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Originally Posted by Blackwater
Oh Gabe 
In Vietnam they have this custom that if a person can present his case calmly then anybody who cannot respond to that case in the same calm manner has shamed himself. Sometimes, I really wish that this was the case in the West as well. If it was, then I wouldn't need to take the time to bitch-slap in into your place.
You're wrong there. What I wrote was that "I know quite a few ENFPs IRL and almost all of them have this tendency" . But of course the details of a particular post do have a tendency to blur out if your approach to reading is a little... superficial 
See the funny thing about psychology is that there's rarely any final truth. As such, there's nothing I can say to make your definitively believe me. But it's funny how you appear to be completely unmoved by the other posters who seem to know exactly what I am talking about. If it's merely my judgment that's off, then why are half the posters in this thread offering similar stories?
"Naturally, this attitude [Ne] holds great dangers, for all to easily, the intuitive may fritter away his life on things and people, spreading about him an abundance of life which others life and not he himself. If only he could stay put, he would reap the fruits of his labour; but always he must be running after a new possiblity, quitting his newly planted fields while other gather in the harvest. In the end, he goes away empty." Jung: Psychological Types - Revised by F.C. Hull, Princeton Press - p. 369
It came from taking in data and interpreting it. Believe it or not, people sometimes do that when they're not being superficial. 
Also, your immature ad hominem attacks seem to pretty much confirm what Substitute said:
So consider yourself bitch-slapped by Blackwater, your new bitch-master  |
So, in your world, if I get mad at you again I'm somehow already wrong or something. Well, fuck that shit.
Anyway, honestly, the 'behaviors' that you've described about SUPPOSED ENFPs don't neccisarily match the Jung quote.
I also think the way you try to 'reverse diagnose' this stuff is extremely problematic. Jung didn't end that passage with 'the converse is also true', and as it so happens, the converse is NOT true. I mean, that's why it never bothers me that Von franz talks about the inferior function and one's problems in life.
I still don't know what you think the injustice is here about talking about ENTPs vs. ENFPs. And it's based on some comments on this thread? Please. D'you really think that people are easier on ENFPs or something?
Now, people 'agreeing with you' means nothing. I just saw Jung 'agree' with you. All I see is a bandwagon.
As for what substitude said, I happen to think despite what your preferences are (or mine), my response was perfectly logical, if also angry, and instead of apreciating that you decided to split hairs.