Mistyped MBTIc Members

[Jen]

Think you know a person from their online persona better than they know themselves? Think they've answered the majority of the questions inaccurately when they took their online MBTI test?

Be nice! This is meant to be fun! (I also promise not to get my panties in a wad if someone happens to say they think I am mistyped!)

I'll start.

Wolf: Scored INTJ but I sometimes think he's more like an ISTJ.

Xander: Scored INTP but seems more like ENTP but he's English so who can really say! ;P

[Night]

Jen - typed as an INFJ; I find her to be closer to an ENFJ/INTJ hybrid
Beat - typed as an ISTJ; seems instead an ISTP
Athenian200 - typed as an INFJ; I find her behavior is similar in rhythm to an ISTJ

[Jen]

Well I have to be ENFJ sometimes but it wears me out. If I weren't the kids would never get to do anything. The INTJ comes from living with one. You either develop thicker skin and live together in harmony or run away crying. ;)

[Littlelostnf]

Ocassionally I really think that Pink P is an ENFP. Perhaps it's due to having an ENFP twin but she def seems more ENFP than ENFJ alot of the time.

Pink believe me we NEED as many ENFJ's as we can get...we are low man on the totem pole around here...but I don't know...sometimes I just get that P vibe from you.

[Jen]

Ocassionally I really think that Pink P is an ENFP. Perhaps it's due to having an ENFP twin but she def seems more ENFP than ENFJ alot of the time.

Pink believe me we NEED as many ENFJ's as we can get...we are low man on the totem pole around here...but I don't know...sometimes I just get that P vibe from you.I can see why you'd think that, however Pink likely can't be very J right now but I do believe she is accurately typed as an ENFJ and a very scrumptious one at that! ;)

[Nocapszy]

I think Pinky's an ENFP too. Twin or not, her jokes are far more Ne collaborative than Fe cooperative/collaborative.

I judge based on jokes because that's nearly all she posts.
It's possible we have a tainted data set.

[Zergling]

Wolf: Scored INTJ but I sometimes think he's more like an ISTJ.

This does seems true a lot of the time, but there have been enough other INTJ's who are ornery in similar ways to get me questioning this.

Ender usually seems like a more ISTP/INTP oriented person, at least in ventrillo.

Fineline seemed like an STJ when he was posting here (With his views on life and such), though maybe that was more the military rubbing off on him.

Jen sometimes seems more an ENFJish type, though I haven't spent time around her so it's quite possible she's not actually that much of an interacter.

[Night]

Victor - INTJ; INTP
Nocapszy - ENTP; INTP
Grayscale - ISTP; INTP
Jeffster - ISFP; EsFP

Edahn - INxP; INFJ
Nocturne - INTP; ESFJ

Heart - INFP; INFx
Mort - INTP; ENTP

[Jen]

Pink believe me we NEED as many ENFJ's as we can get...we are low man on the totem pole around here.If it helps I am willing to switch teams. :D

[Jeffster]

Hmmm..some people around here have told me I'm an ESFP. And one person in the vent chat even said that I "act ENTP." Do they know me better than I know myself? :huh:

[MetalWounds]

I can see why you'd think that, however Pink likely can't be very J right now but I do believe she is accurately typed as an ENFJ and a very scrumptious one at that! ;)

I have to agree with Jen %100 on this. There's really no way she's anything other than an ENFJ. Most definitely Fe dom.

[Littlelostnf]

If it helps I am willing to switch teams. :D

Walk....towards the light ;)

(I get what you're saying about where she is right now...but I also feel lots and lots of Ne...)

[bluebell]

Jen: I get more of an E vibe from you online, rather than I.

Athenian: ISTJish vibe.

[Night]

A few more:

Murkrow - ENTJ; ESTJ
Economica - INTJ; ESTJ
AvereX - INFJ; INFP

[bluebell]

Night, sometimes you seem more INFJish to me, with a well-developed T.

[Night]

Night, sometimes you seem more INFJish to me, with a well-developed T.

Spot on.

To be honest, my T and F scores are consistently similar, as are my J and P digits.

[bluebell]

Spot on.

To be honest, my T and F scores are consistently similar, as are my J and P digits.

I see you as more of a J, although a soft J. But I can see how you'd test as borderline P - that does make sense.

F seems more natural to you, but well-controlled by T.

[Mondo]

I would definitely say AvereX is an INFP- I get a strong Fi vibe from him.

I'm not sure about some of the others in terms of Introversion/Extraversion. (Jen: INFJ or ENFJ)
I get an ENFJ vibe from Jen but we must remember that people will seem more extraverted on internet forums- we are typing instead of talking and most of us are usually alone when on MBTI Central.

In terms of cognitive functions, it is possible for people to use both their main introverted and extraverted functions about equally.

[prplchknz]

Hmmm..some people around here have told me I'm an ESFP. And one person in the vent chat even said that I "act ENTP." Do they know me better than I know myself? :huh:
yes we are the thoughts inside your head. Playing with your neurons.

[Ivy]

I concur with wolf as an ISTJ and beat as an ISTP.

Everybody seems to think Haight is a mistyped INTJ but I don't see it. I still think he's INTP. So that's more of a mistyped mistype or something.

Night plays wildcat too well to be an INTJ, I'ma go INFJ on that one. :D

[Gabe]

Think you know a person from their online persona better than they know themselves? Think they've answered the majority of the questions inaccurately when they took their online MBTI test?

Be nice! This is meant to be fun! (I also promise not to get my panties in a wad if someone happens to say they think I am mistyped!)

I'll start.

Wolf: Scored INTJ but I sometimes think he's more like an ISTJ.

Xander: Scored INTP but seems more like ENTP but he's English so who can really say! ;P

Xander: INTJ
Athenian: INFP
Bluewing: INTJ
Nottoopopular: INFP
Kiddo: ISFP? INFP?

Notice how all the one's I can think of are self-identified Ti-Fe and I'm guessing Fi-Te. As a friend of a friend says (and I totally agree from experience with this forum) internet discussions are mostly a Te-Fi activity

[Night]

Night plays wildcat too well to be an INTJ, I'ma go INFJ on that one. :D

Your comparison is very kind, Ivy.

Truth be told, Wildcat is significantly smarter than I am. He and Hilbertspace are among the strongest minds I've ever encountered.

[Edahn]

I think you're all sensors.

[Blackwater]

Economica - INTJ; ESTJ

Now, Night, why do you think that? :huh:

Do you have actual observations, or are you just driving home the old joke? :)

[Beat]

I think maybe I come across as more P on the forums, in the way that I post, but I think in real life more of the J shines through. :shrug:

I can relate a lot in the portrait description of an ISTP though. I think I'm just pretty balanced with my J/P. One of the main indicators that you guys are probably semi-right with labeling me as a P would be that I don't feel as rigid with rules and regulations as a hardcore STJ might be. While I do feel a need to maintain order and ensure people are doing the right thing, I often question authority that's bestowed on me. I often question its relevance and a lot of times the motives of those trying to enforce it on me. Also, ISTPs are said to not like to be held down and they like to get out. They don't want to sit behind a desk. I've never wanted a desk job and don't think I could bare one for an extended period of time.

It's almost like my P/J are battling for dominance. What shall win?

Maybe I'm just a person and not a Pokemon after all. :ninja:

[Haphazard]

After talking to Athenian, I don't think she can be ISTJ -- far too much Ti, no Te at all. I'd guess ISFJ before ISTJ, and really, that doesn't seem evident to me, either.

And I really do think that BlueWing's an INTP.

[Beat]

I think you're all sensors.

Everyone just got OWNED!!!

Wait, shut up, man.

[Haphazard]

I think you're all sensors.

Can I be an ESFP?

[Night]

I think you're all sensors.

INFJ



Do you have actual observations, or are you just driving home the old joke? :)

I have legitimate framework. ;)

[alicia91]

While I do feel a need to maintain order and ensure people are doing the right thing, I often question authority that's bestowed on me. I often question its relevance and a lot of times the motives of those trying to enforce it on me.

You could very well be an ISTP. They are Chart-the-Course too (as is ISTJ) and actually are more systematic than many realize.

Generally speaking I think many people on this forum as S, only a few are really abstract and truly intuitive - at least that's how they come across on this forum. But then there's that bias that N is related to intelligence and being 'different' that many buy into.

[Beat]

Only thing is I've always scored ISTJ on any test I've taken. I think I got INTJ once.

[Haight]

Now, Night, why do you think that? :huh:

Do you have actual observations, or are you just driving home the old joke? :)What are you. . . married to her or something!?

Jennifer = INfP
Edahn = eNfP
Economica = IsTJ
Notta = INTp
Bluewing = INTJ
Wolf = ISTJ
Athenian = ISTJ
Mac = INFP
raincrow = INTj
Geoff = INfp
Ivy = INfj

[Mondo]

Generally speaking I think many people on this forum as S, only a few are really abstract and truly intuitive - at least that's how they come across on this forum. But then there's that bias that N is related to intelligence and being 'different' that many buy into.

There is a strong N bias on many of the personality tests.
I remember when I got people in my fraternity to take the MBTI that there was a high portion of N's.
Both me and my INFJ friend agreed that many were actually S's but many were quickly convinced S fit better after reading the profiles.
At the end, we agreed on a 2:1 S/N ratio.
All of them are intelligent and enjoy ideas but are more practical than imaginative.. concrete than abstract.. etc.

If that's true here- they are probably S's in denial.

[ThatGirl]

I can't seem to find another ENTP?

[Haight]

I can't seem to find another ENTP?

ENTP.Org

[Mondo]

Substitute, Nemo, and Samuel de Mazarin are all ENTPs.
There are a few others on the board, I think.

[Haphazard]

Why is Blue an INTJ?

I do admit his recent 'argument' seems a bit like an unhealthy INTJ but before that I could see no evidence pointing to him being an INTJ. He still seems to me like a very unhappy P.

[Mondo]

I think Blue is an INTP.
I can relate to his thought process- dominant Ti.
If a Ti thinks that his or her analysis is valid, he or she will argue his or her point to the very end.

[Haight]

If a Ti thinks that his or her analysis is valid, he or she will argue his or her point to the very end.So Ps argue points to "the very end"?

[Mondo]

If they feel extremely confident in what they are arguing- then yes.
Unless they become convinced by others' arguments, which wasn't the case with Blue Wing.

[Samuel De Mazarin]

If they feel extremely confident in what they are arguing- then yes.
Unless they become convinced by others' arguments, which wasn't the case with Blue Wing.

i get into arguments all the time... I usually either end up changing my opinion or, more likely, tearing my ample hair out.

[Haight]

If they feel extremely confident in what they are arguing- then yes.
Unless they become convinced by others' arguments, which wasn't the case with Blue Wing.o.O you're adding exceptions now.

So. . . an INTP will argue his or her point to "the very end" if they feel extremely confident and if they don't become convinced by "others'" arguments? I have discovered the opposite of that to be true. Regardless:

What the, will an INTJ do in that same situation?

[Lateralus]

I have to agree with Jen %100 on this. There's really no way she's anything other than an ENFJ. Most definitely Fe dom.
I always thought she was ESFJ.

Night also displays dominant Fe, not Te. I've always thought he was an INFJ. He's so 'proper'.

I'm probably the only member whose type cannot be disputed.

[prplchknz]

So Ps argue points to "the very end"?

When I argue, I argue til either the other person changes my mind or I've changed theirs. Sometimes I'll argue not to change the persons mind, or have them change my mind, but to try and get them to help me understand where they're coming from. I don't care about differences of opinion as long as I understand why.

[Lateralus]

When I argue, I argue til either the other person changes my mind or I've changed theirs. Sometimes I'll argue not to change the persons mind, or have them change my mind, but to try and get them to help me understand where they're coming from. I don't care about differences of opinion as long as I understand why.
I don't think 'arguing to the very end' is relevant when it comes to type.

[prplchknz]

I don't think 'arguing to the very end' is relevant when it comes to type.

that was my point indirectly.

[digesthisickness]

entropie: any type that's not ENTP.

[Night]

BlueWing - defends rather than excavates.

INTJ

[Mondo]

I'd say Blue Wing's case is that of an insecure Ti- he needs to be convinced that his Ti is valid and working.
That can make someone judgmental and 'argue to the very end'.

[Lateralus]

I'd say Blue Wing's case is that of an insecure Ti- he needs to be convinced that his Ti is valid and working.
That can make someone judgmental and 'argue to the very end'.
I see him as using Fi/Te, rather than Fe/Ti.

[Haight]

I'd say Blue Wing's case is that of an insecure Ti- he needs to be convinced that his Ti is valid and working.
That can make someone judgmental and 'argue to the very end'.Yeah, you already made that argument and we moved forward from there.

Can you go back and answer my last post so we can move your theory forward a bit?

[Thursday]

I am starting to cotton to this INFP notion, again

[Beat]

Also, let me add about myself, ISTPs are called "The Mechanics." I really never cared much at all for mechanics and the technicalities of how things work, just so long as they work I'm fine. ;)

[Haphazard]

Ps get more J as they become stressed, and Js more P...

That's my reasoning.

Also... it's possible for him to be INTP with underdeveloped Ne.

[Mondo]

What then, will an INTJ do in that same situation?

An INTJ would argue in a similar way.
You are right- what I said- doesn't prove he's INTP.
I'm just saying that BlueWing may really be the type he thinks he is.

[Haight]

Ps get more J as they become stressed, and Js more P...

That's my reasoning.That doesn't make sense to me either. Can you give me an example so I may discover your point?

[ThatGirl]

ENTP.Org

Are you trying to get rid of me?

[Haight]

Are you trying to get rid of me?Of course not. ENTPs are welcome here.

You were looking for ENTPs, so I provided a logical place for you to search.

[Haphazard]

That doesn't make sense to me either. Can you give me an example so I discover your point?

As Ps get more stressed, they start to show negative J characteristics, like being stubborn to a ridiculous extent, but the reason to believe so has no evidence, as a J would insist on, all they have supporting it is internal judgment. The rigidity isn't helping them... they get more into self-preservation, but they can't balance it adequately as a normal J would. That sort of thing.

[Haight]

An INTJ would argue in a similar way.
You are right- what I said- doesn't prove he's INTP.Boooo!

I wanted to argue this with you "to the very end" and then force you to use your evaluation criteria to discover what type I am based solely on my actions in this thread.

You have failed me!

[Night]

Night also displays dominant Fe, not Te. I've always thought he was an INFJ. He's so 'proper'.


Thanks, Lateralus.

Etiquette is a great shield.

[Haight]

As Ps get more stressed, they start to show negative J characteristics, like being stubborn to a ridiculous extent, but the reason to believe so has no evidence, as a J would insist on, all they have supporting it is internal judgment. The rigidity isn't helping them... they get more into self-preservation, but they can't balance it adequately as a normal J would. That sort of thing.Oi! You failed me too.

I don't believe your statement to be true either.

I would expand, but I have to go to a baby shower. :doh:

Anyway, maybe Ivy can get Noah or Martoon to validate or reject your theory (since I know they're INTPs).

[Haphazard]

Oi! You failed me too.

I don't believe your statement to be true either.

I would expand, but I have to go to a baby shower. :doh:

Anyway, maybe Ivy can get Noah or Martoon to validate or reject your theory (since I know they're INTPs).

Also... there's that Js have an objective when arguing.

Showing weakness in a sort of argument where there's something to gain for winning doesn't seem like a good idea for a J, so therefore they seem more stubborn, even if they do know their opponent has a point. I don't see any of this in BlueWing... what does he have to prove?

There's a difference between arguing to win and being closed off to any opposing arguments.

[Mondo]

Boooo!

I wanted to argue this with you "to the very end" and then force you to use your evaluation criteria to discover what type I am based solely on my actions in this thread.

You have failed me!

Haha! I guess I did.
But I wasn't 'strongly convinced' that BlueWing is an INTP.
It depends on how one defines 'strong'.

[Blackwater]

well Haight its just that I know her both off- and online. so im curious as to why the old buggers on mbtic type her so differently online. Jennifer was all over that bone as well.

i just want some arguements to juggle about. like any good entp would :p

[Athenian200]

Athenian200 - typed as an INFJ; I find her behavior is similar in rhythm to an ISTJ


Athenian: ISTJish vibe.


Athenian = ISTJ


I really wish you hadn't had to drag me into this. For one thing, I don't even post here that much anymore, and for another thing, I've already made it clear that I don't want anyone questioning my type. Finally, I've removed my type from my profile due to not being willing to deal with it anymore. Why do you have to do this to me? Sigh.

I found out what "ISTJ" really means to you, former/current INTPc members, and I don't need these insults. I have tried to explain before why I don't think I'm an ISTJ or any other type, and yet you insist on typing me with this despite that it doesn't fit how I think I use the functions at all, nor does it fit my behavior if you do more than a cursory glance.

[Mondo]

To be honest, I think the only reason why people would think you are an ISTJ is your C-3PO avatar.

[Haphazard]

To be honest, I think the only reason why people would think you are an ISTJ is your C-3PO avatar.

There is no way C-3PO is Te/Fi.

[Mondo]

There is no way C-3PO is Te/Fi.

Haha! I would agree with that. C-3PO screams Fe. But he's also IMO a definite SJ.
Keirsey types him as ISTJ actually- blah. So I thought that was the general consensus of C-3PO's type.

[Lethe]

I think it's easy to type Athenian as an ISTJ based off the writings on MBTIc - it's more structured and objective than one would expect from the average INFJ. However, once someone can follow Athe's thought patterns, principles and motivations, it's clear that she can't possibly pass as any sort of TJ and that she perceives mainly with her iNtuition over her Sensing function.

[Eileen]

I see him as using Fi/Te, rather than Fe/Ti.

:yes: absolutely

[proteanmix]

I think it's easy to type Athenian as an ISTJ based off the writings on MBTIc - it's more structured and objective than the average INFJ. However, once someone can follow Athe's thought patterns, principles and motivations, it's clear that she can't possibly pass as any sort of TJ and that she perceives mainly with her iNtuition over her Sensing function.

Agreed. She breaks out in hives anytime she has to do anything Se related (The Chair Incident). I think people are seeing her Ni resisting Se and it looks like Si.

And Economica is an iNTJ. She just pissed off the wrong people.

[Night]

I don't know how many times I've had to reassure you, Athenian, that my evaluation of you as ISTJ is not an insult.

I find your cursory belief that the ISTJ is an undesirable MBTI type to be indicative of an individual who has researched around a central suspicion v. honest observation towards an unknown end.

[TenebrousReflection]

I really wish you hadn't had to drag me into this. For one thing, I don't even post here that much anymore, and for another thing, I've already made it clear that I don't want anyone questioning my type. Finally, I've removed my type from my profile due to not being willing to deal with it anymore. Why do you have to do this to me? Sigh.

I found out what "ISTJ" really means to you, former/current INTPc members, and I don't need these insults. I have tried to explain before why I don't think I'm an ISTJ or any other type, and yet you insist on typing me with this despite that it doesn't fit how I think I use the functions at all, nor does it fit my behavior if you do more than a cursory glance.

This is one I agree with, from the the posts of yours I've read, very strong Fe is the impression I get. I don't sense anything strong one way or there other on N/S (you seem to show a balance of practicality and natural inclination for forward thinking, so I would suspect you are borderline or well balanced on that axis as far as development goes, but probably have favoritism toward N), and the I/E I can only judge from your self descriptions which seem to have a fairly strong introverted tendency, so I think InFJ is as far as I'd go, but you know yourself better than anyone, so what you believe is all that should matter to you. I just wanted to comment as I have a really hard time seeing how someone could read your posts and conclude any type that does not have strong Fe.

[Blackwater]

And Economica is an iNTJ. She just pissed off the wrong people.

The wrong argument-less people :D

[Nocapszy]

I strongly doubt so many members are mistyped.

[proteanmix]

I strongly doubt so many members are mistyped.

Do you know how many people take that stupid humanmetrics test and think it's accurate? I think there are a lot of mistypes on the forum (mostly S/N, and T/F). If the person in question has ingrained the MBTI stereotypes they will be resistant to figuring out their true type.

[Athenian200]

I don't know how many times I've had to reassure you, Athenian, that my evaluation of you as ISTJ is not an insult.

I find your cursory belief that the ISTJ is an undesirable MBTI type to be indicative of an individual who has researched around a central suspicion v. honest observation towards an unknown end.

Sorry, Night. I wasn't really talking to you so much as the other two, you just happened to do the same thing they did. I know you probably didn't mean it as an insult, but I know the other two probably do. :hug:

So, I didn't mean to include you in that one. I understand your opinion for what it is, okay?

This is one I agree with, from the the posts of yours I've read, very strong Fe is the impression I get. I don't sense anything strong one way or there other on N/S (you seem to show a balance of practicality and natural inclination for forward thinking, so I would suspect you are borderline or well balanced on that axis as far as development goes, but probably have favoritism toward N), and the I/E I can only judge from your self descriptions which seem to have a fairly strong introverted tendency, so I think InFJ is as far as I'd go, but you know yourself better than anyone, so what you believe is all that should matter to you. I just wanted to comment as I have a really hard time seeing how someone could read your posts and conclude any type that does not have strong Fe.

Okay, that's interesting.... thanks. I don't really identify with the ISFJ description as much as the INFJ one (nor do I think I resemble the ISFJ's other people have described dealing with), so that's why go with INFJ. Your description is not too far off from how I see myself.

[Wolf]

It's always ghastly over the internet, since you only see what they like to display:

Athenian200 - NOT ISXJ, but nebulous nonetheless. Writing style appears to confuse many on her, and while she writes more ISTJ, it's not completely reflected in the content. Her writing on here is mostly free of much of a certain abstract quality that reinforces this. One notable thing is that she's very personally guarded and carefully controls her online persona for some reason that I haven't discerned yet (I've only known confirmed INFPs and INFJs that do this). INXJ, but I'd need to chat with her for a while to narrow it further.
Economica - XSTJ
file cabinet - INFP
Haight - ISTP
Ivy - ISFJ
NPG - ISTJ
Rhu - ENTP

[Thursday]

ivy does look like an ISFJ, sound like one too

[JAVO]

Economica = IsTJ
Disagree-just well balanced on N vs S

Bluewing = INTJ
Agree...

BlueWing - defends rather than excavates.

INTJ

I've seen him defend his opinion even when confronted with hard evidence that it in no way corresponds with reality.

[Haphazard]

I've seen him defend his opinion even when confronted with hard evidence that it in no way corresponds with reality.

I see this as a sign of being an introvert with an underdeveloped auxiliary function than specifically an INTJ.

INTPs see arguments as a way to find more information and to get closer to the truth, while for an INTJ arguments are more like sparring. One does not admit weakness when sparring unless somebody is actually going to get seriously hurt and the time for analysis is afterwards, not during.

Really, from what I've seen of BlueWing's argument style, he doesn't fit either.

[disregard]

What an awful thread.

[Mondo]

I see this as a sign of being an introvert with an underdeveloped auxiliary function than specifically an INTJ.

INTPs see arguments as a way to find more information, for an INTJ arguments are more like sparring. One does not admit weakness when sparring unless somebody is actually going to get seriously hurt and the time for analysis is afterwards, not during.

Really, from what I've seen of BlueWing's argument style, he doesn't fit either.

Could he be a - GASP- an NF or S?
I personally think he's an NT but I'm just wondering what others think.
I would agree that his argument style doesn't seem 100% NT- but the way people portray NT's- who really has a perfect NT argument style?

[Nocapszy]

Do you know how many people take that stupid humanmetrics test and think it's accurate? I think there are a lot of mistypes on the forum (mostly S/N, and T/F). If the person in question has ingrained the MBTI stereotypes they will be resistant to figuring out their true type.

The humanmetrics test has a better gauge of the T/F and N/S than it does for J/P and I/E.
Those two are the more misunderstood categories.

I'm still suspicious.

[Nocapszy]

Anyone other than Night want to take a whack at mine?

Or is he the only one brave enough?

[Haphazard]

Could he be a - GASP- an NF or S?
I personally think he's an NT but I'm just wondering what others think.
I would agree that his argument style doesn't seem 100% NT- but the way people portray NT's- who really has a perfect NT argument style?

Perhaps he's S or F.

What I meant, though, is that he seems like an introverted function gone too far. I haven't found any more reason to see him as an INTJ than to see him as any other introverted type.

[heart]

What an awful thread.

:yes: I just don't think it is a good idea to challenge people's type on the public forum unless they ask for such. But that's just me.


BTW Athenian is totally INFJ. I feel I know her pretty well and I can say this without reservation.

[Jen]

Dana-INFP
heart-INFP
Athenian- INFJ

Nocaps maybe it's just me but Night seems to be the only person on here who's been paying attention so I'd go with his assessment. Plus he's super smert!

[TheLastMohican]

Anyone other than Night want to take a whack at mine?

Or is he the only one brave enough?

You must be an ISFJ whose ideal type is ENTJ. Are you by any chance attracted mainly to ESFP's?

Denying any of the above is an unmistakable symptom of ISFJ-ness.

[Jen]

I'd like to add that I can now see where people would believe me to be an ESFJ. My life with three children is very busy and often requires me to live in the here and now and sometimes it's so overwhelming that I shut a lot of things out. I tell myself (as does Cafe) that this will improve as they get older but right now I feel like such a spaz. New type perhaps? ;)

[digesthisickness]

I'd like to add that I can now see where people would believe me to be an ESFJ. My life with three children is very busy and often requires me to live in the here and now and sometimes it's so overwhelming that I shut a lot of things out. I tell myself (as does Cafe) that this will improve as they get older but right now I feel like such a spaz. New type perhaps? ;)

i can see that happening.

[The_Liquid_Laser]

I tend to take most members at face value about their type even if they don't represent the stereotype of it online. However, if you would ask me the member I had the greatest suspicion about mistyping then it would be Wolf, who really seems like an ISTJ to me. Then again that could easily just be the online persona that he projects.

Other comments I'd like to add:

1) I'd consider both Wildcat and Athenian200 to be "untypable". I don't think they fit very well into the MBTI framework. They can be whatever type they tell me they are.

2) Ivy is typable, but I have no idea what that type is.

3) BlueWing is an INTP. In fact he's almost a caricature of an INTP since he has overdeveloped Ti and underdeveloped Ne. Here is the thing about INTP's. If they spend a lot of effort on developing an idea then they will not budge. Many INTP's will seem like they are listening and humor your arguments, but internally they are still rejecting your ideas regardless of how good they are.

INTJ's are a bit different. If you catch an INTJ in an argument, then they will switch their positions and often not realize that they switched. For an INTJ friend of mine whenever we'd point out what his argument should be, he'd reply "That's what I'm saying!" We'd then counter, "No that is the exact opposite of what you are saying." INTP's on the other hand never lose sight of their argument. That is why they are sometimes called "The Architect". INTP's build these rigid elaborate mental frameworks, and then they don't want to budge if they've put a lot of energy into one. BlueWing always sticks to his original argument and never budges regardless of how good a point you make. That is why he is INTP.

[TheLastMohican]

INTJ's are a bit different. If you catch an INTJ in an argument, then they will switch their positions and often not realize that they switched. For an INTJ friend of mine whenever we'd point out what his argument should be, he'd reply "That's what I'm saying!" We'd then counter, "No that is the exact opposite of what you are saying." INTP's on the other hand never lose sight of their argument. That is why they are sometimes called "The Architect". INTP's build these rigid elaborate mental frameworks, and then they don't want to budge if they've put a lot of energy into one. BlueWing always sticks to his original argument and never budges regardless of how good a point you make. That is why he is INTP.

All that just to avoid being "convinced" like normal people?

[Night]

1) I'd consider Wildcat to be "untypeable". .

I would agree with this, from the stance that singular type is probably inappropriate for him.

I think he's an exceptional blend of NTP + NFJ, and demonstrates substantial characteristics of both subtypes.

[heart]

I'd like to add that I can now see where people would believe me to be an ESFJ. My life with three children is very busy and often requires me to live in the here and now and sometimes it's so overwhelming that I shut a lot of things out. I tell myself (as does Cafe) that this will improve as they get older but right now I feel like such a spaz. New type perhaps? ;)

I read about INFP getting caught in Fi-Si loop (yes, I've actually been there!) or INTJ with Ni-Fi loop. Maybe dealing with the needs of extroverted children requires Fe-Se loop? :huh:

[Jen]

It requires Lexapro. ;)

All kidding aside I'm sure you're correct. All three of our children are extroverted and each day after school they bring home at least two other children which drives me nutso! Kids are always ringing our doorbell. As much as I hate the sound of the phone ringing, the sound of the doorbell is worse. :cry:

[MacGuffin]

BTW Athenian is totally INFJ. I feel I know her pretty well and I can say this without reservation.

Sorry to pick on Ath some more, but I've just never seen an iNtuitive be so literal and struggle with subtext like that.

BlueWing is an INTP. In fact he's almost a caricature of an INTP since he has overdeveloped Ti and underdeveloped Ne. Here is the thing about INTP's. If they spend a lot of effort on developing an idea then they will not budge. Many INTP's will seem like they are listening and humor your arguments, but internally they are still rejecting your ideas regardless of how good they are.

INTJ's are a bit different. If you catch an INTJ in an argument, then they will switch their positions and often not realize that they switched. For an INTJ friend of mine whenever we'd point out what his argument should be, he'd reply "That's what I'm saying!" We'd then counter, "No that is the exact opposite of what you are saying." INTP's on the other hand never lose sight of their argument. That is why they are sometimes called "The Architect". INTP's build these rigid elaborate mental frameworks, and then they don't want to budge if they've put a lot of energy into one. BlueWing always sticks to his original argument and never budges regardless of how good a point you make. That is why he is INTP.

Except in my dealings with INTPs (and there's been a lot over the years at INTPc) you rarely get this.

This is why MBTI theory breaks down. INTPs are supposed to have rigid internal frameworks cause of Ti. Instead they have fuzzy ones, and pathologically refuse to limit/reject alternatives. You have to hit upon a deep principle to get any good pushback.

INTJs are supposed to be all imaginative and mystical leading with Ni. Go over to INTJf and tell me that's the character of the forum, cause it is the opposite.

[Haphazard]

Except in my dealings with INTPs (and there's been a lot over the years at INTPc) you rarely get this.

This is why MBTI theory breaks down. INTPs are supposed to have rigid internal frameworks cause of Ti. Instead they have fuzzy ones, and pathologically refuse to limit/reject alternatives. You have to hit upon a deep principle to get any good pushback.

INTJs are supposed to be all imaginative and mystical leading with Ni. Go over to INTJf and tell me that's the character of the forum, cause it is the opposite.

The fact that Ni is mystical is very misleading. And the maturity level of INTJf might have a little something to do with the character of the forum -- same with INTPc.

And there's a difference between an internal framework and an external one...

[MacGuffin]

The fact that Ni is mystical is very misleading. And the maturity level of INTJf might have a little something to do with the character of the forum -- same with INTPc.

And there's a difference between an internal framework and an external one...
The women INTJs seemingly have better Ni than the males there.

[Wolf]

We communicate using Te, hence what you see there.

Based on your claim of your internal state, you may be one of us and not one of them.

[digesthisickness]

just personal opinions, folks:

betaswimmer: ENTJ
blackmail: not ENTP. some kind of NF
elfinchild (i think that's his/her name): not NT. some kind of NF
nocapszy: ENTJ

[MacGuffin]

We communicate using Te, hence what you see there.

Based on your claim of your internal state, you may be one of us and not one of them.
INTPs communicate with Ti, but there is plenty of Ne in evidence at INTPc.

There wouldn't be any play at all otherwise.

I have to hunt for Ni at INTJf.

[The_Liquid_Laser]

Except in my dealings with INTPs (and there's been a lot over the years at INTPc) you rarely get this.

This is why MBTI theory breaks down. INTPs are supposed to have rigid internal frameworks cause of Ti. Instead they have fuzzy ones, and pathologically refuse to limit/reject alternatives. You have to hit upon a deep principle to get any good pushback.


Yes this is my point. INTP's are the most rigid when you talk about something they really care about, i.e. an idea they've invested a lot of time developing. But with most topics they don't really care enough about to put up much resistance and prefer to examine the idea from every angle before reaching a conclusion. With BlueWing most of his posts are responses to these long threads that he's started. So most of the things he talks about are ideas that he's invested quite a bit into. And he doesn't really budge at all.

INTJ's on the other hand appear more rigid than they really are. They can seem rigid even on things they don't really care about. In reality if you point out where they're wrong they usually change, but they might not realize that they have changed. They might even keep arguing with you not realizing that they are now arguing your points. INTJ's can budge quite a bit, but give the impression that they don't.

[Littlelostnf]

I3) BlueWing is an INTP. In fact he's almost a caricature of an INTP since he has overdeveloped Ti and underdeveloped Ne. Here is the thing about INTP's. If they spend a lot of effort on developing an idea then they will not budge. Many INTP's will seem like they are listening and humor your arguments, but internally they are still rejecting your ideas regardless of how good they are.

INTJ's are a bit different. If you catch an INTJ in an argument, then they will switch their positions and often not realize that they switched. For an INTJ friend of mine whenever we'd point out what his argument should be, he'd reply "That's what I'm saying!" We'd then counter, "No that is the exact opposite of what you are saying." INTP's on the other hand never lose sight of their argument. That is why they are sometimes called "The Architect". INTP's build these rigid elaborate mental frameworks, and then they don't want to budge if they've put a lot of energy into one. BlueWing always sticks to his original argument and never budges regardless of how good a point you make. That is why he is INTP.

Not much to say besides yup...Bluewing is indeed an INTP

[Nocapszy]

just personal opinions, folks:
nocapszy: ENTJ

Interesting. You declined my original offer. I do wonder what changed your mind.

[Wolf]

INTPs communicate with Ti, but there is plenty of Ne in evidence at INTPc.
You are incorrect, sir. Ti should not be the primary displayed trait, as it's not outward-facing. The real INTPs are like Martoon and Ferrus. The main thing I see at INTPc is Se, while the main thing you see at INTJf is Te.

[Littlelostnf]

You are incorrect, sir. Ti should not be the primary displayed trait, as it's not outward-facing. The real INTPs are like Martoon and Ferrus. The main thing I see at INTPc is Se, while the main thing you see at INTJf is Te.

Challenge!:duel:

[Wolf]

I should have included OMW, who is another prime example.

[Mondo]

You are incorrect, sir. Ti should not be the primary displayed trait, as it's not outward-facing. The real INTPs are like Martoon and Ferrus. The main thing I see at INTPc is Se, while the main thing you see at INTJf is Te.

Do you mean Ne or is this implying that INTPc is filled with a bunch of INTP-wannabe Artisans? :devil:
I don't see why Artisans would want to be INTP's though.
Artisans tend to do better with the opposite sex- at least in terms of Artisan males.

[Didums]

This is interesting, whether to take in one's own assestment of their Type over the people who know them over the interwebs.. or vice-versa. To say to take each one's assestment 50/50 would be a middle ground fallacy so I'm not sure what to think.

[digesthisickness]

Interesting. You declined my original offer. I do wonder what changed your mind.

you've lost me.

edit: oh, i remember. just changed my mind, that's all. no big mystery or reason. actually, i didn't even remember that i'd said that before. i was just going with the flow of the conversation, you J!

[NoahFence]

Well I'm hardly a Guru on this stuff but my impression of S'hhorrss has always been INTJ. I have a fundamental lack of need for structure when contemplating anything. Fuzzy is too light a word I think...mushy, or nebulous are better. I excel at freeform, abstract thought... thinking of strange, unexpected answers is a delight to me even if they are utterly useless to the question at hand.

Bluewing never seems to just...well...mentally jack off, for lack of a better term. Whereas that's about all I ever do. I know it may seem to some like that's what he does but...well...look, can you picture him coming up with some shit like the Cult of Five Four Chick tract? Everything he does is so, purposeful? Deliberate? I don't know how to say it. Structured, but that word lacks all flavor...it's the basic need, almost desperation for structure I sense in his writing and all my dealings with him that is so weirdly alien to me.

But on the gripping hand, it's the lists. He worships lists, people. J.

[Uytuun]

BW lacks N IMO...he doesn't strike me as a very creative person.

[Nocapszy]

you've lost me.

edit: oh, i remember. just changed my mind, that's all. no big mystery or reason. actually, i didn't even remember that i'd said that before. i was just going with the flow of the conversation, you J!

Clever, but I was using sarcasm, you S.

:D

[digesthisickness]

what crazy ass dictionary are you using?

[Usehername]

I'm in a curious mood and have officially opened the floor to invite other people's perceptions of me.

:D

[Nocapszy]

what crazy ass dictionary are you using?

Says on the cover "Thesaurus"

'Zat some kind of dinosaur-brand Dictionary? That's what I always thought.

[prplchknz]

I don't question other people's types I have never met, but if I feel I relate to someone in a certain way, I begin to question my own type. So instead of me going is blah really woodywoohoodoo and not yaddyyahblahwahoof? I'm going am I a yaddyyahblahawhoof and not a woodywoohoodoo?

[Jeffster]

I don't question other people's types I have never met, but if I feel I relate to someone in a certain way, I begin to question my own type. So instead of me going is blah really woodywoohoodoo and not yaddyyahblahwahoof? I'm going am I a yaddyyahblahawhoof and woodywoohoodoo?

I admit that I haven't talked to you that much, but even from our limited conversations, I'm pretty confident that you're a yaddyyahblahawhoof.

[prplchknz]

I admit that I haven't talked to you that much, but even from our limited conversations, I'm pretty confident that you're a yaddyyahblahawhoof.

:laugh:

[Mort Belfry]

Mort - INTP; ENTP


Sweet! When I saw my name I worried about seeing an F or a J.

But really, if you met me in real life I seem far more introverted. I'm much more fluent in wiriting than I am in speaking.

[Haphazard]

blackmail: not ENTP. some kind of NF

I remember he had originally typed himself as ENFP on INTJf, and then ended up changing his type.

Where is he, anyway? I haven't seen him around.

[htb]

I'm much more fluent in writing than I am in speaking.Were it to come to that, that would clinch it, being a kind of split personality I've noticed among INTPs.

[CaptainChick]

I remember he had originally typed himself as ENFP on INTJf, and then ended up changing his type.

Where is he, anyway? I haven't seen him around.
Yes, he is missed, and I am quite sure that he is an ENTP.

[Haphazard]

Yes, he is missed, and I am quite sure that he is an ENTP.

;_;

Well, being an ENTP, my best guess is that he's in prison right about now.

[Mort Belfry]

I really wish you hadn't had to drag me into this. For one thing, I don't even post here that much anymore, and for another thing, I've already made it clear that I don't want anyone questioning my type. Finally, I've removed my type from my profile due to not being willing to deal with it anymore. Why do you have to do this to me? Sigh.

I found out what "ISTJ" really means to you, former/current INTPc members, and I don't need these insults. I have tried to explain before why I don't think I'm an ISTJ or any other type, and yet you insist on typing me with this despite that it doesn't fit how I think I use the functions at all, nor does it fit my behavior if you do more than a cursory glance.

What an ISTJ thing to say.

[htb]

raincrow = INTjISTP, more likely.

[dissonance]

elfinchilde = INFJ
edahn = INFJ
night = INFJ

:)

oh and BW is definitely INTP. i thought INTJ for a sec too, but i talk to him on AIM now for hours and hours.

[Jeffster]

elfinchilde = INFJ
edahn = INFJ
night = INFJ

:)

oh and BW is definitely INTP. i thought INTJ for a sec too, but i talk to him on AIM now for hours and hours.

What about me, huh? Huh? Whaddayagot? :2ar15:

[bluebell]

elfinchilde = INFJ
edahn = INFJ
night = INFJ


It's possible Edahn is NF, but he seems P to me, not J.

[Lethe]

I can see that for [...] Night.

Night could either be an INTJ or INFJ. Like Wedekit (INFJ), he plays both sides well enough, despite the majority of his actions appearing to stem from Ti and Fe. The only roadblock is that there's probably a whole lot more than meets the eye to Night and therefore, he can't be accurately typed by someone who doesn't know how he process things. Is his Fe learned? Why is he motivated to use it? What influenced his view on Fe? He once said he started out as an INFJ, but could it be a mistype? And what was his reason for thinking he was an NF? How does he define an INFJ from an INTJ? Te from Fe? Etc.

It's possible Edahn is NF, but he seems P to me, not J.

Same here. To me, he's a perceiver before anything else.

[proteanmix]

Night could either be an INTJ or INFJ. Like Wedekit (INFJ), he plays both sides well enough, despite the majority of his actions appearing to stem from Ti and Fe. The only roadblock is that there's probably a whole lot more than meets the eye to Night and therefore, he can't be accurately typed by someone who doesn't know how he process things. Is his Fe learned? Why is he motivated to use it? What influenced his view on Fe? He once said he started out as an INFJ, but could it be a mistype? And what was his reason for thinking he was an NF? How does he define an INFJ from an INTJ? Te from Fe? Etc.

Night's Fe seems to be a bit formal to me, making me think it's learned rather than natural.

[dissonance]

It's possible Edahn is NF, but he seems P to me, not J.

hm. i couldn't see FP for him. now that i think more, he's probably INTP. INFJs aren't as funny. we're actually pretty un-funny.

Night's Fe seems to be a bit formal to me, making me think it's learned rather than natural.

but that's not how type is defined. night seems to derive feeling from the outer world. look at what happens when he's involved in disagreements -- he makes sure there's resolution right away, he never leaves it up in the air. it's almost compulsive. an Fi user wouldn't care as much about fixing a disagreement, because their opinion is consciously validated by their internal state. when night sees an external feeling state he doesn't like, he changes it. totally Fe.

he does seem slightly uncomfortable with Fe, but that's because the Ni/Ti axis is safer.

[Mondo]

To follow usehername's lead, anyone doubt my type?

If it's not INTP or ENTP, I would be curious about the reason.

[Haphazard]

I wonder if anybody doubts my type.

Have at me!

[MacGuffin]

I should have included OMW, who is another prime example.

So when OMW posts that she and I think alike on INTPc (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?p=906085#post906085), what does that make my observations?

Yes this is my point. INTP's are the most rigid when you talk about something they really care about, i.e. an idea they've invested a lot of time developing. But with most topics they don't really care enough about to put up much resistance and prefer to examine the idea from every angle before reaching a conclusion. With BlueWing most of his posts are responses to these long threads that he's started. So most of the things he talks about are ideas that he's invested quite a bit into. And he doesn't really budge at all.

How many INTPs have to say they don't think he's one of us?

If that's how you view INTPs, then it's like you don't really get us at all.

[Grayscale]

Grayscale - ISTP; INTP

ive typed as INTP and INTJ. besides my primary CPs, I have well developed Te and my Ne isn't shabby, although i dont trust it.

im fairly certain of my type, this forum is the occasional socio-intellectual outlet for me outside of the stereotypical SP climbing/traveling/shooting/going fast/blowing things up... that purpose may subconsciously alter my online persona

i would be interested to hear from people who have talked with me outside of the forum... anyone?



edit: @ other people's types, the only one that seemed obvious to me was nightning (T rather than F)

[Nocapszy]

No dudes, Edahn is definitely not an FP.

I'll jump on board with INFJ, but never FP.


I still say Grayscale is ISTP. I haven't talked to you out of the forum... just saying. I think it works.

[Thursday]

I wonder if anybody doubts my type.

Have at me!

not I

[Nocapszy]

Night's Fe seems to be a bit formal to me, making me think it's learned rather than natural.

If it weren't formal it wouldn't be Fe.

Formality varies among (sub)cultures.

[Mondo]

Edahn definitely seems like an INTP.
I wouldn't think F for him.
However, if he must absolutely be an NF- I would say an NFP type.
There's nothing J from the posts I've read.

I just get this strong Ne vibe from him but I don't think he's an Extravert.

[Haphazard]

not I


Not you who doubts, or not introverted?

[Thursday]

Not you who doubts, or not introverted?

oops
you seem INTJ to me

[MacGuffin]

I withdraw my earlier post about Athenian200.

[CzeCze]

You big tease! ^^

Seriously...with that outfit on? You totally are.

[The_Liquid_Laser]

How many INTPs have to say they don't think he's one of us?

If that's how you view INTPs, then it's like you don't really get us at all.

I've known far too many INTP's in my lifetime. The main difference between them and BlueWing is that BlueWing has an underdeveloped Ne. If that many "INTP's" doubt his type, then I really have to question if they are INTP's. :rolli: (Although it's also possible these INTP's lack purpose. Most INTP's I've known have at least one main "idea" that they thoroughly develop and are very passionate about.)

[MacGuffin]

I've known far too many INTP's in my lifetime. The main difference between them and BlueWing is that BlueWing has an underdeveloped Ne. If that many "INTP's" doubt his type, then I really have to question if they are INTP's. :rolli: (Although it's also possible these INTP's lack purpose. Most INTP's I've known have at least one main "idea" that they thoroughly develop and are very passionate about.)

You just doubted nearly every INTP madmin at INTPc over the last two years.

[CzeCze]

Edahn = eNfP

Wait, wait -- I just read this now --

:yim_rolling_on_the_

No.

[bluebell]

Wait, wait -- I just read this now --

:yim_rolling_on_the_

No.


What about eNtP?

[The_Liquid_Laser]

You just doubted nearly every INTP madmin at INTPc over the last two years.

Heh, well I doubt they are all in agreement with you. But even if they are I know that not all of them are certain about their own type. Haight for example isn't sure if he's INTP or INTJ. How sure are you of your own type?

[MacGuffin]

Heh, well I doubt they are all in agreement with you. But even if they are I know that not all of them are certain about their own type. Haight for example isn't sure if he's INTP or INTJ. How sure are you of your own type?

85%? Nearly every INTP questions their type. I think it should be added to the profile at this point.

Even if I'm not INTP, I've been dealing with them online for 4 years now. All different kinds: INTPs, non-INTPs that think they are INTPs, immature INTPs, stupid INTPs (they exist), etc. SeaWolf has been analyzed and categorized a long time ago. Nothing since then has seriously challenged this. I can't even think of another immature INTP that reminds me of him. Most are angsty wannabe-robots, full of doubt.

Haight is INTP, we just like to give him shit.

[Gabe]

I think it's easy to type Athenian as an ISTJ based off the writings on MBTIc - it's more structured and objective than one would expect from the average INFJ. However, once someone can follow Athe's thought patterns, principles and motivations, it's clear that she can't possibly pass as any sort of TJ and that she perceives mainly with her iNtuition over her Sensing function.

More structured and objective than an INFJ? That's what I call a dichotomy-based cheap shot. What is your assumption? That an F won't sound structured or "objective".


Freud was an I_FP, Freud was an I_FP, Freud was an I_FP.

OK, I think I drilled that one enough. I see no reason why an INFJ's writing would be less objective or structured than any thinking type's.

And Athenian is an INFP. As for the 'structured', 'objective' stuff, you would expect that from an INFP, right? After all, they are JUDGING (in the real sense) types.

[Gabe]

Anyone other than Night want to take a whack at mine?

Or is he the only one brave enough?

Hmm, definately NOT ENTP.

You still think I'm an INTJ or something, right? :rolleyes:

[Mort Belfry]

Anyone other than Night want to take a whack at mine?

Or is he the only one brave enough?

The more I hear from you the more I think you're an ENTJ. You seem so quick in trying to get everyone to hate you and then hating them for hating you.

[The_Liquid_Laser]

85%? Nearly every INTP questions their type. I think it should be added to the profile at this point.

Even if I'm not INTP, I've been dealing with them online for 4 years now. All different kinds: INTPs, non-INTPs that think they are INTPs, immature INTPs, stupid INTPs (they exist), etc. SeaWolf has been analyzed and categorized a long time ago. Nothing since then has seriously challenged this. I can't even think of another immature INTP that reminds me of him. Most are angsty wannabe-robots, full of doubt.

Haight is INTP, we just like to give him shit.

I've known a lot of INTP's, but my experience with them has been different. Most of the INTP's I've known have been university professors or students working on their PhD. Most of the time they are extremely flexible and dispassionate. On the other hand when it comes to original work that they've developed themselves they are extremely rigid. Also older INTP's have their mind made up about more things than younger INTP's do. The older an INTP gets the more subjects he's going to reach firm conclusions on, and then that's it. He simply won't budge on those few topics. My dad is a 71 year old INTP, and if I talk about some subject that he's studied a lot he simply can't see outside of the mental framework he's developed. All of these INTP's remind me of BlueWing, but he is a much more extreme version of them, like I said before a caricature with highly developed Ti and underdeveloped Ne.

Now if you want to talk about online the poster that reminds me most of BlueWing is nocture/lee. What type do you think he is? Nocturne is more mature than BlueWing overall, but like BlueWing he makes elaborate philosophical arguments and he never budges from his original premise either. In that way they are a lot alike. Wouldn't you agree they are the same type?

[Nocapszy]

Hmm, definately NOT ENTP.

You still think I'm an INTJ or something, right? :rolleyes:

No, I respect INTJs.

What do you think I am, if not an ENTP? Or is the intention here to be cheeky/coy?

[Haphazard]

From what I can tell about BlueWing, he seems mostly Ti-Si, and I really can't see much Ne there at all. Because of the way MBTI works, I'd still have to call him an INTP, but he's only one on a technicality.

[phoenix13]

The more I hear from you the more I think you're an ENTJ. You seem so quick in trying to get everyone to hate you and then hating them for hating you.

Hmm, definately NOT ENTP.

You still think I'm an INTJ or something, right? :rolleyes:

No, I respect INTJs.

What do you think I am, if not an ENTP? Or is the intention here to be cheeky/coy?

.

[Didums]

I'm INTP.. right? RIGHT??!!!! Actually I don't think I've made enough posts for you folks to judge me :alttongue:

[Thursday]

I'm INTP.. right? RIGHT??!!!! Actually I don't think I've made enough posts for you folks to judge me :alttongue:

112 ?
they'll send you to the slammer for being an INTP so fast that pedophiles will get jealous

[Wolf]

So when OMW posts that she and I think alike on INTPc (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?p=906085#post906085), what does that make my observations?
Still just as suspect. However, you're a fairly certain admin, and at the very least an NTP.

[JustDave]

ive typed as INTP and INTJ. besides my primary CPs, I have well developed Te and my Ne isn't shabby, although i dont trust it.

im fairly certain of my type, this forum is the occasional socio-intellectual outlet for me outside of the stereotypical SP climbing/traveling/shooting/going fast/blowing things up... that purpose may subconsciously alter my online persona

i would be interested to hear from people who have talked with me outside of the forum... anyone?



edit: @ other people's types, the only one that seemed obvious to me was nightning (T rather than F)

Bingo. Someone finally said it.

[Haight]

Sorry, Night. I wasn't really talking to you so much as the other two, you just happened to do the same thing they did. I know you probably didn't mean it as an insult, but I know the other two probably do. :hug:Wrong again. Which continues to lead me to believe that you're not an N.

Regardless, I really don't care what type anyone is or is not. It's just a theory. And my observations are just an interpretation of that theory.

I'm not joking nor insulting anyone in this thread - on purpose, anyhow - with regard to typing.

Take it or leave it. . .

[whatever]

Grayscale-

You are always confusing to chat with because you have a lot of S and N characteristics in a way. I would say that you were an ISTP with high Ne.

[entropie]

entropie: any type that's not ENTP.

What would you like, have grown bored of that ENTP thing anyways xD.

I am starting to like the ESTP feeling xDD

http://madeinbrazilmag.com/television/bbb8/bbb8-carlosjose-2.jpg

[dissonance]

Hmm, definately NOT ENTP.

You still think I'm an INTJ or something, right? :rolleyes:

The more I hear from you the more I think you're an ENTJ. You seem so quick in trying to get everyone to hate you and then hating them for hating you.

let's hear a function based argument for this stuff.

to me, nocap is one of the most blatant ENTPs on the site.

[Rajah]

Edahn's an ENFP. End of story.

[Wyst]

Edahn's an ENFP. End of story.

He's one of them??
;)

[CaptainChick]

Edahn's an ENFP. End of story.
Hell no he's not!!!

:shocking:

[Haphazard]

I wonder if anybody still thinks me an INTP.

I remember I was getting mobbed by INTPs when I first got here. They were all like, "One of us! One of us! One of uuuuuuss!" Like I should join the collective or something.

[Haight]

Seriously, how many INTPs "mobbed" you?

[entropie]

No, you join no collective, you stay away from my iNTp herd xDD *bark bark*

[Haphazard]

Seriously, how many INTPs "mobbed" you?

More than three, no more than seven.

It's all a blur at this point.

[Thursday]

I wonder if anybody still thinks me an INTP.

I remember I was getting mobbed by INTPs when I first got here. They were all like, "One of us! One of us! One of uuuuuuss!" Like I should join the collective or something.

how are you when you are angry and stressed
that is - your mannerisms ; what goes through your head

[Haight]

More than three, no more than seven.

It's all a blur at this point.I'm sure it is.

[Jen]

I agree that Edahn is likely an ENFP. Here's (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=29157) an example of why. You may have to dig around to find the posts that prove this but on a more positive note he did do well up against so many INTP's. Most of them are passive but the confident ones can be brutal.

[DeliriousDisposition]

to me, nocap is one of the most blatant ENTPs on the site.

Yup, he most certaintly is.

On that note, I've mistyped myself. Anyone wanna take a guess as to what I might be? :D

[CaptainChick]

I agree that Edahn is likely an ENFP. Here's (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=29157) an example of why. You may have to dig around to find the posts that prove this but on a more positive note he did do well up against so many INTP's. Most of them are passive but the confident ones can be brutal.
*shudders*

He is NOT an ENFP!!!!!

[Jen]

Yup, he most certainly is.

On that note, I've mistyped myself. Anyone wanna take a guess as to what I might be? :DENF? You're extroverted, intuitive, feeling but the last one I'm not sure.

[heart]

Sweet! When I saw my name I worried about seeing an F or a J.

But really, if you met me in real life I seem far more introverted. I'm much more fluent in wiriting than I am in speaking.

Were it to come to that, that would clinch it, being a kind of split personality I've noticed among INTPs.

I think it is an INP thing. I am much, much more fluent in writing than speaking. I am a radically different person in person. Getting on the web was the best thing to ever happen to my Ne! :D

[Thursday]

Yup, he most certaintly is.

On that note, I've mistyped myself. Anyone wanna take a guess as to what I might be? :D

you don't even exist
you're like that girl inside of cheif from Halo's head
so infp, i think

[Jen]

*shudders*

He is NOT an ENFP!!!!!Honey I know you love him, and the truth hurts, but he is what he is. It'll be okay :hug:

edit: INFP. Is that better? *crosses fingers*

PS your above reaction was so similar to Edahn's posting style! I have goosebumps! :holy:

[DeliriousDisposition]

ENF? You're extroverted, intuitive, feeling but the last one I'm not sure.

:wubbie: Soooo close!

you don't even exist
you're like that girl inside of cheif from Halo's head
so infp, i think

Highly unlikley but nice try. I find that you resemble an INFP more than I do. :D

Edit:

*shudders*

He is NOT an ENFP!!!!!

Breathe. He. Just. Might. Be. :ninja:

[ThatGirl]

I have not been here very long and I would say that typing people would require you to fully view life through that persons perspective while also vewing them from the worlds perspective. I have tried this and been quite sucessful in catagorizing the majority of people that I interact with. However one thing that I have found to be true is that probability and predictability is best defined through someones opinion of themself. If I believe than I am and will act accordingly. You will get a much better insight into someone if you understand what they want to aquire. So maybe someone is self proclaimed let's say NT because their perception of NTs is of intelligence and they want to be seen as smart. Whether or not they actually posess this trait they confirm NT status through their desire to be viewed as the definition.
That said I think it would be very difficult to actually type someone as they are rather than as I believe they are because everyones interpretations of each type differ. Being a P I am too open minded to create anybodys catagory for them.

But secretly my inner J has all of you figured out.

[Thursday]

Highly unlikley but nice try. I find that you resemble an INFP more than I do. :D

whoa, buddy
simmer down now

really ?

[CaptainChick]

Yup, he most certaintly is.

On that note, I've mistyped myself. Anyone wanna take a guess as to what I might be? :D
Hmm, definitely an Ni or Ne dom, er, I think.

Whatever your type, you're nuts and I love you!!!

:hug:

Honey I know you love him, and the truth hurts, but he is what he is. It'll be okay :hug:

edit: INFP. Is that better? *crosses fingers*
Sure, the INFPs can have him if they want.

He really doesn't seem like much of an Fi person to me, but that's just like my opinion man.

[Jen]

I have not been here very long and I would say that typing people would require you to fully view life through that persons perspective while also vewing them from the worlds perspective. I have tried this and been quite sucessful in catagorizing the majority of people that I interact with. However one thing that I have found to be true is that probability and predictability is best defined through someones opinion of themself. If I believe than I am and will act accordingly. You will get a much better insight into someone if you understand what they want to aquire. So maybe someone is self proclaimed let's say NT because their perception of NTs is of intelligence and they want to be seen as smart. Whether or not they actually posess this trait they confirm NT status through their desire to be viewed as the definition.
That said I think it would be very difficult to actually type someone as they are rather than as I believe they are because everyones interpretations of each type differ. Being a P I am too open minded to create anybodys catagory for them.

But secretly my inner J has all of you figured out.Somewhat true, however it isn't possible for an NF to get away with pretending to be and NT for long. We. just. can't. help. ourselves.

[CaptainChick]

Breathe. He. Just. Might. Be. :ninja:
I love you, but no.

Male ENFPs are incredibly different than female ones, so eh, whatever, I guess he could be.

But I don't think he is an extrovert, and every molecule in my body is telling me that he is *not* an ENFP.

[heart]

Edahn cannot be an ENFP or INFP in my opinion. I see no evidence of Fi. He has very pronounced Fe to my view. I think he is an NTP who is working hard to developing his Fe.

I also don't think Night is INFJ. I think he is INTJ with developing feeling. Night just "feels" more Fi than Fe. Things like his avatar choices. Everytime he gets a new avatar I am thinking "wow, great avatar!" because they speak directly to my Fi.

[Jen]

Male ENFPs are incredibly different than female ones, so eh, whatever, I guess he could be.

But I don't think he is an extrovert, and every molecule in my body is telling me that he is *not* an ENFP.That's probably true. I can play an extrovert well but my husband will tell you that I'm not and he knows.

[Haphazard]

how are you when you are angry and stressed
that is - your mannerisms ; what goes through your head

I don't know. I still manage to churn out good work but I'm a helluva lot more irritable, usually.

Then again, I'm usually pretty irritable in the first place. People tend to think I'm sick -- and the problem is, they're usually right. I get most upset when I get sick.

[ThatGirl]

Believe it or not I have actually never encountered a NF who prefers to be an NT. Quite the opposite. All my NF friends hate to get into really deep conversations or when I speak too abstractly. They are more free loving hippies than anything, or at least the ones that I have met. Oh and very very opinionated almost never openminded. Accepting yes, caring certainly, but never bending. Is that an NF trait?

[Thursday]

I don't know. I still manage to churn out good work but I'm a helluva lot more irritable, usually.

Then again, I'm usually pretty irritable in the first place. People tend to think I'm sick -- and the problem is, they're usually right. I get most upset when I get sick.

See what i need is more details.
Things like eating impulsively, becoming emotional....or any specifics that you can come up with

do you go certain places, yada etc

[heart]

They are more free loving hippies than anything

Can you define exactly what you mean when you say this? Because it really sort of makes my skin crawl.

Thanks.

[prplchknz]

Believe it or not I have actually never encountered a NF who prefers to be an NT. Quite the opposite. All my NF friends hate to get into really deep conversations or when I speak too abstractly. They are more free loving hippies than anything, or at least the ones that I have met. Oh and very very opinionated almost never openminded. Accepting yes, caring certainly, but never bending. Is that an NF trait?
No I am nothing like your NF friends I love deeep converasations and I can be opinionated but am always willing to look at new evidence if I think it's logical or pertinent and change my view if need be.

[CaptainChick]

All my NF friends hate to get into really deep conversations or when I speak too abstractly. They are more free loving hippies than anything, or at least the ones that I have met. Oh and very very opinionated almost never openminded. Accepting yes, caring certainly, but never bending. Is that an NF trait?
:doh:

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jen]

Believe it or not I have actually never encountered a NF who prefers to be an NT. Quite the opposite. All my NF friends hate to get into really deep conversations or when I speak too abstractly. They are more free loving hippies than anything, or at least the ones that I have met. Oh and very very opinionated almost never openminded. Accepting yes, caring certainly, but never bending. Is that an NF trait?I'm very open minded and often mentally put myself in others shoes to try and understand them better. I'm bendy too. ;P

Edahn cannot be an ENFP or INFP in my opinion. I see no evidence of Fi. He has very pronounced Fe to my view. I think he is an NTP who is working hard to developing his Fe. maybe but i'm still leaning towards Rajah's analysis (however I do believe he is more introverted), after all she has witnessed his personality and posting style for some time now. He seems frustrated and confused which could be the reason he's difficult for some of you to type. It's also not uncommon to experience these confused feelings in your early to late 20's.

I also don't think Night is INFJ. I think he is INTJ with developing feeling.I can see that. He is logical but also young and that does make a difference.

[CaptainChick]

Edahn cannot be an ENFP or INFP in my opinion. I see no evidence of Fi. He has very pronounced Fe to my view. I think he is an NTP who is working hard to developing his Fe.

I also don't think Night is INFJ. I think he is INTJ with developing feeling. Night just "feels" more Fi than Fe. Things like his avatar choices. Everytime he gets a new avatar I am thinking "wow, great avatar!" because they speak directly to my Fi.
Preach it!!!

:yes:

[Haphazard]

See what i need is more details.
Things like eating impulsively, becoming emotional....or any specifics that you can come up with

do you go certain places, yada etc

I stay in my room. I tend to stop eating for the most part. I don't really lash out at people or anything but I really stay more locked up in my room. A couple times, I was feeling pretty dead and all I had to do was eat a decent meal to perk up. Turns out what would happen is I wouldn't eat anything substantial for a couple weeks. I try to keep track of my eating patterns now.

I really don't know what happens short term. I've been told that I have a tongue like a knife, but I really don't notice.

[Orangey]

Somewhat true, however it isn't possible for an NF to get away with pretending to be and NT for long. We. just. can't. help. ourselves.

What makes the difference in your opinion?

[Nocapszy]

let's hear a function based argument for this stuff.

to me, nocap is one of the most blatant ENTPs on the site.

Maybe I'm not evin.

I'm prolly a J. Digest even agrees.

I act like a J right? 'Cause I don't 'go with the flow' makes me J.




It also means they're Ss.

[Nocapszy]

Edahn cannot be an ENFP or INFP in my opinion. I see no evidence of Fi. He has very pronounced Fe to my view. I think he is an NTP...

Fucking thank you.

[Thursday]

Fucking thank you.

you seem like the eNTJ's that i know

[entropie]

Gosh, what you all care ?

It is not important, if you are what you think you are or if you are told how you are to puzzle together who you might be.

Fuck it all and watch Scrubs that series really makes me cry tears right now xD

[Jen]

i know i'm crying.

[entropie]

-.- drama queen xD

[heart]

I think Nocapszy is NTP. P doesn't always mean "laid back, passive" it means internal judgement and he's certainly an internal judging type if ever I saw one.

[Thursday]

I think Nocapszy is NTP. P doesn't always mean "laid back, passive" it means internal judgement and he's certainly an internal judging type if ever I saw one.

true
and if he is dominated by a judging function......

[DeliriousDisposition]

whoa, buddy
simmer down now

really ?

Yup. heart, if you're reading this, does he seem like an INFP to you?

you seem like the eNTJ's that i know

oi, he isn't >_> I, as well as numerous others, could probably tolerate him a bit better if he were an ENTJ.

Edit: heart to the rescue!

[entropie]

I have come to accept the policy that there are some people, who can follow my whims and some, who dont care shit about me.

So I try to stick to those mutual friends, who know me, who lived with me for some time and their reasoning I trust, for that far I like it. Guess that is partly what you are doing here, but it is terrible getting out of phase.

[Haphazard]

AvereX, have you given up on me?

[CaptainChick]

AvereX, have you given up on me?
You're an INTJ.

[heart]

Yup. heart, if you're reading this, does he seem like an INFP to you?

He seems very, very Ni to me personally. But that's just my opinion.

[Haphazard]

You're an INTJ.

I'm not asking you, I'm asking AvereX. I already know your opinion on the matter.

[entropie]

Do what you want to do :)

I am out

[Ivy]

I had to look it up to make sure I wasn't wrong about what it means, but I see Fi all over Edahn. He's practically made of the stuff.

[Uberfuhrer]

I had to look it up to make sure I wasn't wrong about what it means, but I see Fi all over Edahn. He's practically made of the stuff.

Hi-Fi Edahn, huh?

[CaptainChick]

I'm not asking you, I'm asking AvereX. I already know your opinion on the matter.

:azdaja:






Whatever, you're still an INTJ.

[ThatGirl]

Free loving hippies. Conspiricy theorists. The world is ready to crush their perceptions of right and beauty. The world holds them back. Liberal and confused ideals that hold no continuity. Debate with an NF and they will play on feelings to win the debate rather than the compelling arguments laid forth. If I question their perceptions then I find they are insecure and fight "dirty".
All my NF friends are NFJ the males are more stubborn than the women who will take a dive to restore unity because she is very uneasy during the presence of conflict even if it is only due to a difference of opinion. I believe she is a P among a highly J family and her J is conditioned more than anything.

[Uberfuhrer]

Whatever, you're still an INTJ.

Whatever uses too many emoticons to be anything but E.

[DeliriousDisposition]

He seems very, very Ni to me personally. But that's just my opinion.

I respect your opinion. Thank you. :D

[Jen]

Free loving hippies. Conspiricy theorists. The world is ready to crush their perceptions of right and beauty. The world holds them back. Liberal and confused ideals that hold no continuity. Debate with an NF and they will play on feelings to win the debate rather than the compelling arguments laid forth. If I question their perceptions then I find they are insecure and fight "dirty".
All my NF friends are NFJ the males are more stubborn than the women who will take a dive to restore unity because she is very uneasy during the presence of conflict even if it is only due to a difference of opinion. I believe she is a P among a highly J family and her J is conditioned more than anything.I fight dirty. When conversations get heated with my INTJ husband I resort to sex. Works every time! ;)

[CaptainChick]

Free loving hippies. Conspiricy theorists. The world is ready to crush their perceptions of right and beauty. The world holds them back. Liberal and confused ideals that hold no continuity. Debate with an NF and they will play on feelings to win the debate rather than the compelling arguments laid forth. If I question their perceptions then I find they are insecure and fight "dirty".
:rolli:

[Uberfuhrer]

She's definately a P type and she's definately using Fe to relate to people. I say she's typed herself correct.

Oh, I was just playing with CC's words, because that's how I roll.

[CaptainChick]

Oh, I was just playing with CC's words, because that's how I roll.
:hug:

[Ivy]

It is often hard to assign words to the values used to make introverted Feeling judgments since they are often associated with images, feeling tones, and gut reactions more than words. As a cognitive process, it often serves as a filter for information that matches what is valued, wanted, or worth believing in. There can be a continual weighing of the situational worth or importance of everything and a patient balancing of the core issues of peace and conflict in life’s situations. We engage in the process of introverted Feeling when a value is compromised and we think, “Sometimes, some things just have to be said.” On the other hand, most of the time this process works “in private” and is expressed through actions. It helps us know when people are being fake or insincere or if they are basically good. It is like having an internal sense of the “essence” of a person or a project and reading fine distinctions among feeling tones.

I've bolded the stuff that really reminds me of Edahn. He's fairly private so I don't think any of us knows him extremely well (true of many, if not most of us). But the extent to which I know him, I see evidence of Fi everywhere. I don't know if it's his dominant function because I also see a lot of Ne there. IMO he could be INFP or ENFP, though I lean towards introversion, or just INTP with well-developed Fi.

[heart]

Oh, I was just playing with CC's words, because that's how I roll.

Sorry Uber, I read it wrong... as you saying Whatever was F, it was my mistake. :blush:

[BlueWing]

Edahn is an ENTP.

Clearly very comfortable with ideas. Has a natural knack for them. Outgoing and externally observant, excellent perceptions of his external environment. Shifts between correspondences fluently. In the same vein of an Extroverted Perceiver, he is in tune with how he is perceived by others, therefore excells at presentation and is able to make an impact upon the audience.

1)Ne dominant.

Naturally at home with analysis. Is able to respond quickly and coherently to an argument and often dissect in depth. Has little interest in convincing others to embrace his ideas. Unlike an Extroverted Thinker, he tends to see discussion as means to the end of exploring an idea and attaining an internal sense of understanding. Pedigree of Introverted Thinking.

Very different from a Ti dom in the regard that he tends to have little interest in following through an idea thoroughly after it has lost its relevance to the external environment. He would much rather move on to something else, especially something that is currently a hot topic.

2) Auxiliary Ti

3)Tertiary Fe-Engages in proper manners or attempts to. The lower the function, the less natural it is for us. Unlike a natural (dom or auxiliary) he does not seem to be passionate about his etiquette. Rarely do we see him having a forceful emotional reaction to violation of conventional etiquette. The kind of a reaction that is prominent in FJs. Clearly is light-hearted with his displays of Feeling and is able to easily switch from one display to the next. (This promotes his Ne agenda of fluidity). Also unlike a Feeler, he does not seem natural about his emoting. They seem to be an outcome of deliberation. Almost like he is asking not how do I feel, but how I ought to feel. Or better yet, what I ought to display as a representation of how I feel. As a natural thinker he seems to be uncomfortable processing emotion and displaying it until he has thought about it.

Does not seem to be tied down to his values, unlike an F, furthermore it is far from clear what his values are, irrespectively of how much Fe he displays.

All of this is plain anathema to the Fi mindset which takes feelings very seriously, is tied down to values and is certainly not easily changeable. As well as averse to conventional and ostensible display of emotion (etiquette) that Edahn makes a show of.

[Uberfuhrer]

I'm surprised no one's gotten to me... I wonder if I'll get the INTPc treatment here?

[heart]

I've bolded the stuff that really reminds me of Edahn. He's fairly private so I don't think any of us knows him extremely well (true of many, if not most of us). But the extent to which I know him, I see evidence of Fi everywhere. I don't know if it's his dominant function because I also see a lot of Ne there. IMO he could be INFP or ENFP, though I lean towards introversion, or just INTP with well-developed Fi.

He seems to use Fe on the board when he relates. Heavy Fe.

[Ivy]

He seems to use Fe on the board when he relates. Heavy Fe.

Can you elaborate? I don't see it. I tend to read most of his posts as heavily tongue-in-cheek with several layers of irony and sarcasm in place.

[CaptainChick]

Does not seem to be tied down to his values, unlike an F, furthermore it is far from clear what his values are, irrespectively of how much Fe he displays.
:yes:

[heart]

Can you elaborate? I don't see it. I tend to read most of his posts as heavily tongue-in-cheek with several layers of irony and sarcasm in place.

BlueWing has said it all so much better than I could. I agree with him.

That's another thing though. Edhan writes his ideas tighter and more well defined than say I could most days and it seems effortless. That makes me see more Ti in him than anything else.

[BlueWing]

I've bolded the stuff that really reminds me of Edahn. He's fairly private so I don't think any of us knows him extremely well (true of many, if not most of us). But the extent to which I know him, I see evidence of Fi everywhere. I don't know if it's his dominant function because I also see a lot of Ne there. IMO he could be INFP or ENFP, though I lean towards introversion, or just INTP with well-developed Fi.

Edahn may have earnest convictions which are internally rather than externally grounded, yet they are an outcome of dispassionate analysis and not value judgment.

[prplchknz]

Free loving hippies. Conspiricy theorists. The world is ready to crush their perceptions of right and beauty. The world holds them back. Liberal and confused ideals that hold no continuity. Debate with an NF and they will play on feelings to win the debate rather than the compelling arguments laid forth. If I question their perceptions then I find they are insecure and fight "dirty".
All my NF friends are NFJ the males are more stubborn than the women who will take a dive to restore unity because she is very uneasy during the presence of conflict even if it is only due to a difference of opinion. I believe she is a P among a highly J family and her J is conditioned more than anything.

*cough* *choke* *spudder* what!????!!!! :shock:

[heart]

Debate with an NF and they will play on feelings to win the debate rather than the compelling arguments laid forth. If I question their perceptions then I find they are insecure and fight "dirty".


And naturally with all the respect and good regard you seem to have for them it is shocking that they do this! :shock: :D

And yes, lol I get the irony here, but it was too funny to pass up.

[ThatGirl]

Am I wrong?

[CaptainChick]

yes

[heart]

Am I wrong?

Oh you're