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InaF3157
07-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Brazenly stolen from INTPc because it is a good one.

Post your results (no cheating!) and whether they surprised you at all.

Would you have been a Nazi? (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=17675020579094199926)

N.B.: You do not have to register to get results. Just ignore the info request and click away; it will still work.

prplchknz
07-25-2008, 02:34 PM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 5% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

MetalWounds
07-25-2008, 02:34 PM
Der Kommandant

Achtung! You are 15% brainwashworthy, 45% antitolerant, and 57% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.


...Damn Naxis

InaF3157
07-25-2008, 02:54 PM
The Swine

Achtung! You are 8% brainwashworthy, 41% antitolerant, and 24% blindly patriotic
Sie sind ein Schwein! You would've lived a quiet and consenting civilian life in Germany, while the Nazis stomped all over people you didn't quite care about.

You would never have directly joined the Nazis, basically because (1) you're not so nationalistic, (2) you're not that susceptible to crazy propaganda, and (3) you probably don't have the bloodlust. But you would've appreciated the Party, because you liked how they cleaned out the [insert race you dislike here].

The fact is, you demonstrate too much attachment to and pride of your own kind, be they white & male & straight or whatever. You absolutely would not have stood up to the Germans
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
At first I thought: FOR SHAME!
But then I read the last (bolded) line and realized that the creator was a lot less than punctilious with distinctions (German = Nazi), and I could dismiss the results with a haughty sniff.
So :coffee:

InaF3157
07-25-2008, 02:56 PM
Der Kommandant

Achtung! You are 15% brainwashworthy, 45% antitolerant, and 57% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.


...Damn Naxis

You forgot the last line: "Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well."
:D

MetalWounds
07-25-2008, 02:58 PM
You forgot the last line: "Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well."
:D

How 'bout that.

Jen
07-25-2008, 02:59 PM
the OP title made me :laugh:.

Little Linguist
07-25-2008, 03:01 PM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 38% blindly patriotic



Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

That makes sense, as that is exactly what I did in real life. I did not like my country at all, so I moved to another one (namely, Germany) which I totally love and where I am totally content.:party2:

InaF3157
07-25-2008, 03:01 PM
the OP title made me :laugh:.
Me too, pre-edit.:blush:
Partly because I then thought "Would you have been a Maxi" . . . a Maxi pad.

Uberfuhrer
07-25-2008, 03:07 PM
The Swine
8% brainwashworthy -- 64% antitolerant -- 19% blindly patriotic

Jen
07-25-2008, 03:13 PM
Me too, pre-edit.:blush:
Partly because I then thought "Would you have been a Maxi" . . . a Maxi pad.I'd rather be a taxi. ;)

InaF3157
07-25-2008, 03:35 PM
I'd rather be a taxi. ;)
:huh: You want people to ride you all night long?
Dirty birdie. :D

Peguy
07-25-2008, 04:26 PM
http://www.timeoutpub.com/taormina-irish-pub/uploaded/images/Icon-waffen-ss-pic.jpg

The SS Officer

Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 41% antitolerant, and 33% blindly patriotic

Opportunistic, self-centered and attracted to powerful leadership, you are the SS Officer. Had you lived in Germany in the 30's and 40's, you would've been a stain on the pages of history, a beast. You would've terrorized all who opposed you: not for the Fatherland itself, but for your beloved Nazi party. Sadly, you exceeded reasonable levels on 2 out of 3 indicators on my test. Auf vedersehen!

Must be the result of all my childhood readings into the Third Reich, World War II, including the Waffen-SS.

Guess the only thing to do now is play a good rendition of Die Fahne Hoch over the loud-speakers.

Or maybe the U-Boat Lied (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYWTt1HuSMc) would be a preferable alternative? One of my favorite songs from WWII.

Night
07-25-2008, 04:31 PM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 14% brainwashworthy, 23% antitolerant, and 19% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.


Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

Falcarius
07-25-2008, 04:57 PM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 31% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 29% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

edel weiss
07-25-2008, 05:27 PM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 31% brainwashworthy, 14% antitolerant, and 24% blindly patriotic

whatever
07-25-2008, 05:35 PM
EXPAT... I'm not very patriotic :dry:

Nocapszy
07-25-2008, 05:37 PM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 0% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 0% blindly patriotic



Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.


I'm einstein.

Antisocial one
07-25-2008, 05:38 PM
ADOLF HITLER
Achtung! You are 85% brainwashworthy, 100% antitolerant, and 95% blindly patriotic

You probably you lack the charisma and intelligence to be Hitler himself, but then again, who knows? You've got a few of the necessary traits, at least. You are crazy, nationalistic, and more proud of your background than you should be.

Right now I am breathing a big sigh of relief that you don't live in Germany in the 1930's, although I guess things couldn't have gone any worse than they did, even with your help. Maybe all this energy that you feel right now could be directed to an end less evil? Are you a Police Officer? Not in my town, I hope.

Sadly, you exceeded expectations on all 3 indicators.

Deutschland: Uber Alles!

I had to do it just to see what would happen.
I am posting this so that the others could see this result.

Now I will do the test for real.

Antisocial one
07-25-2008, 05:45 PM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 0% brainwashworthy, 23% antitolerant, and 5% blindly patriotic



Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

This is the real me.

Hm.... Could it be that am so uninterested in social rituals that I look like a noble person? :reading:

MacGuffin
07-25-2008, 06:26 PM
Once again, the best of the best (INTP) leads the way (copied from INTPc):


Your Score: The Resistance

Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 22% antitolerant, and 42% blindly patriotic

Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

Little Linguist
07-25-2008, 06:33 PM
Pffffft, nahhh, if you do not like what is going on in your country, you need to leave. No point in talking trash about the place where you are born and sabotaging it. If you do not feel comfy, you need to find a place where you do.

And that is what I did. And that is what I tested. So thankfully, I live what I think and believe. :party2:

InaF3157
07-25-2008, 06:36 PM
They should have weighed "blindly patriotic" and "brainwashworthy" more harshly than they did antitolerant, which seems to get a bad rap. Suppose I am intolerant of Nazi incursions into my private life? Why does that make me a swine? In general, tolerance is a neutral value too often given a good rep. Yeah, you're soooo tolerant. but of what?

Antisocial one
07-25-2008, 06:46 PM
They should have weighed "blindly patriotic" and "brainwashworthy" more harshly than they did antitolerant, which seems to get a bad rap. Suppose I am intolerant of Nazi incursions into my private life?



My thinking exactly.

I know I have very low tolerance for crap.

scantilyclad
07-25-2008, 06:46 PM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 32% antitolerant, and 24% blindly patriotic

NoahFence
07-25-2008, 07:00 PM
Your president/prime minister/despot/whatever makes a budget. In it, he or she allocates $4 billion to top-secret defense initiatives. How does this make you feel?

My answer: Safer

Only $4 billion?? Whew!!! They're scaling back!

Oh, and I'm Expatriate, for the record. But this test really lacked the flavor of being faced with the honest-for-real possibility of one of the nastiest countries on the planet just taking over. If I saw Nazi Germany rising, and the sinking of so many ships off American soil, I probably would have fought. Running isn't really always an option.

pure_mercury
07-25-2008, 07:00 PM
EXPAT... I'm not very patriotic :dry:

The patriots in Germany left the country or subverted the Nazis. I am sure you would have done either or both. :hug:

MacGuffin
07-25-2008, 07:01 PM
Pffffft, nahhh, if you do not like what is going on in your country, you need to leave. No point in talking trash about the place where you are born and sabotaging it. If you do not feel comfy, you need to find a place where you do.

And that is what I did. And that is what I tested. So thankfully, I live what I think and believe.
I love my country and want to make it better in the long run, not abandon it.

pure_mercury
07-25-2008, 07:01 PM
I love my country and want to make it better in the long run, not abandon it.

Exactly. "Patriot" does not equal "nationalist."

InaF3157
07-25-2008, 07:02 PM
I love my country and want to make it better in the long run, not abandon it.
Your country ueber alles?

Exactly. "Patriot" does not equal "nationalist."
The test does not brook distinctions like this

MacGuffin
07-25-2008, 07:17 PM
Your country ueber alles?
A nicer, kinder one!

Orangey
07-25-2008, 07:19 PM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 8% brainwashworthy, 14% antitolerant, and 29% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

whatever
07-25-2008, 08:00 PM
The patriots in Germany left the country or subverted the Nazis. I am sure you would have done either or both. :hug:

:huh: I genuinely am not that patriotic!

:laugh:

Countries shift, fight and are boring... land, people and cultures are interesting. If I think my country is being an asshole I'm not going to support it. I like travel anyways. :)

WobblyStilettos
07-25-2008, 08:08 PM
The Everyday German
Achtung! You are 54% brainwashworthy, 32% antitolerant, and 14% blindly patriotic

Had you lived in Germany in the 1930s, you'd have probably just gone along with the flow. Men with guns are surrounding the house next door? The bagel place on the corner's gone? Hmm...whatever.

The data show you're a decent person who's willing to listen to what people of authority tell you. That's what most people are, and in most times and most places, that's ok. But not then; not there.

The sad conclusion: you would've missed your Jewish friends, but you would've done nothing about it. Seriously. But rest assured, you would've forgiven yourself eventually.

Humph. I still reckon I would have done something and refuse to admit otherwise :D

Eric B
07-26-2008, 01:18 AM
The Everyday German
Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 23% antitolerant, and 24% blindly patriotic

Ditto the rest of it for that type.

This is from being "indifferent" on several questions. But the political climate I think of when answering those questions is very different from back then in Germany. I wouln't have been indifferent if I saw something that evil and powerful arising right in front of me.

heart
07-26-2008, 01:31 AM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 15% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 19% blindly patriotic



Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

heart
07-26-2008, 01:34 AM
I love my country and want to make it better in the long run, not abandon it.

Yes, correct. People should admit what's going on then stand and fight evil not run away.

Pffffft, nahhh, if you do not like what is going on in your country, you need to leave. No point in talking trash about the place where you are born and sabotaging it. If you do not feel comfy, you need to find a place where you do.

If all people who saw the truth about the evil around them felt this way, the whole world would go to the dogs. All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing to stop the evil. Passiveness in the face of evil causes far more harm than those who actually do evil.

Didums
07-26-2008, 09:07 AM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 32% antitolerant, and 24% blindly patriotic
If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

Modern Nomad
07-26-2008, 10:29 AM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 32% antitolerant, and 33% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

lol

im korean american too.

im glad germany supports a united korea. ^_^

phoenix13
07-27-2008, 03:39 AM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 31% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 24% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.



Yay! Those are kinda high percentages though... :unsure:

Mort Belfry
07-27-2008, 03:54 AM
The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 23% antitolerant, and 14% blindly patriotic



Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

Grayscale
07-27-2008, 03:54 AM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 8% brainwashworthy, 23% antitolerant, and 19% blindly patriotic




i would have joined the french resistance... those guys were badasses :yes:

Mondo
07-27-2008, 04:23 AM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 15% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 29% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.


People hate the fact I can't be brainwashed but you know what! I wouldn't have been a Nazi- so who cares?

strawberryfields
07-27-2008, 04:58 AM
I don't buy this test at all (even in essence, since I obviously appreciate it's not meant to be serious). Given people know what it's testing for, that's naturally going to influence their answers, and nobody wants to be a Nazi (except from the neo-Nazi who told my Jewish flatmate [who she didn't know was Jewish] 'I think Hitler did the right thing, he had to do something about the Jew's ruining the economy', but let's not get into her..!) Questions like 'Are you influenced by a powerful speaker?' - my, could that be referring to Hitler who believed in 'the magical power of spoken words' ;) Given so many people are getting that they wouldn't have been Nazi's it reminds me of that Milgram experiment - Milgram experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) - where in an experiment a really high percentage of people were prepared to issue a potentially fatal dosage of electrocution to someone because someone in authority told them to. When you ask people if they would do it in those circumstances, pretty much nobody thinks they would.

P.S I'm just pissed cause they said I'd be a Nazi. I was really low on the other two and quite high on being brain-washable, I'm interested in which answers gave that result. I said I was sometimes a push over and belonged to an 'organised religion', perhaps that means Jews should run for cover! I'd actually say I'm pretty resistant to brain-washing - we did a psychology experiment on crowd behaviour and I was the one person in the class who didn't do the same as everyone else. Damn you test, I'm practically Corrie-Ten-Boom!

Spartacuss
07-27-2008, 11:58 AM
I don't buy this test at all (even in essence, since I obviously appreciate it's not meant to be serious). Given people know what it's testing for, that's naturally going to influence their answers, and nobody wants to be a Nazi

Questions like 'Are you influenced by a powerful speaker?' - my, could that be referring to Hitler who believed in 'the magical power of spoken words' ;)


:happy0065:
Seriously. I think if the quiz-takers were primed with discussions about, e.g., Obama instead of Hitler before the test, the responses to that question would be different.

sassafrassquatch
07-27-2008, 12:05 PM
The Expatriate

Achtung! You are 31% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 14% blindly patriotic

entropie
07-27-2008, 07:19 PM
Anyone scored something except "The Expatriate", I am eager to know the "best results" :doh:

Little Linguist
07-27-2008, 07:31 PM
Anyone scored something except "The Expatriate", I am eager to know the "best results" :doh:

Keine Sorge, das habe ich auch bekommen. The best one was "The Resistance," I guess although it is quite an interesting question whether or not sabotaging your native country should be considered the best result. In my opinion, the expatriate is the best result. :huh:

InaF3157
07-27-2008, 07:35 PM
Anyone scored something except "The Expatriate", I am eager to know the "best results" :doh:

Err...

MetalWounds is der Kommandant, Uberfuhrer and I are swine, Peguy might as well have been Schutzstaffel, MacGuffin is Mr. goody-two-shoes, and WobblyStilettos and Eric B are Everyday Germans (almost said Germen hee hee).

What exactly are you missing, again?

entropie
07-27-2008, 07:43 PM
Well then, nothin... I am fine *thumbs up* . See ya around xD *slowly but decisevly walk away to not raise suspicion*

InaF3157
07-27-2008, 07:45 PM
*yanks your outstretched tongue*

strawberryfields
07-27-2008, 07:46 PM
Keine Sorge, das habe ich auch bekommen. The best one was "The Resistance," I guess although it is quite an interesting question whether or not sabotaging your native country should be considered the best result. In my opinion, the expatriate is the best result. :huh:

Are you kidding? You honestly think that resisting the Nazi's could have been considered morally reprehensible if you were German since you're 'sabotaging' your native country? Whoa. I never have and never will understand that degree of patriotism. The idea you should not 'sabotage' your native country when they're murdering millions of innocent people is just a really alien concept to me; if millions of innocent people are being murdered it renders the country you're from an entire irrelevance, I think. First and foremost you're a human and they are too. In fact if anything I think being patriotic and identifying with your country means moreso that you should feel accountable for what they're doing and stand against it if you think they're doing something wrong.

entropie
07-27-2008, 07:59 PM
From our point of View today it is a great thing too see that individualism and trust in values that are necessary for human survival as a race has grown a custom to our minds.

In former days, children were brainwashed during their early education, not by the Nazis but by the values of the Bourgeoisie itself.

Free-Thinking would have needed a very strong mind from the start to sense their is something bigtime rotten in Denmark.

If I think about the fact that there is no logical or emotional way to justify a war and try to say to myself that would have been the reason, you would have not gone to war. I must think about the fact that until the middle of WWII, there were no radios in regular households. So there few news, except the paper and mouth propaganda, and all you knew was that knowledge you gained from that little 5000 people town you lived in and from the propaganda machinery yelling your home is under attack.

The question that then lasts is, why didnt they start thinking about what they were doing after they have conquered half europe. By the time there was no possible way to feel threatened by anyone. Trying to justify now this with traumata through war or small-minded people, is no longer possible.

strawberryfields
07-27-2008, 08:11 PM
entropie - I appreciate that, and I'm not actually convinced we'd necessarily be that much better today; I think we maybe overestimate our capacity to think individually without listening to strong external influences. Hopefully we've learned from the Holocaust and there is a reason it's so widely remembered [although there are still genocides going on all over the world]. However there was a New York Times study where they looked at 21 cases of people threatening to jump off buildings in public, and in ten of them the crowd shouted 'jump' even when the emergency services were trying to get the person down. To me that suggests a really frightening element of the human condition we don't like to speculate on much. Like most people I'd sincerely hope I'd have resisted the Nazi's in Germany, but I can't say with certainty I would have and that wasn't what I was suggesting in my post.

What I was objecting to was Little Linguist suggesting that it might have been wrong for a German to join the resistance since it undermines their country. That's someone with a present day mindset saying that, rather than someone in Germany at the time. For the reasons I gave, I just can't even begin to relate to her viewpoint.