Hm, but I wouldn't say that it's purely for the sake of winning, when I feel the need to win - it's because I genuinely believe in what I'm arguing and feel totally sure that if the other person just climbs the stairs (from my earlier post, the Lego staircase lol) then they'll SEE when they get to the top, something that I simply can't explain to them in the sorta ISTJ styleee stages kinda presentation style. It's not because I'm being superficial - it's because I'm
not superficial and have thought about it a great deal and know what I'm talking about and believe in it so strongly, that it's so important to me that the other person sees it. The winning isn't what's important to me - it's what I hope to be the
result of winning: their enlightenment.
It's not superficiality, but arrogance I guess, that makes me so sure that when they do see it, they'll have no choice but to agree
(edit - in my defence, they usually do

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