing". Seems that we have lots of stories like that. Welcome to the boards!

[evan]

i thought i was INTP too :)

welcome.

[Athenian200]

So, a while back, I learned about MBTI, and I tested myself and discovered that I was an INTP. I read the profile, and most things fit me, so I went with that. After learning more facts and retesting a few times, I eventually homed in on ISTP. Which fits much more nicely. I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP. But now I'm content with who I am, and am ready to PARTY!!!! i.e. sit quietly in the corner and observe everyone else partying. Seriously, Introvert, duh.

So, you're sure you like all that stimulation stuff? Well, okay. Good luck with being a crazy, self-destructive rebel instead of a clever scientist. ;)

Seriously, when I read Keirsey's SP description, my first thought was, "Okay, why are these people loose in the streets rather than in jail or something?" I just assumed that I probably felt that way because I was an Ni dominant (or possibly an SJ at worst), and had a real moral problem with Se as a result.

If the people who think they're ISPs on this site are really ISPs, though... then maybe his descriptions of Sensors were a little extreme.

Well, what ever type you are, welcome.

[Mort Belfry]

I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP.

Most Ti-Doms, from my experience, crave to be different.

[Athenian200]

Most Ti-Doms, from my experience, crave to be different.

I think those are Fi dominants... you must be mistaken. Because that doesn't make sense.

I've heard a lot of IFPs mistype as ITPs...

[ygolo]

So, a while back, I learned about MBTI, and I tested myself and discovered that I was an INTP. I read the profile, and most things fit me, so I went with that. After learning more facts and retesting a few times, I eventually homed in on ISTP. Which fits much more nicely. I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP. But now I'm content with who I am, and am ready to PARTY!!!! i.e. sit quietly in the corner and observe everyone else partying. Seriously, Introvert, duh.

Welcome, Kleinheiko.

BTW, INTP's aren't that much more rare than ISTPs, they are both around 5% to 6% of the whole population.

If I could navigate CAPT: Training, Books, Research for MBTI, Archetypes, Leadership, Psychological Type (http://www.capt.org) a bit better, I may be able to dig-up the actual stats (though I know someone has done that before on this forum).

[Jeffster]

So, you're sure you like all that stimulation stuff? Well, okay. Good luck with being a crazy, self-destructive rebel instead of a clever scientist. ;)

Seriously, when I read Keirsey's SP description, my first thought was, "Okay, why are these people loose in the streets rather than in jail or something?" I just assumed that I probably felt that way because I was an Ni dominant (or possibly an SJ at worst), and had a real moral problem with Se as a result.

I'M LOOSE, ATHENIAN, AND I'M COMING FOR YOU MWUAHAHAHA! :devil: ;)

If the people who think they're ISPs on this site are really ISPs, though... then maybe his descriptions of Sensors were a little extreme.

I think Keirsey focused on the traits of extroverted SPs a little more, because he focused on outward behavior, and you have to look a little harder to see those crazy impulses in us introverts. But he's dead on about a lot of the way we operate. Those impulses are still there, we just keep them in check a little better.

Sometimes. ;)

[PinkPiranha]

So, a while back, I learned about MBTI, and I tested myself and discovered that I was an INTP. I read the profile, and most things fit me, so I went with that. After learning more facts and retesting a few times, I eventually homed in on ISTP. Which fits much more nicely. I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP. But now I'm content with who I am, and am ready to PARTY!!!! i.e. sit quietly in the corner and observe everyone else partying. Seriously, Introvert, duh.

Not a thing wrong with ISTP! :D And welcome!

[Maabus1999]

So, a while back, I learned about MBTI, and I tested myself and discovered that I was an INTP. I read the profile, and most things fit me, so I went with that. After learning more facts and retesting a few times, I eventually homed in on ISTP. Which fits much more nicely. I was rather disappointed with being the much more common ISTP at first, because my artistic nature makes me want to be different than everybody else, more like the uncommon INTP. But now I'm content with who I am, and am ready to PARTY!!!! i.e. sit quietly in the corner and observe everyone else partying. Seriously, Introvert, duh.

Everyone is unique. MBTI "type" is just hardware. What you make of your life is your "software" and through personal growth you can become VERY unique.

Welcome aboard.

[Athenian200]

I'M LOOSE, ATHENIAN, AND I'M COMING FOR YOU MWUAHAHAHA! :devil: ;)

I'm not scared. SPs are so impulsive and have such short attention spans I'm sure you couldn't concentrate on me or keep me in mind long enough to actually find me. ;)



I think Keirsey focused on the traits of extroverted SPs a little more, because he focused on outward behavior, and you have to look a little harder to see those crazy impulses in us introverts. But he's dead on about a lot of the way we operate. Those impulses are still there, we just keep them in check a little better.

Sometimes. ;)

Based on those descriptions, I mainly just don't see how I could trust SPs... they seem to want bad things to happen, and to want to make people feel nervous and edgy all the time. I tend to think they don't care how they make people feel... at all. But then, perhaps only NFs really do.

Of course, I'm likely reading it wrong. I don't (think) I know any SPs, and Se is probably my weakest function.

My attitude towards SPs in general, though, is this... if they don't bother me, I won't bother them. They'd just better not try things like pulling a knife on me, popping a balloon behind my head after having sneaked up behind me, or touching me unexpectedly, if they don't want me to scream, cry, run, and/or possibly even attack them in confusion (worst part is, if the last one happens, they could probably kill me in seconds). Unfortunately, Se-ish things tend to provoke a fight-or-flight reaction in me. Sheer alarm, terror, confusion, and sometimes disgust. But I'm not normal, I am probably oversensitive and highly reactive. So there are probably not many people like me you have to worry about.

The reason I probably wouldn't get along with them, is because I'm very quick to feel threatened by something sudden and unexpected, and usually react very defensively and negatively towards such things.

[Colors]

My attitude towards SPs in general, though, is this... if they don't bother me, I won't bother them.

:laugh: As long as you NFs don't try and hug us, cry at us over the cuteness of puppies, or start a revolution based on your psychic visions... we'll refrain from the cutting-a-bitch and the jumping out of moving vehicles. :cheese:

Kiersey kind of sucks anyway. His descriptions are too extreme and come off as carbon cutouts for the various "temperments" written just to fulfill his obsession with naming categories.

Anyway, welcome Kleinheiko. (I often test INTP- it's a common thing around here.)

[Athenian200]

:laugh: As long as you NFs don't try and hug us, cry at us over the cuteness of puppies, or start a revolution based on your psychic visions... we'll refrain from the cutting-a-bitch and the jumping out of moving vehicles. :cheese:

Well, that's a relief. I don't like being cut. Although I don't mind if SPs jump out of moving vehicles, as long as they don't try to take me with them. ;)

Kiersey kind of sucks anyway. His descriptions are too extreme and come off as carbon cutouts for the various "temperments" written just to fulfill his obsession with naming categories.

You think so too? I'm glad I'm not the only one who suspected that. You're the second person I've spoken to who thinks Keirsey isn't a good source. Perhaps we should have a club or something.

[Jeffster]

I'm not scared. SPs are so impulsive and have such short attention spans I'm sure you couldn't concentrate on me or keep me in mind long enough to actually find me. ;)

Yeah, you're probly ri...wait, what? :headphne:


Based on those descriptions, I mainly just don't see how I could trust SPs... they seem to want bad things to happen, and to want to make people feel nervous and edgy all the time. I tend to think they don't care how they make people feel... at all. But then, perhaps only NFs really do.

I'm an SFP. I'm all about how I make people feel. I don't want bad things to happen. I want exciting GOOD things to happen. I don't want to make people feel nervous and edgy, I want them to feel happy and thrilled, I want to cheer them up, make them laugh, in some cases I want them to make out with me. You know, good excitement. I mean, sure, every once in a while, it's kinda fun to piss someone off, but that's not my main purpose that's for sure. :)


My attitude towards SPs in general, though, is this... if they don't bother me, I won't bother them. They'd just better not try things like pulling a knife on me, popping a balloon behind my head after having sneaked up behind me, or touching me unexpectedly, if they don't want me to scream, cry, run, and/or possibly even attack them in confusion (worst part is, if the last one happens, they could probably kill me in seconds). Unfortunately, Se-ish things tend to provoke a fight-or-flight reaction in me. Sheer alarm, terror, confusion, and sometimes disgust. But I'm not normal, I am probably oversensitive and highly reactive. So there are probably not many people like me you have to worry about.

Well, rest assured. I have never pulled a knife on anyone, I've never popped a balloon behind anyone's head, and over ten years of watching sexual harassment videos in the workplace has conditioned me to not touch people unexpectedly.

The reason I probably wouldn't get along with them, is because I'm very quick to feel threatened by something sudden and unexpected, and usually react very defensively and negatively towards such things.

Sample conversation:

Jeffster: Hey! I got you a movie ticket! Let's go see Babes With Guns 3!
Athenian200: No! This is way too sudden and unexpected!
Jeffster: You sure?
Athenian200: Yes, I'm quite sure. That movie sounds stupid anyway.
Jeffster: Eh..okay. Suit yourself. See ya!


See? No harm done. ;)

[Athenian200]

Sample conversation:

Jeffster: Hey! I got you a movie ticket! Let's go see Babes With Guns 3!
Athenian200: No! This is way too sudden and unexpected!
Jeffster: You sure?
Athenian200: Yes, I'm quite sure. That movie sounds stupid anyway.
Jeffster: Eh..okay. Suit yourself. See ya!


See? No harm done. ;)

Ah... I wouldn't have a problem with someone asking me to see a movie unless I was busy or didn't feel up to it, in which case I would just say so. I'm talking about people doing more immediate things, like making sudden, rapid, broad movements while close by, yelling out things that are really embarrassing, just... you know. DOING physical sudden and unexpected things to me or around me, that's what makes me nervous. Not asking or offering something nice unexpectedly. That's completely different. I mean, I can deal well with being asked to go somewhere unexpectedly, as long as I'm ready to go when I'm asked, and the place doesn't seem dangerous. Otherwise, I'd need time to get ready, get dressed, etc.

SPs sit still long enough to watch movies? I'll have to keep that idea in mind if I ever meet one... maybe it will distract them from all the other scary stuff they might want to do for a while. ;)

[6sticks]

RAAARRRGH!!!

... welcome.

[wolfy]

Me too! INTP to ISTP. I like SP's their posts are usually nice and short.

[Jeffster]

Ah... I wouldn't have a problem with someone asking me to see a movie unless I was busy or didn't feel up to it, in which case I would just say so. I'm talking about people doing more immediate things, like making sudden, rapid, broad movements while close by, yelling out things that are really embarrassing, just... you know. DOING physical sudden and unexpected things to me or around me, that's what makes me nervous. Not asking or offering something nice unexpectedly. That's completely different. I mean, I can deal well with being asked to go somewhere unexpectedly, as long as I'm ready to go when I'm asked, and the place doesn't seem dangerous. Otherwise, I'd need time to get ready, get dressed, etc.

SPs sit still long enough to watch movies? I'll have to keep that idea in mind if I ever meet one... maybe it will distract them from all the other scary stuff they might want to do for a while. ;)

:laugh: It really does seem like you don't know any SPs. Which seems hard to believe because we're EVERYWHERE. But no, we're not all the boogeyman, I promise. I'm all about "asking or offering something nice unexpectedly." That's my bag, baby! :yes:

And we don't tend to sit still during movies, but we still watch them. At home, I'll shift from the couch to the floor to a chair to a different part of the couch, etc. and at the theater, I do tend to have to shift positions quite a bit. It's better if get one of seats with a railing in front of it so I can put my feet up too (and then bring them down again, and then back up again, etc.) but yeah if the movie has something actually happening, we can be totally into it. If the movie is people sitting around a table talking, then it's not too likely.

Unless they are hot chicks.

And they're nude.

;)

[Jeffster]

Me too! INTP to ISTP. I like SP's their posts are usually nice and short.

:nice:

[rhinosaur]

Hey, another sensor convert. Welcome. There are at least three or four five ISTPs here who used to think they were INTP, including me.

[Little Linguist]

Hiya, welcome! :hug:

[Jeffster]

Ah... I wouldn't have a problem with someone asking me to see a movie unless I was busy or didn't feel up to it, in which case I would just say so. I'm talking about people doing more immediate things, like making sudden, rapid, broad movements while close by, yelling out things that are really embarrassing, just... you know. DOING physical sudden and unexpected things to me or around me, that's what makes me nervous.

Re-reading this made me think of the sleepwalking scenes from "Step Brothers." Those must have been so fun to make. I totally want to pretend to sleepwalk and destroy a kitchen now. :happy:

[SaltyWench]

I thought I was an ENTP, turned out I was an SP.

We should start a club, lol.

[Jeffster]

I thought I was an ENTP, turned out I was an SP.

We should start a club, lol.

I thought I was no type. When I was first introduced to this stuff, I refused to believe that I could be categorized by some eggheads or shrinks somewhere. I had to mature a little bit before I was even remotely open to the possibility that I fit anyone's "type" descriptions. ;)