View Full Version : The Official ISTJ Fanclub Thread
RansomedbyFire
09-16-2007, 04:57 AM
Here is a place where the rest of you can compliment us and build are egos. Fellow ISTJs are welcome to join the fun too!! :)
Usehername
09-16-2007, 05:25 AM
Okay. I will contribute, I promise. But I will give it a few days to think on it. I don't know many ISTJs and thus don't want to attribute specific personal characteristics to a wide group.
ygolo
09-16-2007, 05:59 AM
Excellent memory and observation skills.
Organized and reliable.
Hard-working.
Traditionalist without being a slave to tradition (in other words an independently minded traditionalist).
:yes:
That is the hardest assignment I have ever been given. ISTJs are among the most annoying type I know; the only use I have found for ISTJs is to train and send them to the code mines, because they're reliable minions. I suppose they also make reliable, but highly annoying, system administrators. They also make great accountants that I always want to strangle after having the misfortune of meeting them.
There were plenty of them in my major - the ones that float between being being code grinders/monkeys and accountants. Most of the people that couldn't make it (that I knew about) changed majors and became accountants.
runvardh
09-16-2007, 06:16 AM
My friend rocks! Easy to drag outside, lots of fun to spar with, and I like the mind games he comes up with to play on drunken late night park wanderers. :devil:
Helfeather
09-16-2007, 06:33 AM
ISTJ's are so hardworking and reliable, you can always count on them on critical stages to get things done. Excellent organization, memory, clear judgment and usually accepting the rule of authority. Trustworthy and loyal, their word is everything.
They're like an administrator's dream pawns. I love having ISTJs on my team because I like people who follow orders when I give them direct commands instead of questioning me.
The_Liquid_Laser
09-16-2007, 07:01 AM
ISTJ's are very loyal and dependable.
girlnamedbless
09-16-2007, 07:34 AM
My best friend is ISTJ and she's hilarious beyond reason.. and a very loyal friend.
Mempy
09-16-2007, 07:43 AM
They seem to know where everything goes and keep it there. "A place for everything and everything in its place."
Never disorganized. Tidy, clean, neat, perfectly-kept household.
They have an understanding side. The other day my ISTJ grandma was nice to me. We don't have the best history together so this was a special event. I came home from practicing my driving, and I was having the worst day. I knew I hadn't done well, and I was feeling so bad and so inadequate. She was the only one who was understanding. She said the best thing anybody could have said to me at that moment. It was literally the BEST thing anybody could have said to me. She said, "You just have to practice and build your confidence up," and she said it like she really understood what I was feeling. That's the way I always want to remember her.
They're witty. My ISTJ grandma gets really cutesie all the time, but she actually hates it when anyone else gets cutesie.
I may think of more later.
Sahara
09-16-2007, 08:51 AM
The females seem ok. :D (so far) lol you will have to excuse my bias on this one.:blush:
Lookin4theBestNU
09-16-2007, 02:35 PM
ISTJs are awesome (most of the time :))! Two of my closest relationships are with them. Both of them have very literal realistic points of view that I often miss. They both have a tendency to be pessimistic which makes it good for me to be around them. I get to share the positive spin on most situations and in turn we teach one another. I can talk to ISTJs for hours. OTOH they are one of the fews types where if there is silence it's comfortable to me. I adore their senses of humor which could possibly be an acquired taste. I notice many people do not know that either of them can be outrageously funny. I notice that it's a dark kind of humor and something I would never think of. ISTJs once you make it into their 'inner circle' will literally give you anything that you need if they can. I can tell ISTJs as a general rule my inner most feelings and they will keep it to themselves. Trust has to be earned with them they do not give it freely which I respect. I respect their intelligence, quiet nature and hard work too.
*How's that for kissing up:D?*
Jennifer
09-16-2007, 03:23 PM
ISTJs can be very thorough and detailed in situations that I just do not want to expend all of the energy to do so.
When they build something, I know all the pieces will fit together and they will have all the materials at hand, and they will know the total and individual cost of everything, and they will have a schematic drawn out, and know the exact measurement of all the pieces, and...
... well, for things that matter, I can rest assured that if an ISTJ puts together a space shuttle or a car or an elevator or a house, it's going to fit together and everything will work as it is supposed to work according to plan.
[The only flaw usually for the ISTJ is not designing well enough in the sense of anticipating possibilities that might arise; but they will cover all the practical bases.]
ISTJs are loyal and faithful and firmly committed. They are very trustworthy, when they make a promise.
They also can handle intellectual criticism. If the criticism is impersonal and not buttressed by lots of statements that Feeler types often need to "soften things," they can swallow it easily and move on and even dish it right back.
They also give criticism. The mature/thoughtful ones can give a very impersonal, honest appraisal of something. And as long as the something is not a "person," the feedback is very exact and practical and realistic and truthful.
And... do I need to say that, if I need to balance my checkbook, I'd rather let an ISTJ do it? ;)
Lateralus
09-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Pass!
RansomedbyFire
09-16-2007, 07:36 PM
lol. I can't believe so many of you guys fell for it. I couldn't help it. I guess I was feeling mischevious yesterday and just wanted to play like I was full of myself. lol. And also, I thought it was funny 'cause I realize what a challenge it is. lol.
Lookin4theBestNU
09-16-2007, 07:38 PM
That's it...I am out of your fan club.
Are ISTJs the ones that sometimes respond to what you are saying with silence and a tight little smile that you have no earthly idea how to interpret but you have a funny feeling you might not want to know?
Usehername
09-16-2007, 07:50 PM
ISTJs intrigue me b/c they don't share a lot of personal things, which makes me want to know all the more. They're generally exceptionally intelligent, and very very competent, which I superbly respect.
I also like how they are really honest when people ask for their opinions. They aren't out to make friends as much as they are to develop and improve things. All the ISTJs I've met are really caring and show this through their actions to work hard for others.
I wish ISTJs would give me more secrets on how to seduce them (in a very non-romantic way). Because pretty much any type but ISTJs can I hook with my quirky endearingness, and I can tell ISTJs really like me, but... how do I hook them in so they will share with me?! I love their observations of others around them. They notice things others don't. I want more, and they do share with me, but not nearly as much as I want. I want to see how they see the world and they don't share their observations as much as I want them to. :cry:
That is so hard, to get an ISTJ to share. I have not yet figured that out. But I'm also not super-close to any. I've also found that the males tell me more than the females! How weird is that?!
How could you do so with an old friend over the internet? Slow, steady, keep secrets and don't blab information... ideas?
RansomedbyFire
09-16-2007, 07:57 PM
Are ISTJs the ones that sometimes respond to what you are saying with silence and a tight little smile that you have no earthly idea how to interpret but you have a funny feeling you might not want to know?
Eh?
RansomedbyFire
09-16-2007, 08:01 PM
I want to see how they see the world and they don't share their observations as much as I want them to. :cry:
So... what exactly do you wanna know?
Usehername
09-16-2007, 08:07 PM
So... what exactly do you wanna know?
Well, I'll share.
I have this one specific ISTJ in mind. I really like her. She lives impossibly far, so contact is through the internet. I know she likes me, but she has "not let me into her inner circle".
I really like the little bits she would share, and she fascinated me when we lived in the same city. But we don't any more, and I don't know how to get her to share when she lives so far.
Specifically, I want her observations of her new environment. Her info tends to come from her husband through their blog. She doesn't volunteer much.
I want to know how to make her comfortable so she'll share with me. (I know she likes me, I'm not annoying. I just am not in her inner circle.) She's got the craziest observations and ideas and she's really smart and I want information that she's not sharing :puppy_dog_eyes:
(She lives on the other side of the world in a way different culture and I want to know stuff that matters about it!)
So how would I do this through the internet?
RansomedbyFire
09-16-2007, 08:10 PM
Hmm... well, I don't know if this will help at all, or if it's even an ISTJ thing; but, alot of times, the main reason I don't share my thoughts is because I fear what people will think of them. I'm not sure if that's her problem or not. *shrugs*
Usehername
09-16-2007, 08:19 PM
Hmm... well, I don't know if this will help at all, or if it's even an ISTJ thing; but, alot of times, the main reason I don't share my thoughts is because I fear what people will think of them. I'm not sure if that's her problem or not. *shrugs*
That fact intrigues me. (seriously. lol)
As in, you're not sure about how they'll perceive you as a person after sharing that? or you're worried that it will affect their interaction with you? or you're insecure around some types?
plz expand. :yes:
RansomedbyFire
09-16-2007, 08:22 PM
That fact intrigues me. (seriously. lol)
As in, you're not sure about how they'll perceive you as a person after sharing that? or you're worried that it will affect their interaction with you? or you're insecure around some types?
plz expand. :yes:
Well, basically, you know how ISTJs get slightly picked on for talking about things that no one else finds interesting (or perhaps relates to)? Yeah, I guess you might could call it insecurity in my case. But, lilke I said, I don't know how much this pertains to other ISTJs.
Usehername
09-16-2007, 08:27 PM
Well, basically, you know how ISTJs get slightly picked on for talking about things that no one else finds interesting (or perhaps relates to)? Yeah, I guess you might could call it insecurity in my case. But, lilke I said, I don't know how much this pertains to other ISTJs.
So it's that you don't want to bore others?
I think ISTJs are fascinating (they're better one on one, though). Just find an INTJ :D
proteanmix
09-16-2007, 08:36 PM
I think the type of people that find other people boring are the ones that sit around waiting for others to entertain them as if the sun rises and sets on their ass.
I only know one ISTJ well but the others I kinda know aren't bad. A little straitlaced and you have to do some cajoling to get them to try stuff they're unaccustomed to, but good, solid, reliable, and often underappreciated people.
Recoleta
09-16-2007, 10:22 PM
Are ISTJs the ones that sometimes respond to what you are saying with silence and a tight little smile that you have no earthly idea how to interpret but you have a funny feeling you might not want to know?
Oh goodness...YES! I know I do that. It usually occurs when I am suffering through "small talk" conversations or if someone is talking my ear off about a topic that I either know nothing about or don't really care about. It's my way of trying to be polite on the outside (but on the inside I have an entire internal dialogue going on...and I'm kinda smiling at my own thoughts). :rolli: And no, you probably don't want to know what we're thinking. Don't take it personally though, it's just our (well, mine at least) way of amusement.
Mempy
09-16-2007, 10:36 PM
Shit, I fell for it! :doh:
That's ok. I still *blows nose* like ISTJs. :cry:
Haha, jk. I encourage you to share your thoughts, Ransom.
Hmm... well, I don't know if this will help at all, or if it's even an ISTJ thing; but, alot of times, the main reason I don't share my thoughts is because I fear what people will think of them. I'm not sure if that's her problem or not. *shrugs*
I'm a lot like that, myself. It's something I try all the time not to do. Life is so much more liberating when you can just put yourself out there without worrying about what other people think of you. Who needs people's positive opinions? Heck no.
:smile:
runvardh
09-16-2007, 11:25 PM
Well, basically, you know how ISTJs get slightly picked on for talking about things that no one else finds interesting (or perhaps relates to)? Yeah, I guess you might could call it insecurity in my case. But, lilke I said, I don't know how much this pertains to other ISTJs.
This is one of the biggest reasons my friend and I started hanging out; his awesomeness was partially derived form his weirdness.
Natrushka
09-17-2007, 04:51 PM
Here is a place where the rest of you can compliment us and build are egos. Fellow ISTJs are welcome to join the fun too!! :)
I like you.
Natrushka
09-17-2007, 04:54 PM
Well, basically, you know how ISTJs get slightly picked on for talking about things that no one else finds interesting (or perhaps relates to)?
My ISTJ calls himself "Cliff Claven". He doesn't have a problem sharing his tidbits either. (oohhh that sounds naughty)
ISTJ are so cool because I am an ISTJ.
Enough said.
Thank you, come again.
Xander
09-19-2007, 12:56 PM
Is Magnús Magnússon an official member?
Jennifer
09-19-2007, 02:02 PM
Thank you, come again.
It's too bad the same can't be said about you.
(You are the weakest link -- goodbye!) :D
My ISTJ calls himself "Cliff Claven".
Ha, that's about right. (I haven't thought much about Cheers for a long time.)
He doesn't have a problem sharing his tidbits either. (oohhh that sounds naughty)
At least we know what you've been up to for the last ten days or so!
Xander
09-19-2007, 02:24 PM
On a more on topic note..
I like ISTJs. I have a friend who's about 10 years my senior (and we never mention that honest :devil:
Anyhow I've learned that a nice peaceful ISTJ who's capable of laughing at themselves is a good laugh. Especially when you perfect the technique of saying "shh" just as they're about to answer yet another question not directed at them :)
It does seem though that whilst amongst a bunch of intuitives he feels lost and doubts his own intellect. Very difficult to get him to stop that habit but there again he rarely realises where his strengths lie. Something to do with TJs and that particular trait.
Usehername
09-19-2007, 11:37 PM
It's too bad the same can't be said about you.
(You are the weakest link -- goodbye!) :D
Ha, that's about right. (I haven't thought much about Cheers for a long time.)
At least we know what you've been up to for the last ten days or so!
heeehheheheh
what constitutes banning, btw? can their IP still access the site to read it and he just can't post? can he theoretically make a new username and start fresh until the rest of us figure it out?
GirlAmerica
09-20-2007, 07:45 PM
I have found as an INTJ, that the ISTJ is one of the very few people who can relate to much of me as an individual as a whole.
I feel very ying/yang with ISTJ's....they complete me.
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 03:34 AM
It's too bad the same can't be said about you.
(You are the weakest link -- goodbye!) :D
I don't get it, his most recent posts weren't that offensive, so why did he get banned? He was proof that ISTJs were a lot of fun!
I don't get it, his most recent posts weren't that offensive, so why did he get banned? He was proof that ISTJs were a lot of fun!
http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/official-decrees/3-banned-damned.html#post50732
RansomedbyFire
09-21-2007, 03:45 AM
He was proof that ISTJs were a lot of fun!
Oy! :)
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 03:55 AM
I just would love to know which of his posts were given infractions...I'm nosy that way...
Anyway, I think a good example of an ISTJ is Simon Pegg's character in Hot Fuzz.
I just would love to know which of his posts were given infractions...I'm nosy that way...
You've made a couple of interesting assumptions there- 1) that you would necessarily see a post or thread that earned the poster an infraction, since they sometimes get deleted, and 2) that it's all about posts and threads anyway.
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 04:21 AM
You've made a couple of interesting assumptions there- 1) that you would necessarily see a post or thread that earned the poster an infraction, since they sometimes get deleted, and 2) that it's all about posts and threads anyway.
Well, I'll give you assumption Number 1, but I'm having trouble following assumption Number 2.
(I can't say I remember offensive signatures or avatars or things like that.)
Well, I'll give you assumption Number 1, but I'm having trouble following assumption Number 2.
Have you ever PMed anyone? (Not to say that's what happened in this instance, in fact it wasn't, but it's an example of a non-post non-thread thing that could get a person banned.)
Sona is a prime example of an ISTJ. They're oh-so-lovable.
RansomedbyFire
09-21-2007, 05:26 AM
Sona is a prime example of an ISTJ. They're oh-so-lovable.
>_o Was that... sarcasm?
Xander
09-21-2007, 12:42 PM
This is a kind of positive thing about the ISTJ I know.
He's always someone who can cheer me up without even saying a word. Something about managing to turn up to a pub wearing t-shirts with holes ALL over and his knackered out old fashioned slippers, me looking at him quizzically and him replying "What?" like it's the normal thing to do and everyone else is odd.
Absolute gold!
Rebellion is doubly rebellious when the person doesn't even recognise that there is a rule to rebel against!!
Sona is a prime example of an ISTJ. They're oh-so-lovable.
I actually think Sona was some kind of SP. Too much button-pushing, not enough rule-following. ;)
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 02:41 PM
I actually think Sona was some kind of SP. Too much button-pushing, not enough rule-following. ;)
I was thinking some sort of NT.
Xander
09-21-2007, 02:55 PM
I was thinking some sort of NT.
:shock: :laugh:
No but seriously.
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 03:07 PM
:shock: :laugh:
No but seriously.
Why not?
Xander
09-21-2007, 03:14 PM
Why not?
The total lack of rational analysis and inability to spot patterns kinda hinted to me :)
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 03:37 PM
I assume that rational analysis is something that an ISTJ would be good at.
I assume that rational analysis is something that an ISTJ would be good at.
That would be one reason I don't think he is one.
I actually think Sona was some kind of SP. Too much button-pushing, not enough rule-following. ;)
You say that because it appeared to be button-pushing to you, while I saw consistency. Just because the consistency offended your moral code doesn't mean it offended his. He wasn't pushing your buttons, he was just being what he is.
You say that because it appeared to be button-pushing to you, while I saw consistency. Just because the consistency offended your moral code doesn't mean it offended his. He wasn't pushing your buttons, he was just being what he is.
You say this because you didn't see everything that went on.
Xander
09-21-2007, 03:47 PM
I assume that rational analysis is something that an ISTJ would be good at.
Depends upon what you see as rational really :)
The ISTJ I know tends to skip implications and ripple effects in his reasoning and hence his analysis is often very skewed towards what he wanted it to turn out like to begin with. I'm presuming that this is common, I could be wrong though.
I read Sona as an SP too. Something about all that flitting about from one thing to the next and the ability to almost twist himself double in his reasoning. No pattern to his steps, no rhythm. You know?
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 03:50 PM
I saw in Sona a strong J preference; characteristically holding rigid and dogmatic viewpoints. He also exhibited contradictory logic and independent viewpoints, which could've suggested N. Sensors, and especially Sensing Thinkers, are better at not contradicting themselves, because they are more aware of such things.
Of course, there are cultural differences that must be taken into consideration here.
I saw in Sona a strong J preference; characteristically holding rigid and dogmatic viewpoints. He also exhibited contradictory logic and independent viewpoints, which could've suggested N. Sensors are better at not contradicting themselves, because they are more aware of such things.
Of course, there are cultural differences that must be taken into consideration here.
I saw in Sona a similar reaction to a strict religious upbringing that I've seen in other SPs. In his mind he sort of wants to stick to it, but he can't quite articulate why, and his behavior doesn't match his professed devotion. It's an attachment to cultural trappings (by habit for STPs, affection for SFPs) without the accompanying adherence. He professed rigid and dogmatic viewpoints but he didn't seem to follow through with them in reality.
Uberfuhrer
09-21-2007, 04:01 PM
I saw in Sona a similar reaction to a strict religious upbringing that I've seen in other SPs. In his mind he sort of wants to stick to it, but he can't quite articulate why, and his behavior doesn't match his professed devotion. It's an attachment to cultural trappings (by habit for STPs, affection for SFPs) without the accompanying adherence. He professed rigid and dogmatic viewpoints but he didn't seem to follow through with them in reality.
Yeah, that's true. Judging by his posts, he seemed to also be a thrill seeker.
Natrushka
09-21-2007, 04:08 PM
He's gone and you're still talking about him. I bet he's giggling somewhere.
Xander
09-21-2007, 04:11 PM
I saw in Sona a strong J preference; characteristically holding rigid and dogmatic viewpoints. He also exhibited contradictory logic and independent viewpoints, which could've suggested N. Sensors, and especially Sensing Thinkers, are better at not contradicting themselves, because they are more aware of such things.
Of course, there are cultural differences that must be taken into consideration here.
Well the ISTJ I know ran as DM for a while once and was the most capricious of all. More so than the INTJ for certain and sometimes even more so than the ISFJ we have running now and she can really have some vindictive days!!!
Why would SJs be more consistent than NJs? Surely it's just a matter of what they are consistent to? One to the specifics and the other to the pattern.
meanlittlechimp
09-24-2007, 10:52 PM
I'm a big fan of them, as long as they aren't my boss or have any power over me. I don't tend to do so well with their management style in most cases.
Normally very logical but always loyal and trustworthy. Qualities that many of the other types pride themselves in, but not near to the extent of the ISTJ and they don't need any praise of recognition for it either.
A lot of the other types, even whey they are "generous" are being manipulative or phony or want something in return.
boogawooga999
09-28-2007, 07:34 AM
Why is the SJ section so empty? :(
RansomedbyFire
09-28-2007, 07:38 AM
Because most of our kind are apparently too good for this forum. I've also heard that alot of ISTJs shun MBTI.
boogawooga999
09-28-2007, 07:41 AM
I've been reading this stuff for a while now because it just intrigues me. It makes sense.
GirlAmerica
09-28-2007, 06:35 PM
ISTJ's are the ONLY type I have encountered that are more private and less sharing than INTJ's......tough nut to crack!!!:shock:
substitute
09-29-2007, 12:46 PM
My best friend is ISTJ, but he's sorta.... gone wrong. I want to discuss that actually, cos I know two ISTJ's that have both 'gone wrong' in a similar way and I don't get it.
Mendacity
10-01-2007, 05:57 PM
My best friend is also an ISTJ and because of him I have an enormous amount of respect for the type. My ISTJ is one of the few people I know who I'm not related to who loves to argue stupid points we may not even believe in with me.
But he always backs his argument up with facts or at least some pretty good speculation. He's always respectful to people who don't necessarily share his beliefs and is one of the sweetest and most intelligent people I've had the honor to know.
He can have trouble with hypothetical questions and arguments (he hates them) and can be frustratingly stubborn.
I think my ISTJ is one of the few people who actually understands me and often has to explain my weirdness to others and suggest how best to deal with me.
He's also hilarious because he's pretty serious for much of the time, and then surprises people with his wit and silliness.
Together, we are an unstoppable team of sarcasm, annoying argumentativeness and rationality to the point of ridiculousness. :D
Natrushka
10-01-2007, 06:47 PM
I think my ISTJ is one of the few people who actually understands me and often has to explain my weirdness to others and suggest how best to deal with me.
He's also hilarious because he's pretty serious for much of the time, and then surprises people with his wit and silliness.
Together, we are an unstoppable team of sarcasm, annoying argumentativeness and rationality to the point of ridiculousness. :D
:yes:
My ISTJ often has to explain my behaviour to his family and together we comiserate about them. He's very sarcastic and is often not understood by others as well. On the whole we get along very well.
GirlAmerica
10-01-2007, 07:10 PM
ISTJ is the only type of man that I can truly envision myself happy with.
I have one in my life...and it is like finally understanding myself through him.
Mendacity
10-01-2007, 08:25 PM
It seems like the biggest fans of ISTJs are INTJs. I doubt that this will increase the popularity of ISTJs among people of other types. :blush:
Jennifer
10-01-2007, 08:39 PM
I like having ISTJs on my project team because they can be trusted to be detailed and exact in their work. They also are good planners for catastrophe -- they can tell everything that might go eventually wrong with a plan, and they hate leaving things to chance.
But as far as interpersonals go, I have trouble spending prolonged periods of time with them because they are just very straight-forward and not as prone to play, and I try to avoid controversial topics. The less J an ISTJ has, the more I enjoy their company.
INTJMom
10-03-2007, 01:23 AM
I have an ISTJ brother in law.
He's a pharmacist.
He's dependable, generous, good with his kids, likes to cook fancier dishes, helps clean house, likes antiques, likes to watch sports, quiet.
I have an ISTJ mother.
She's generous, hard-working, loves antiques, LOVES old books, reads encyclopedias recreationally, smartest woman I know.
She's really excellent with her hands. When she learned how to quilt, she liked to tell people how she learned so much faster than anyone else in her class, and how her work was so much better than everyone else's. She likes her work to be excellent quality.
ygolo
10-03-2007, 03:09 AM
Despite how INTPs are characterized.
I think, ISTJ is the most common type of engineering PHD.
In other words, they are also common among the world's eggheads, and that is a positive in my opinion.
GirlAmerica
10-03-2007, 03:39 PM
It seems like the biggest fans of ISTJs are INTJs. I doubt that this will increase the popularity of ISTJs among people of other types. :blush:
Most notibly, the INTJ women.......:devil:
MacGuffin
10-04-2007, 10:35 PM
It seems like the biggest fans of ISTJs are INTJs.
They are pretty similar.
Helfeather
10-06-2007, 10:10 AM
They are pretty similar.
INTJ come up w/ the ideas; ISTJs support carry it out w/o questioning.
You can always trust a ISTJ to not 'go against' the plan and even when they do, they always straight out tell you why they think it is wrong instead of going behind your back.
Word of advice; most important things to an ISTJ are peace, security, and void of interference with their personal lives. If you attempt to tamper w/ any of the listed, they will back stab you.
GirlAmerica
10-06-2007, 01:00 PM
ISTJ's also seem to be the harder nut to crack when it comes to sharing personal feelings etc.
I may avoid and have no desire to share with anyone except whom I choose however if I am close to someone I can open up and share...ISTJ's, even if close to someone seem to share far less.
They are pretty similar.
Hardly.
[Edited by proteanmix]
MacGuffin
10-09-2007, 05:09 PM
Hardly.
I find many similarities in the day to day operations of ISTJs and INTJs. There are some fundamental differences of course.
They are similar in the way ISTPs and INTPs can be hard to distinguish initially.
N/S is the percieving function, so it can be hard to tell sometimes.
Jennifer
10-09-2007, 05:15 PM
N/S is the percieving function, so it can be hard to tell sometimes.
Usually I just engage them in conversation and/or observe how they approach a topic.
ISTJs usually veer towards topics they can get their hands on (i.e., are tangible) or direct the conversation towards the things that they can see and deal with, whereas if you take the conversation into abstractions, the INTJs are not only with you but take the conversation another step forward.
ISTx people are funny about abstractions; they'll take things a bit in that direction but soon enough will say, "What's the point of all this? What a waste of time. Let's get back to dealing with reality."
I'm one. What else need be said? :party2:
:D
GirlAmerica
10-25-2007, 09:33 PM
oh yeah, they are as equally charmingly cocky as my own kind....
:)
substitute
10-26-2007, 01:23 AM
wtf? 83 replies? y'all don't need any more praising! Get over to the poor ol' ISTP's and big them up a bit, dammit!
Actually, I did mention there that my other best buddy is an ISTJ. You know what I like about ISTJs? You always, ALWAYS know where you stand with them. There is no pretence, no fakery, no jiggery-pokery mind games. Just totally straight up, refreshingly consistent chaps (and chapesses, no doubt, though I've never met a female one). Rock on, my friends.
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