Do you have a racist bias?

[ygolo]

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/takeatest.html

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=43

[Othon]

"Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between White People and Black People."

Relief. I kind of thought that wouldn't be the case.

[anii]

an error page comes up

[ygolo]

an error page comes up

I think they just started requiring registration.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Registration

Sorry.

They have various bias tests.

One of them is for race.

[anii]

I lost the results, but it said I had a strong implicit preference for Democrats and Others.

[arcticangel02]

Ehh. I did all the tests, and every single time I came out as 'slight preference for ____'. Whichever one happened to be associated with 'good' the first time around.

I quite quickly got used to the ones they put together first and then got confused when it swapped around. And my eyes start going wonky after a while.

*shrug*

[IlyaK1986]

Slight preference for European Americans over African Americans. I think that's accurate. I'm more used to being around EAs than AAs, and being around EAs is more comfortable for me than being around AAs, but nothing drastic.

However, when it came to Arab Muslims vs. other people...hoo boy...way prefer others.

[TheLastMohican]

I took the racist test, and came up as having little or no automatic preference between white and black people.
I was surprised to see how many had automatic preferences: 70% had results showing automatic preference for white people, and 12% had automatic preference for black people.

[IlyaK1986]

Because a much larger proportion of AAs live in poverty than EAs so there happens to be far more violent AA crime than EA crime, so they make for easy media pickings.

[ajblaise]

We all have racist biases. Would you rather see a black person or a white person in a alley way in the middle of the night?

[LadyJaye]

We all have racist biases. Would you rather see a black person or a white person in a alley way in the middle of the night?

Depends on where I am. I lived in a ghetto area of town for most of my life, and I was suspicious of white AND black men.

I take people on a case by case basis, and certainly not on race. I've been helped and hurt by all racial types, so I choose not to make a decision based on skin color.

[IlyaK1986]

Depends on where I am. I lived in a ghetto area of town for most of my life, and I was suspicious of white AND black men.

I take people on a case by case basis, and certainly not on race. I've been helped and hurt by all racial types, so I choose not to make a decision based on skin color.

But which one were you MORE suspicious of?

[Jack Flak]

I wouldn't say I do [have a racist bias], but I definitely have a cultural bias. I try to stay away from unknown people who have their waistbands on their thighs and bigass caps on sideways.

[Splittet]

One should note this test unconscious bias. By far most people have an unconscious bias for their race, although the degree differs, and what one does with that impulse differs greatly as well. Some choose to ignore it and think rationally about it, some go with it. The test does not measure your conscious bias (but correlates with), only your unconscious.

My data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American compared to African American, by the way.

[Anja]

For the first eighteen years of my life I lived in a town so thick with descendents of Norwegian immigrants that to be Swedish was to be "different". That's a favorite down-home expression to evade telling the truth.

I never met a Black person until I was twenty-one and living on the West Coast. And I was frightened. I was certain they wouldn't like me because of my skin color. Imagine my surprise when they didn't seem to notice!

It was while my husband served in the military and a military base was an excellent introduction to different races and cultures because, from my observation, the only discrimination I ever noticed there was one of rank. As a Private's wife I had my share of that.

Since then I have met and found friendships in people of many different cultures and races.

But I know well that my deepest comfort is with Northern Europeans. There is nearly an automatic recognition of facial features and mannerisms which feels like home to me. Guess one could say that, in the multi-culti sense I was raised at a disadvantage. And probably as a minority! Heh.

I've spent decades paying attention to the ingrown prejudices I haul around with me. And I wince when I discover that They still lodge there, sometimes unbeknownst to me until something happens, and - ick - there It still is!

I was saddened this winter when I lived with a mixed group of people for several months and saw so many of my old stereotypes being played out daily that I returned home with considerable repair work to do on my sense of acceptance.

I am searching for a sense of direction with this puzzlement on my part and doing some reading of various cultural news publications to gain more information of what others are thinking with intelligence.

[LadyJaye]

But which one were you MORE suspicious of?


As I said, it depends on the place. I'm suspicious of men, regardless of their color. I've had black men and white men do shabby things to me, and I've also had both demographics come to my rescue, too. I'm suspicious of people based on the area I'm in, not on color specifically.

[pure_mercury]

I am concerned about the bias of this test. It said I had a "strong automatic preference for European Americans" when I, in fact, made mistakes that, by my count, conflated African Americans with positives more often than not. I wonder how much it was influenced by declaring myself "slightly conservative" and "White, non-Latino" at the beginning. . . :huh:

[Snail]

I didn't take the race test yet. I found one more interesting that was more directly related to my personal concerns, so I wanted to see how sincere I was about my claims to non-superficiality in this area.

You have completed the Fat - Thin IAT.

Your Result
Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between Fat People and Thin People.
Thank you for your participation. Most respondents find it easier to associate Fat people with Bad and Thin people with Good compared to the reverse.

I'm going to try the race test next. Thanks for the link.

[Snail]

You have completed the African American - European American IAT.

Your Result
Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

I sure hope this doesn't mean anything. I don't feel like I have a preference for either group, although I must admit some empathy with any group that I feel is unfairly oppressed, so that might have come through as a subconscious preference. I'm not quite sure what to think of this.

[pure_mercury]

I sure hope this doesn't mean anything. I don't feel like I have a preference for either group, although I must admit some empathy with any group that I feel is unfairly oppressed, so that might have come through as a subconscious preference. I'm not quite sure what to think of this.

Do me a favor: re-take the test the same way, but say you are a 40-year-old white male with a high school education, and that you are moderately or strongly conservative.

[Splittet]

I wonder how much it was influenced by declaring myself "slightly conservative" and "White, non-Latino" at the beginning. . . :huh:

Didn't influence it at all. They gather that information for statistical purposes, it doesn't influence the test results. For example they would want to see if conservatives are more biased than liberals...

[01011010]

I'm equally cynical and suspicious of everyone. Not for race though. I'm just a good old fashioned misanthrope.

[Blackmail!]

"Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American."

I suppose that's easier to take this test when you live in a country with less biases towards people of african ancestry than the US.
My next-door neighbors are from Mali, and the whole building is very mixed up (europeans, arabs, indians, vietnameses, and africans).

I like metropolis crowds... :hug:

[nolla]

Fascinating...


Black vs White - No preference

Gay vs Straight - Slight straight preference

Young vs Old - Moderate young preference


But come on, how can you NOT associate "agony" with old age?

[Anja]

It's like this, you've got to be wise enough to live long enough to get there, nolla, and then you "get it!" ;)

And, live well I might add, or old age WILL produce agony.

When I hear people spouting words of ageism my secret satisfaction (rationalization, if you prefer) is knowing I've been there, done that.

[Anja]

More, cuz I'm workin' on hitting 100 posts today thus boosting my status hereabouts.)

I remind myself daily to create in mysef the person I want to be tomorrow cuz that's who I'm going to live with tomorrow! Make sense?

It's extremely valuable to start seeing one's elders as useful humans so that when/if you get there you aren't a victim of your own prejudices.

I'll go on:

Once upon a time people weren't so transient. I'll use our midwestern farmers as an example. A man and woman married and built a huge house upon their farm land. They raised many children as a necessity because farm work was hard manual labor.

Eventually their physical powers waned and the farm was deeded over to one of the oldest children, usually a male.

Then they often built a small house for themselves and lived on the land with their children. But they weren't useless. Grandma sat in her rocking chair and sewed quilts and tended the small children or, if she were able, cooked for the next generation's growing brood. She probably also served as the family historian, passing on information that helped provide the younger family members a sense of pride and identification.

Grandpa wandered about and made a general nuisance of himself telling the young men the "proper" way to farm. (See my sexist bias here?)

In that way, of financial necessity, the generations bonded and the elders' precious family values of dilligence and persistence were honored and passed to the next generation.

When Grandpa and grandma moved on, there was the small house for the grandchildren to bring their brides home to.

There was self-sufficiency and interdependency in that way of life which is rapidly disappearing.

Though I didn't belong to a farm family I have realized that there is a beautful simplicity in this way of life that promotes generational mutual respect. (With plenty of aggravation thrown in to spice things up, I suspect.) Well. And learning how to deal with aggravation in relationships, of necessity.

Do I sound like an old phart longing for days goneby yet? I'm in veritable agony! Hee.

[nolla]

It's like this, you've got to be wise enough to live long enough to get there, nolla, and then you "get it!" ;)

:) Isn't it ageism to claim that it is not possible for me to understand old people if I'm not old myself.


In that way, of financial necessity, the generations bonded and the elders' precious family values of dilligence and persistence were honored and passed to the next generation.

I have realized that there is a beautful simplicity in this way of life that promotes generational mutual respect. (With plenty of aggravation thrown in to spice things up, I suspect.) Well. And learning how to deal with aggravation in relationships, of necessity.

Yes, I've thought about this. The old folks are devalued now and it leads to all kinds of trouble. Think about the advantage of grandmother taking care of the little ones. She has been a parent before, so she wont make so many mistakes anymore. The society is selling out life experience and buying retirement homes.

But, if we talk about the test, I think there should have been words like "wise" or "experienced" to balance out the "agony", "pain" and so on.

[Thursday]

We all have racist biases. (C)ould you see a black person or a white person in a alley way in the middle of the night?

Fixed. :hi:

[The_Liquid_Laser]

This is what I got on several of the tests. Make of it what you will.


Your data suggest a moderate association of Male with Career and Female with Family compared to Female with Career and Male with Family.

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Old compared to Young.

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between Judaism and Other Religions.

Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for Bill Clinton compared to George W. Bush.

[Anja]

:) Isn't it ageism to claim that it is not possible for me to understand old people if I'm not old myself.

Yup. :yes: Another advantage of getting old! You can act like you know everything.



Yes, I've thought about this. The old folks are devalued now and it leads to all kinds of trouble. Think about the advantage of grandmother taking care of the little ones. She has been a parent before, so she wont make so many mistakes anymore. The society is selling out life experience and buying retirement homes.

You sound like a wise young person. When elders feel useless they often lose their drive for life and just hang around waiting to die. (Then they're a real pain in the pocket.)

But, if we talk about the test, I think there should have been words like "wise" or "experienced" to balance out the "agony", "pain" and so on.

Ach. Where I'm at a disadvantage because I didn't see the test. But given what you say, perhaps the wording itself is ageist? Probably written by someone YOUNG. Heh.

A Finn? I'm a tad Saami.

[Usehername]

I probably have a subconscious racist bias--99% of people that I interact with/see are white Canadian Euro descendants.

Oou, I have one: At my university, we have a disproportionate amount of Asians relative to the city's population. Asians study. A lot.

[Anja]

That's the thing about stereotypes. . .

[nolla]

Ach. Where I'm at a disadvantage because I didn't see the test. But given what you say, perhaps the wording itself is ageist? Probably written by someone YOUNG. Heh.

A Finn? I'm a tad Saami.

It's on this page--> https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/selectatest.html

Saami on which country? (I'm from so south, I never even seen any Saami folks, only from tv-comedies... ;) )

[Anja]

Saami from Northern Finland. The Vikings, you know. . .

I'm still learning about them but it sounds like on your Finnish TV it might be equivalent to the "Beverly Hillbillies!"

I've seen old photos of them and they are very handsome people.

Thanks for the URL. I didn't take the test.

[nolla]

Saami from Northern Finland. The Vikings, you know. . .

I'm still learning about them but it sounds like on your Finnish TV it might be equivalent to the "Beverly Hillbillies!"

I've seen old photos of them and they are very handsome people.


I think vikings were mostly Norwegian...

The Saami have been stereotyped as drunk folk who sit in their tents and sing weird traditional songs :) This comes from a popular comedy show in the early nineties.

Saami girls are beautiful :yes:

[Anja]

Yes, my peeps were Vikings. But I have found out that they did a little "shopping" in northern Finland. They did a little "shopping" most all over, I think. Funny thing since they usually brought their wives with them. (Somebody had to serve the lutefisk. . .)

We've noticed that many in our family have Asian eyes.

*Goin' off in her leather leggings with her bottle of aqavit to croon in the Coleman.*

[Lateralus]

I wouldn't say I do [have a racist bias], but I definitely have a cultural bias. I try to stay away from unknown people who have their waistbands on their thighs and bigass caps on sideways.
Yep, my initial reaction to someone is governed far more by their dress than their skin color. I have a pretty strong cultural bias. It's annoying that some people, in their zeal to 'rid the world of racism', can't tell the difference.

[EJCC]

*sings* Everyone's a little bit racist...

[Uytuun]

Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

Uh, white people.

We don't have that many black people over here, though, so considering the lack of familiarity, it's slightly weird. Or maybe I'm yearning for something new.

[Anja]

It is difficult to learn about other cultural types without personal access to many. College will provide some experience but not the same type as living next door.